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Re: Saban and Lionsgate announce a new Power Rangers movie

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:49 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:1) Strictly speaking, the Mastodon/Mammoth and Sabertooth Tiger (not a true tiger) came 60 to 62 million years after the Dinosaurs went extinct. At the very least, all 5 genus appeared in North America in some form.
For this point, we can probably handwave it with the "fictional world that looks like real life in the present but had a different history" excuse that a LOT of fiction tends to use. ;)
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Re: Saban and Lionsgate announce a new Power Rangers movie

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:11 pm

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Just got back from seeing it.

Okay, this is not the movie I wanted, but I was surprised by how much I found myself liking it. It is not perfect. Has a number of issues, minor and major, when you think about it. But overall, I think what surprised me the most about it, which also made me appreciate it even more, it how it isn't a "dumb" movie. This film doesn't treat its audience like we're stupid. It does ask us to suspend our disbelief in a lot of places, but never outright insults our intelligence.

Recreating Angel Grove as a smaller town instead of a big city may at first sound iffy since that would prevent us from seeing any giant monster/giant robot skyscraper destruction, but honestly, I ultimate felt that that was more beneficial to the movie in the end, as having smaller-sized buildings prevented the collateral damage from seeming as obnoxious and distracting as it was in such films as DOTM or Man of Steel. And regardless of the lack of skyscrapers, the sheer enormity of both Goldar and the Megazord was still made very clear and very impressive in this movie. Though, while I agree with those who wished that we could have seen more of the Megazord transformation in clear view, I did rather like the surprise reveal approach that they went with instead, as it made for a fun "Oh slag" reaction from everyone. Maybe in a sequel we'll get a more traditional onscreen combination sequence.

One of my biggest fears going into this movie was how much emphasis it would put on the teenage angst of the rangers. The last thing I wanted for this movie was for it to become a depressing emo fest devoid of any joy or levity in the rangers' civilian lives. And at first, it started to seem like it might go in that direction, what with the detention scene and those girls insulting Kimberly in the girls' restroom. What's more is that Billy's autism at first seemed to be played so hamfisted and artificial that it began to frustrate me seeing his condition played the way it was, being a diagnosed person myself.

However, once the film began to really explore the rangers on a more personal level, having them share their inner demons with each other, that when the film finally formed a more personal connection between the characters and the audience. I just didn't like how long it took for the film to do so. And yet, I say that but, honestly, that introversion that took so long for the film to break the ice between the characters and the audience is very realistic. A lot of teenagers in real life can be and are closed off individuals who take a while to open up and let others into their lives, much like how these rangers took forever to let us, the audience, into their own lives. That's not only a touch more believable portrayal of teens than any season of the show has done, it's also a touch more deeper than what the show has done. These characters have skeletons in their closet that the each must overcome, but which served to enhance their roles in the story, the characterizations of their individual personalities, and their developmental growth throughout the film.

What's more is that this particular depiction of the rangers as a dysfunctional team, along with many other aspects of this film, feels like a deconstruction of the common tropes of the show. In MMPR, Zordon got stuck with a team of goody-goods who made the Saved by the Bell cast look subtle, while here, he instead gets a team of actual misfits who bear more of a resemblance to The Breakfast Club, and I say that in the best way possible. What's more is that, unlike in the show where morphing and fighting come almost naturally to any new ranger team (thanks in no small part to use of Sentai footage), these rangers instead have to train how to fight and morph, needing to learn how to morph and to earn the ability to morph itself. Zordon doesn't just hand the ranger equipment over to these teens on a silver platter, he doesn't even think that these teens are right for the job, only begrudgingly accepting these "children" as the new rangers at first. Thus, the rangers instead have to prove their worth both to Zordon and to themselves through a growing process. Said process even shows just how in over their heads they are when they decide to confront Rita by themselves at a point when they aren't ready to do so. And because they weren't ready, there was a consequence that they had to suffer, one that any ranger team on the show rarely ever had to endure.

Making Goldar into a non-speaking monster didn't sound appealing to me at first, but it ultimately didn't bother me that much in the movie. In fact, there were some moments in which I noticed some little nuances and subtleties in his bahavior just through his body movement. During the zord fight when the rangers first think they've killed Rita, Goldar notices Rita's fallen body and stops fighting the zords to lend some of his gold to her to heal her injuries. And later when he picks her up right after the zords combined into the Megazord, before Rita fused with Goldar to augment his power, it almost looked like Goldar picked up Rita not mainly for the purpose of her fusing with him, but because he wanted to protect her. I might need to see the movie again to notice more, but it was these little moments that led me to believe that Goldar did have some degree of a will and an awareness of his own.

That said, for as little personality as Goldar had, Rita didn't have much either. But frankly, this movie making Rita interesting was hardly a concern of mine since, having seen how dysfunctional the rangers were, I knew good and well that the rangers needed the most focus and development and wanted them to get as much as possible. Sure, that meant sacrificing any attention needed to be given towards developing Rita, but Rita in the show was never really that interesting anyway. She was basic there and she's basic here, but it didn't bother me. She felt less like a character and more like a force for the rangers to overcome, and I kinda felt like that worked more towards the benefit of the rangers' development. Although, I did like the fact that Rita attacked Trini in her own home, as though as finally satisfy all those critics of the show who have asked "If Rita knows who the rangers are, then why doesn't she just attack their homes?" Another point of deconstructing the TV show.

Backing up to Zordon a bit, I liked how frustrated a character he was. Here is a person who has literally lost everything besides his very being. Everyone he knew and loved is dead, killed by one he once considered a friend. He put his faith in the Morphing Grid that it would choose worthy successors for the Power Ranger powers, and is instead given a bunch of inexperienced, undisciplined, dishonorable youths whom he sees as unworthy of such power, and yet wants to believe that the Morphing Grid didn't make a mistake in its choosing these five kids, for his faith is one of the few things he has left. What's more is how he at first manipulates the rangers, wanting them to morph so that he can restore himself to life, which creates a rift between himself and the rangers once they find out, which in turn leads to the rangers making their aforementioned mistake of confronting Rita before they're ready, which they paid the price for. It is through all this that Zordon has to redeem himself once the rangers manage to finally open the Morphing Grid, enabling Zordon to free himself. And yet, Zordon sacrifices his freedom to save Billy's life instead, mending the rift that had formed between Zordon and the rangers earlier.

Finally, let's take a look at the nerdy fanservice we got out of this movie. The 90's MMPR: The Movie version of "Go Go Power Rangers" played when all five zords were deployed. Jason David Frank and Amy Jo Johnson were among the cheering crowd of civilians near the end. Jason's dad mentioned "Mariner Bay" and "Reefside" as the names of coastal locations in Angel Grove. As Goldar gets bigger, Rita declares "Make my monster grow." Alpha, of course, uses his iconic "Ay yi yi" at least twice in the film. Zordon quotes the three Power Ranger rules almost word-for-word from their original MMPR uses. The Megazord is formed when the zords get pushed into a fiery pit by Goldar, calling to mind the scenes from certain MMPR episodes (most notably the fifth part of "Green With Evil") of the zords emerging from fiery underground pits before combining into the Megazord. And of course, Tommy Oliver is given a soft introduction in the mid-credits scene.

And for some external references, Billy referred to Spider-Man and Iron Man when speculating what kind of superheroes they would be as Power Rangers. Spider-Man's spandex-clad appearance is comparable to those of the rangers of the TV show and of Super Sentai, and his Japanese Tokusatsu series was done in the same vein that Super Sentai and later Power Rangers would become known for. Meanwhile Iron Man's suit is what many were making comparisons to with the ranger suits of this movie before it came out. And a yellow Camaro gets tossed at Goldar at one point, with Jason yelling "Sorry, Bumblebee!" :lol:

Overall, this was a surprisingly decent endeavor at making a Power Rangers movie for the more cynical movie audiences of today.
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Re: Saban and Lionsgate announce a new Power Rangers movie

Postby TulioDude » Sun Apr 16, 2017 3:24 pm

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I loved this film!When it says they are experienced fighters you belive.You get to see the bond between them grow and develop.You feel they are a team.I recommend this movie! :POPCORN:
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Re: Saban and Lionsgate announce a new Power Rangers movie

Postby william-james88 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:11 pm

TulioDude wrote:I loved this film!When it says they are experienced fighters you belive.You get to see the bond between them grow and develop.You feel they are a team.I recommend this movie! :POPCORN:

I loved this movie too. Its better than any live action TF movie so far.
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Re: Saban and Lionsgate announce a new Power Rangers movie

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:15 pm

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Guess I can de-spoil my above thoughts on the movie, now that we're talking about it more.
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Re: Saban and Lionsgate announce a new Power Rangers movie

Postby TulioDude » Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:41 pm

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The one thing everyone seems to agree on is how the Go Go Power Rangers parts feels great.

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Re: Saban and Lionsgate announce a new Power Rangers movie

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:21 pm

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TulioDude wrote:The one thing everyone seems to agree on is how the Go Go Power Rangers parts feels great.
Not "everyone", sadly. I've seen people complain that this movie used the "wrong" version, with their having wanted this movie to use the original Ron Wasserman version instead.
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Re: Saban and Lionsgate announce a new Power Rangers movie

Postby william-james88 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:51 am

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TulioDude wrote:The one thing everyone seems to agree on is how the Go Go Power Rangers parts feels great.
Not "everyone", sadly. I've seen people complain that this movie used the "wrong" version, with their having wanted this movie to use the original Ron Wasserman version instead.



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Re: Saban and Lionsgate announce a new Power Rangers movie

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:08 am

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To be fair, which version is considered the more iconic/memorable version? The Ron Wasserman version that played on TV for 153 episodes (with a minor adjustment made in the last 10 of those), or the Power Rangers Orchestra version that only played in the one movie that the show ultimately ignored?

Don't get me wrong, I like both versions. I also like the epic Masaaki Endoh version and Ron Wasserman's 2012 reduxed version. But in terms of iconography and memorability, which version of this song is the most famous version that got most people into it in the first place?

And from a production standpoint, doesn't Saban technically already have the rights or the license to the original Ron Wasserman version anyway, what with their keeping it on the DVDs, Netflix release, and Nick reruns of MMPR? I checked the end credits of the new movie and saw the words "Courtesy of 20th Century FOX" underneath the "Go Go Power Rangers" song credit, meaning that Lionsgate had to go to 20th Century FOX to get the 1994 movie version of the song instead of using the 1993 TV version that Saban (who made this movie in partnership with Liongate) already supposedly had access to.

My only guess as to why they went with the cover over the original is maybe they tried placing the original over the scene, didn't think it fit that well, then tried the cover version, and felt that it fit the scene better. *shrug*
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Postby william-james88 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:39 am

personally, I dont think any version would fit that scene. the whole film was so different from anything else before that the music kind of threw me off. I didnt mind though, I got that it was fan service.
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Re: Saban and Lionsgate announce a new Power Rangers movie

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:43 am

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william-james88 wrote:personally, I dont think any version would fit that scene. the whole film was so different from anything else before that the music kind of threw me off. I didnt mind though, I got that it was fan service.
Either way, I thought it was an awesome moment timed very well, even perfectly preceded by Alpha yelling "Go! Go, Power Rangers!" :APPLAUSE:
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Re: Saban and Lionsgate announce a new Power Rangers movie

Postby TulioDude » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:02 pm

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I don't mind using this version of the theme,gives it another chance for being awesome,instead of being a one off from the original movie.
Even if the longer version from the series is more well know,its not the exact version that played in the intro anyway,so there's room for more than one version of the song.

Another thing,while I would have liked to see the Megazord's combining sequence but I liked the whole robot emerging from the crater.Very Attack-on-titan-esque.
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Re: Saban and Lionsgate announce a new Power Rangers movie

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:07 pm

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TulioDude wrote:Even if the longer version from the series is more well know,its not the exact version that played in the intro anyway,so there's room for more than one version of the song.
I don't follow. Both the Wasserman version and the Orchestra version have the same amount of verses and chorus counts. They're not that much longer or shorter from one another, and length wasn't really an issue anyway. :???:

TulioDude wrote:Another thing,while I would have liked to see the Megazord's combining sequence but I liked the whole robot emerging from the crater.Very Attack-on-titan-esque.
Oh yeah! That made for an awesome big hero moment, followed by a hilarious prat fall that required the rangers to be in complete teamworking sync to defeat Goldar. ;)^
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Re: Saban and Lionsgate announce a new Power Rangers movie

Postby TulioDude » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:01 pm

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TulioDude wrote:Even if the longer version from the series is more well know,its not the exact version that played in the intro anyway,so there's room for more than one version of the song.
I don't follow. Both the Wasserman version and the Orchestra version have the same amount of verses and chorus counts. They're not that much longer or shorter from one another, and length wasn't really an issue anyway. :???:

The intro version of the "Go Go POwer Rangers" parts,sounds slightly different from the longer version,even if they have the same notes and lyrics.



TulioDude wrote:Another thing,while I would have liked to see the Megazord's combining sequence but I liked the whole robot emerging from the crater.Very Attack-on-titan-esque.
Oh yeah! That made for an awesome big hero moment, followed by a hilarious prat fall that required the rangers to be in complete teamworking sync to defeat Goldar. ;)^

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Re: Saban and Lionsgate announce a new Power Rangers movie

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:14 pm

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TulioDude wrote:Even if the longer version from the series is more well know,its not the exact version that played in the intro anyway,so there's room for more than one version of the song.
I don't follow. Both the Wasserman version and the Orchestra version have the same amount of verses and chorus counts. They're not that much longer or shorter from one another, and length wasn't really an issue anyway. :???:

The intro version of the "Go Go POwer Rangers" parts,sounds slightly different from the longer version,even if they have the same notes and lyrics.
I still don't see that that has to do with this, since it's the chorus that played in the movie, rather than the first few notes of the song.

And you left out the orchestra version, which was the subject of this whole discussion.
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Re: Saban and Lionsgate announce a new Power Rangers movie

Postby King Kuuga » Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:35 am

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I loved this movie too. Its better than any live action TF movie so far.

That's not really setting the bar very high. For my part, I definitely liked it, it was absolutely better than I expected, but I don't find myself compelled to go back to it again and again like some other films. My thoughts from a few months ago:
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Re: Saban and Lionsgate announce a new Power Rangers movie

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:11 am

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I ended up seeing it twice. As far as it compares to other live action robot movies, I definitely place it above all of the TF films, but below Pacific Rim. I'd say it's either right below or just on par with Real Steel.
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Re: Saban and Lionsgate announce a new Power Rangers movie

Postby william-james88 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:23 am

Sabrblade wrote:I ended up seeing it twice. As far as it compares to other live action robot movies, I definitely place it above all of the TF films, but below Pacific Rim. I'd say it's either right below or just on par with Real Steel.

This goes above all those for me :)
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Postby Va'al » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:43 pm

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It. Was. So. Silly.

It's not silly good like Pacific Rim (mostly due to the directing - eesh, shakey cam is bad enough, but turny cam for the entire opening sequence is awful), but it really makes no effort at being more than it is, and has fun with a lot of it..

..while also being INCREDIBLY conscious about the sensibilities of teenage groups (if clichéd) with discussions about sexuality, privacy, family, care, autism, development, unity, and everything the original series did so very hamfistedly. I was so pleased.

(Bonus points to only having one white dude out of the whole team, grumpy Cranston, scary Banks, and whatever the heck Hader was doing with Alpha 5.)
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Postby Shadowman » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:55 pm

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Va'al wrote:Bonus points to only having one white dude out of the whole team


I wouldn't give them bonus points for that, a lot of Ranger teams only had one white guy on there.
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Re: Saban and Lionsgate announce a new Power Rangers movie

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Re: Saban and Lionsgate announce a new Power Rangers movie

Postby Va'al » Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:09 am

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Shadowman wrote:
Va'al wrote:Bonus points to only having one white dude out of the whole team


I wouldn't give them bonus points for that, a lot of Ranger teams only had one white guy on there.


I just did.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Ok, here's a silly question about something I saw in a trailer: is that Camaro still in it?


Yes. And so is the line they say about it. :michaelbay:
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Re: Saban and Lionsgate announce a new Power Rangers movie

Postby Insurgent » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:00 am

I was catious about this film. The cow crash stuff and detention just had me rolling my eyes and wanting to just get to the morphers.

By the camp fire scene, I'd completely forgotten about the morphers, i was that drawn in by these characters. I could happily watch them dealing with their personal stuff. Great job on the acting by all the rangers.


Love love LOVE that they used the movie version of the theme. Gave it just that little extra epicness and it played perfectly in the right spot.

Cranston was as great as always and banks was chewing that scenery as i knew she would. Loved Rita and hope she's the villain for the trilogy. Even Alpha surprised me by being good. Somehow they even managed to give that faceless glob goldar a little smidge of personality.

They are not my rangers but they are good rangers. And i look forward to the next one.
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Re: Saban and Lionsgate announce a new Power Rangers movie

Postby Stuartmaximus » Sun May 14, 2017 9:02 am

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It couldn't've been that good! coz it looks like there's not gonna be another one

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