The Energon Pub

The rock lords were an interesting property, because they were the first toy built around the concept of living rocks, I. E. silicon Based life.. which in theory could eventually become a rock lord...so as a science fiction kid, the idea was pretty interesting to me..

Feel so old after seeing all those GoBot pictures. I used to have the one called Road Ranger and the one called Sparky, I think, he looks very familiar to me.
Maybe GoBots should come back and the older ones reissued, they were fun in their day and after seeing ones I never knew existed, a lot of GoBots had some great looking alt modes.

What's the chance of them coming back though? Unless Hasbro runs out of repaint ideas and is desperate.

Tony.

Smokescreened wrote:Feel so old after seeing all those GoBot pictures. I used to have the one called Road Ranger and the one called Sparky, I think, he looks very familiar to me.

Nahh, don't feel old, feel priveledged that you were around to appreciate great ideas, before the advent of Mass repaints and non armored Transformable toys...the GoBots as an Idea were probably one of the best of that time... and if not for the fact that transformers had made such a lasting impression and the size difference of their toys, along with bad business decisions by Tonka Corporate.. GoBots could very well have survived to until today.. But as it is, I think it's a testament to the development of the Characters and Back story that should be honored and incorporated into the mythos.. if you have some time go back through the thread and read some of the other fans ideas on how this toy property and idea could work if incorporated and added to the Transformers Mythos or toyline of today's toys..

Smokescreened wrote:Maybe GoBots should come back and the older ones reissued, they were fun in their day and after seeing ones I never knew existed, a lot of GoBots had some great looking alt modes.

Yeah, the altmodes of the GoBots are wonderful and areone fo the main reasons I was very hardcore into them.. the other reason was the difference in Leaders.. I was always glad there was another Leadership choice to look towards, other then just Optimus Prime and Megatron..

I like variety and the option of backing a different leader then just those two.. unfortunately the choices these days seem to just center around them.. which is sad.. and is another reason i like Rodimus Prime and Galvatron.. they are different leaders.. likewise Leader -1 and Cykill offered a different view and different style of leadership for their perspective characters and really was nice to have that difference and option of variety back in the day...

I sincerely doubt that Hasbro has the means to rerelease the molds from the previous GoBots toys, because the molds are owned by Bandai.. Tonka sold the rights to the name GoBots, Leader-1, Cykill, and so on to Hasbro.. who can still do them and add them tot he Transformers..only in this thread, I'm asking for more then a stupid kiddy crappy toy line, or a Minicon named after Leader-1 as was the case in Armada...

The digibash designs are my way of showing you what I think is possible for Hasbro to release a "Classics" styled figures of the GoBots and change their back story somewhat and add them to the Transformers Universe.. I would think it cool to see Leader-1 fighting along side Optimus Prime ina cartoon or comic continuity..with a great homage to him in plastic..


sigh....one more time:
Classics Version updated Leader -1


Classics Version Updated Crasher


Classics Version updated Cykill

Come on Hasbro Hook it up will ya!!!

Smokescreened wrote:What's the chance of them coming back though? Unless Hasbro runs out of repaint ideas and is desperate.

Tony.

Well, I don't think that they have to be desperate to do as I have just suggested.. it's really just a matter of them reinventing the characters, with similar likenesses to their original tonka counterparts..

The Main themes:

Leader-1 should be mostly Grey, a Jet, and have a head that has bars going up the side, with yellow or Golden goggles.. Leader goggles.. funky or not, it's his signature look...

Cykill should be a Motor cycle, with white, Blue, red and yellow in certain spots.. his head should be almost a cone with a very evil look on his face.. the eyes were the main part..they were black ringed in diamonds almost.. and his signature wheels on his shoulders for added imposing looks..

Crasher She is a Black Indy Racecar, fast furiously evil.. she ius mostly Black and red.. with some silver.. she is a badass and should be molded with a sleek and sexy look.. she is a seductress and a manipulator...she is everybit the GoBots equal to Starscream.. and even more so.. she's got that female edge!! I can imagine her buttering up Megatrona dn Cykill, or Starscream and then Back stabbing him in a heart beat...

Honestly, if they did that, and added them to what the Transformers were today.. it wouldn't be soo bad..

I just feel that to date those characters and the ideas behind them are lost and should have a very good homage done to their legacy, since Hasbro owns them now, why not show the older guys, and collectors, why Hasbro can and does it better!!!

Damn double post!!!

I also think that Women bots are very much not in the Transformers mythos as much as they were in the Gobots series.. and a testament is a leading lady villainess!!!

StarScream's Equal: Crasher!!!!

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l262/ ... phicBr.jpg

check out this check list of the poor man's stuff from Mello Yellow to GoBots, it's hilarious:
http://www.cracked.com/article_14910_me ... sions.html

and here is a link tot he history and really good article of the Transformers vs the GoBots:
http://seibertron.com/news/view.php?id= ... ailbreaker

I read through the whole thread before posting earlier. I also looked at all of the pictures in the Toy Archive site, I was surprised to see that the Nissan Lady 280ZX was used for an alt mode in GoBots, it looked every bit as good as the Prowl/Silverstreak/Smokescreen designs.
Maybe GoBots would have lasted a long while under better ownership, imagine seeing the Gobots going the way of Classics, Alt/BT and Masterpiece. Masterpiece CyKil and Masterpiece Leader One perhaps?

The GoBots that turned into Police cars looked amazing, I've got a soft spot for toy Police cars. It would be nice if GoBots was given a second chance, maybe with new designs updated with modern tech along with the original toy added as a comparsion and to see how it would be received. An updated Road Ranger and Sparky, with the originals added, would be a stright buy for me, that's for sure.

The potential and ideas are there.

Tony.

Smokescreened wrote:I read through the whole thread before posting earlier. I also looked at all of the pictures in the Toy Archive site, I was surprised to see that the Nissan Lady 280ZX was used for an alt mode in GoBots, it looked every bit as good as the Prowl/Silverstreak/Smokescreen designs.
Maybe GoBots would have lasted a long while under better ownership, imagine seeing the Gobots going the way of Classics, Alt/BT and Masterpiece. Masterpiece CyKil and Masterpiece Leader One perhaps?

The GoBots that turned into Police cars looked amazing, I've got a soft spot for toy Police cars. It would be nice if GoBots was given a second chance, maybe with new designs updated with modern tech along with the original toy added as a comparsion and to see how it would be received. An updated Road Ranger and Sparky, with the originals added, would be a stright buy for me, that's for sure.

The potential and ideas are there.

Tony.

I agree the original ideas are there and are still sound.. your killing me with the Masterpiece Cykill and Leader -1!!! I would totally love to see that!! ohhh man...

Anyways, didn't mean to suggest you hadn't been through the thread, just in case, I was trying to say that there are alot of cool people here with good ideas about the media..sorry.. not trying to seem like a jerk.. if I ever came off that way..

Road Ranger and Sparky are awesome bots, but I'll tell you one of my favorites ever..

Road ranger, he was quite cool and reminded me alot of Prime..
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l262/ ... dcjosh.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l262/ ... on_cyb.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l262/ ... bots-1.jpg

loved him, along with Dive Dive, Bad Boy, stinger, Small foot, Cykill, Crasher, Leader-1, Super Space-C, Sky Jack and Street heat.. phew that is alot of cool toy robots...

man is that gobot base bigger than Fort Max?

the thing about Cykill is his colors need to be changed. They don't look evil. They need to take out the blue colors, makes him look patriotic or something.

wmpyr wrote:man is that gobot base bigger than Fort Max?

the thing about Cykill is his colors need to be changed. They don't look evil. They need to take out the blue colors, makes him look patriotic or something.

yeah the Gobot Base is bigger, it's almost the same size as the At AT..

and as for the Cykill colors.. I tend to agree that they are kinda wierd.. but no so much more then starscreams colors.. or that Cybertron Megatron..blues, blacks, purples, oranges and green?? WTF??

skywarp-2 wrote:yeah the Gobot Base is bigger, it's almost the same size as the At AT..

and as for the Cykill colors.. I tend to agree that they are kinda wierd.. but no so much more then starscreams colors.. or that Cybertron Megatron..blues, blacks, purples, oranges and green?? WTF??

you always make so much sense!

I've read different parts of this thread from time to time and my feeling now is - why not add the Go-bots and the Rock Lords to the Transformers universe?

Sure, as kids many of hated them and made fun of them. But if they were given proper classic updated bodies (like Skywarp-2 provided) and if they were given a more interesting background that fit in, then why not add them?

Hah, Prime speaks German!

I would love to ahve the od one out of the Gobots, I think I had one once, I had like this blue truck, with a white trailer that was atached like Podimus Primes, it transformed similar to Road Ranger.

Thanks, guys...

I'm glad to see that some of my whinning and extensive lobbying is starting to pay off, and change some of the views of the staunch Transformers fans here in the fandom.. My only hope is that this type of discussion can lead to a massive request from the fandom to Hasbro to change their views of the Gobots Characters, and finally give them an updated and Classics look in the Universe lines..

Honestly if you think about how a back story would work it's pretty easy..and if you think about how Hasbro could do a branch off their original G-1 series, or subsequent series, it would be pretty cool too..

But let's just say for arguement's sake that we stick with the original premise and go with them just being added to G-1..

G-1 GoBots Back story:

Background:
In the farthest Reaches of Space there is a Planet controlled by the decendents of Cybertron, it is know as Gobatron!! this Planet has it's own security forces who have guarded ancient evils and past criminals of Cybertron for a millenia...

The Head of the security forces, Leader-1, are known as Guardians, who guard Gobatron's criminal populations and protect outsiders from invading their planets defenses..

History:

As the war on Cybertron escillated into civil war, the Guardians, whose name and function came from Sentinel Prime himself, have decided to remain neutral and must continue their charge of GoBatron and keep the worst criminals of the Galaxy in confinement..the worst of these is CyKill, as evil and formidable as Megatron, his war with the ruling majority of Cybertron was legendary, and was considered a rogue by the high council..thus he has called his followers and allies the Renegades!! His main goal is to seek the power of Vector Sigma, whose reach into the vast energies that started the universe can grant him unlimited power and knowledge, thus allowing him the ability to conquer the Universe..


As well as freeing the greatest Gestalt warrior of all time, Monstor!! A crazed and powerful being whose individual bots were of legendary monsters from cybertron's past, and once combined became the harbinger of Death, this masterpiece of evil was Unicron's greatest herald and achievement, through which had been dismantled and hidden away by Sentinel Prime and Alpha Trion.. only the super powerful Computer Vector Sigma and Cykill knew of Monstor's whereabouts..


Prison Break:
On a routine scouting mission, the space ship Guardian 1 (G-1), was flying back to Gobatron with supplies picked up from a local minning outpost, when a distress call came out from a small ship, the only survivor was a lone female bot known as Crasher.. she persuaded Turbo and Scooter to bring her aboard as a rescue..once back on Gobatron, Crasher used her abilities of espionage and sabotage to create minor explosions and chaos amongst the Guardian Security forces..


During the ensuing battle, Gobatron was destroyed, the remainder of the surviving criminals escaped in space ships with the Guardians in pursuit..


Adding to the Mythos:
Crashing on Earth, the Guardians and Renegades were seperated, their ships gave them Earth forms in order to hide themselves... the Autobots and Decepticons found the abandoned ships detailing their war in space and Megatron seeked to gain CyKill alliegence, for Cykill has the knowledge of the most powerful warrior constructed from the days of Cybertron's dark past.. Monstor!!


Likewise Optimus Prime has contacted the Guardian Leader-1 and has requested their help in defeating Megatron and the criminal renegades..

Classics 2.0 or universe toy release:


Wave 1:
Leader-1 -Autobot Guardian, a born leader and Security officer in charge of the Guardians, a group of Autobots who once protected and ran the maximum security Prison for Cybertron's worst criminals, Gobatron... Leader-1 now assists Optimus Prime on Earth in stopping the evil Plans of Cykill and Megatron.

( I kind of imagine a hatred like that of Depthcharge and Protoform X AKA Rampage) Leader-1 hopes to recapture the Renegades and take them to another maximum security prison on the Colony Omicron.. (thus ties it into the G-1 story, as prtotofrom X could be the final Mutated form of Monstor..)

ok anyways...

Cykill
Coptur
Crasher
Turbo
Scooter


Wave 2:
Tank
Road Ranger
Dive Dive
Bad Boy (maybe they could change his name..)


still so far those guys would make great new additons to the Autobot and decepticon cause..

think of it:

we have:
Autobots G2
Decepticons G2
Predacons
Maximals M2 (this is my personla favorite symbol)
Minicons
Vehicons:
Transtech Autobot:
Transtech Decepticon:

And we alreayd have a symbol for renegade..
Renegades:

so now we need one for Guardians:
I kinda think that a Guardians symbol would be cool and if they did the GoBots in the Transfo9rmers universe that a classics Alpha Trion, not the Botcon version, but another version should be made and come with an autobot symbol and Guardian symbol, because Alpha Trion is the head Guardian of Cybertron and would be considered by the Guardians as their chief leader..the one spot they would all covet as they rise in rank.. to one day guard the home world and the greatest power in the universe, Vector Sigma!!..




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Now that's just one way they could be brought into the original series, and how the story could work in the Transformers Mythos.. plus if you think about it, the red car Turbo, could be an older brother of Sidewswipe and there could be some friendly sibling rivalry there.. and a story built around that as well..

relationships between Cykill and Starscream would bhave a cool dichotomy to explore as well and past references to Cybertron's glory days..

if you think about it, the name Guardians from the good guys in the Gobots, fits very well in with the premise of them being security on a Prison planet..likwise the name renegades is used to describe those Criminals which fits perfectly in with why there is a planet Gobatron, and these bots come from there as apposed to Cybertron and thus explains their absense during much of G-1, but in the 1986 movie, there was no sign of them.. and no sign of alot of characters from g-1.. so in theory you could fit it into that mythos, and release toys built around that in a classics style toy..or in the Transformers Universe line..

regardless of the media, I still feel that updated toys of the Characters involved would be a huge addition to the already rich Transformers universe, and not only that but would give us great chracters too..

in any event.. I'm glad that alot of you, especially the older crowd remembers the line up, an the potential that it could have, knowing that Hasbro is sitting on a potential gold mine..hopefully they decide to use it..

Damn!! Double post again!!

Well, i'll make the most of it..

One more thing...

If IDW were to tie into their comics a story about them and add them to the mythos in a proper fashion, that wouyld totally be cool.. and asi iwas referencing Monstor as a predecessor to Rampage, that is cool too, the Beast Wars and G-1 tie ins are really cool and would make for some really interesting stories..

also as a testament to the gestalts of the day back in the 80s, check out how flexable this one is in this review:
http://www.mechaworx.com/toyreviews/res ... ansformers

another thing to note is that the fandom as a whole is starting to relook at the medium as a cool addition to the Transformers mythos:

Tfans is talking about it:
http://www.tfans.com/talk/index.php?s=d ... ntry958403

http://www.tfans.com/talk/index.php?sho ... try1033801

See, that would be my case against incorporating Gobots into TF canon: we've already got more G1 characters than anyone knows what to do with. Why import another universe of characters when we've already got so many who've never got so much as a line of dialogue in a comic?

Sledge wrote:See, that would be my case against incorporating Gobots into TF canon: we've already got more G1 characters than anyone knows what to do with. Why import another universe of characters when we've already got so many who've never got so much as a line of dialogue in a comic?

well a second line never hurt, and besides some of those characters aren't very much of a fan draw if they aren't as popular or have a famous following...So I agree there are characters who haven't seen the light of day so far.. but if you brought in some new blood so to speak and famous names like Cykill or Leader-1, and then added in some of the lesser known characters for interaction, then I think that would give them a chance to enjoy some spotlight and not be over shadowed by Megatron or Optimus Prime..

but I kinda like having the choice to be a Prime fan, or Sentinel prime fan, or Rodimus Prime fan, or Leader-1 fan as apposed to always having to follow those leaders or villains.. and usually your choices of villains or hero leaders is limited.. that's why I like Leo Prime so much, he's a cool and different version of a leader then that of Optimus Primal, and Magmatron is different from Megatron as well...which is a nice change of pace..

so it's not about too much characters, becasue the mythos could always use a fresh new direction.. and maybe as a side story, the Transformers Gobots line would be kinda refreshing and a cool way to break up the manotony of the now cliched Optimus and Megatron war... instead of a civil war leader of factions we have a security force police group chasing criminals from the maximum security prison of Gobatron.. either way, i still think we need a few homages and characters added in.. I mean just 5 Guardians and 5 Renegades wouldn't be too much to ask..

I've got no problem with a Gobot line being released, just not as part of Transformers. Hell, it would just be a load of repaints if it was.

Sledge wrote:I've got no problem with a Gobot line being released, just not as part of Transformers. Hell, it would just be a load of repaints if it was.

yeah, repaints are the one thing I don't wanna see for these characters.. they need actual updated homages as like the types of toys classics are...

I respect your view, but I still think in order for them to survive the test of time they need to be part of the transformers mythos..

9 more posts and this thread hits 200!! whoo hoo!!

I just think that they deserve to remain their own story, not get lumped in as a side-story to Transformers.

Whaddya mean, that's the story of their life?

i used to watch the cartoon when i was younger but i had no idea that gobots could such a thing combining into one giant gotbot gobots i only knew of one gobot that could do that was the gobot cars simaler to menasor i think they should just checked on wikipedia.org who was out first and foundout gobots where created in 1983 and transformers 1984 if it wasnt for gobots we wouldnt be here.

except the gobots should be in a class of there own seperate from the transformers kinda like digimon and pokemon

Sledge wrote:I just think that they deserve to remain their own story, not get lumped in as a side-story to Transformers.

Whaddya mean, that's the story of their life?

yeah but the problem is that hasbro already has a transformable toy line with robots, it wouldn't be something that I think they would want to do, becaus eit would be a rival for their transformers series.. So I do think they should be on their own at times, but in reality if they have to become part of the Trnasformers Mythos in order to survive and be actually updated and made into toys, then i'm not bothered byt hat.. as long as you can not mistake the characters for who they are and not some cheap imitation of what Hasbro thinks would be a good use of their names:

I mean come on!!! this is an insult...


this would be awesome!!


or just an updated look:

new Digibashes coming, and this time they will have Bios and updated info.. not to mention, better designs.. you sent me PM's asking for Cybertronian forms, you got it!! you sent me requests for Cop-tur, you got it! You said how can Hasbo do a Bio for these guys that works in Transformers?? I got it!! check back in 1 hour, you will see a new digiBash and Bio of the Great Master Renegade "Transformer" CyKill!!! you'll love the design..


and coming soon.....



Cybertronian Leader-1... yes he's got a Cybertronain form!!!
Hasbro can do these easily.. just repaints.. and molds they have others just import.. it's not that hard..

but in 1 hour is a glimpse of what I think Hasbro should do..

you'll not be disappointed...


















PSssssT.... if my typing sucks it's because I'm freezing!!!!

Cykill:Function: Renegade Leader
Alt-Form: Cybertronain Motorcycle

Cykill is one of the fastest vehicles on Cybetron, in his altmode of a Motorcycle, Cykill can reach speeds of over 450 miles per hour, his weaponry is cleverly hidden within his hands and he carries a small fire arm, his chest houses a ionic generator that creates Ion energy that he then can direct through his arms. the resulting effect can immobilize and damge even the toughest armored Bot.

CyKill, leader of the evil Renegades, is one of the most feared villains and Criminals in the galaxy. Under his command, the Renegades have Plundered several Bases on Cybertron and endangered several other worlds. Usually a calculating menace, he is occasionally prone to violent fits of rage. When a plan is successful, however, his arrogance can reach dangerous levels. Though a capable strategist and fighter on the battlefield, this flaw will often break a mission. Although he holds humanity as a whole in contempt, CyKill has used human allies, most notably Dr Braxis, to further his sinister goals.

History: On Cybertron Cykill was responsible for leading a team of trained theives to break into the Autobot command center and HUB known as Iacon. Once inside, Cykill used his demolitions expert, Cop-tur to pierce the shielding guarding the Autobot Matrix of leadership. His goal was to utilize it's knowledge to gain control of Unicron, and conquer the Galaxy. His Plan almost succeeded if not for the efforts of Sentinel prime, Alpha Trion and an Auotbot named Orion Pax.

Dubbing the criminals "RENEGADES" Because of their lack of alliegence to any faction, Autobot or Decepticon, Sentinel prime had Cykill and Cop-tur imprisoned on the maximum security planet of Gobotron, where he was to be placed under heavy guard in suspended animation by Leader-1, the Autobots most trusted seeker.

thousands of years later, Crasher, Cykill's espionage and covert master of deception, broke into Gobotron and succeeded on freeing Cykill and Cop-tur. the resulting escape lead them to Earth, where Cykill's master plans of regaining the Matrix came to the attention of Megatron and the Decepticons. Dr. Braxis, a mentor of Dr. Arkeville, aided Cykill in his schemes to secretly obtain energon for Megatron, all while pushing forward with his plans of domination.


Next up is Cop-tur..

here is a sneak peak of his digibash:


I hope Hasbro takes a look here.. and decides to add these guys to the Transformers Mythos...

The Cy-Kill is brilliant.

Did anyone else notice it was Cy-Kill that Megatron trashed in one of his cage matches, in the Megatron Origin comics? That resolves it. Megatron killed all the Go-Bots single handed. Hail Megatron.

Ratking wrote:Did anyone else notice it was Cy-Kill that Megatron trashed in one of his cage matches, in the Megatron Origin comics? That resolves it. Megatron killed all the Go-Bots single handed. Hail Megatron.

yeah that Gobot stigmatism is still prevelant even today within the comics community.. some artists and writers think that the Transformers fandoms enjoy watching the Gobots get bashed in media, since there was a rivalry back in the 80s..though not outrightly suggested that the name of the bot who was defeated was Cykill, I choose to think of that as a nother bot like the seekeres have doubles, and that bot was killed by Megatron in the arena battles.. Cykill is in prison on Gobotron.. that's how I see it..

I still think that the Gobots are a viable addition to the Transformers, much in the same way that Minicons have been added to the mythos and idea of Transformers..

If the Gobots were intigrated via a story that adds them as a Prisoner/Guard situation, they can neatly fit into the Transformers Verse without complications..I'm currently working on a Digibash of Leader-1 and Turbo to add to the newly designed versions of the Gobots.. you may like that design since it's based on the Starscream Voyager that was used in Cybertron as the Cybertronain form of Leader-1.. as on cybertron, the Decepticons weren't the only ones to have seekers, in my view that is a great opening to add Leader-1 as a seeker to the mix..

Most of the Autobot seekers were sent to the outer reaches of space in search of Energon, and Leader-1 (trained by StarSaber himself) with a core group of seekers and bots was comissioned by Sentinel Prime to Guard the Renegades and any other criminals of Cybertron.. he was to be relieved, until the Civil war happened and thus began Gobotron's isolation.. until the Prison Break of Cykill..

this is a story Line I think that would work well in adding the Gobots to the Transformers Canon, and would be viable for Hasbro to market those characters with updated designs to the future toylines, or even classics for that matter..
These Characters would fit in great as Transformers..


Cop-Tur:

Coptur is the Renegade enforcer. When CyKill's plans call for someone tough, he is often chosen for this duty. Though not as swift as some of the other Renegades, Cop-tur makes up for it with sheer brute force. Using his rotors like a katana, he can cut through most any material. In helicopter mode, these blades generate enough lift to allow him to hover upside down. Cop-tur's most serious weakness is sheer clumsiness in critical situations. Although he has been at least partially responsible for more than a few failures, his unquestionable loyalty has been invaluable to CyKill and the Renegades exploits.

Cop-Tur was with Cykill on their mission to steal the Matrix from iacon, he suffered a terrible defeat at the hands of Ultra Magnus and regards him as his Ultimate nemesis. Apon their prison Break from Gobotron by Crasher, Cop-Tur resumed his duty of becoming a Body guard and demolitions expert for Cykill, his hope was that he may one day run into Ultra Magnus and repay the defeat dealt him millions of years earlier on cybertron.

Cop-tur and Cykill had many exploits, witht he Guardians chadsing them, after their prison break and didn't make it to earth right away, it would be some time before they would arrive to battle alongside Megatron and his decepticons.



Next up.....Leader-1 as a Cybertronain Seeker!!!