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DESIGN WISE Go-Bots and TFs are obviously very similar.

However, in terms of stories, origins, and bio's, they are very diferent.

I(obviously)love TFs. They kick so much ass over Go-Bots it's not even funny.

I will also admit that I have a handful of Go-Bots. the only ones I can name is Scootor(Scooter, whatever) Zod(who I've kept since I was a kid), and that space station thing.

As a fan of changable mecha, there is some room for some Go-Bots, as either nostalgic pieces or filler in my collective.

However, with that said, Go-Bots are Go-bots, and Transformers are Transformers.

I know they did the whole mini-con redeco homage, but I feel there is enough confusion already in the world of TFs without throwing Tonka's failures back into the mix!

I say it often I create my own stories for my figures, but to many people count on Has/Tak to make sense of things. Can you imagine he war this would create!?!

Could you imagine the war...

"well Primus is the god of TFs, and Unicron is too, and Gobatron is anotherone to now, cause the new ultimate guide sayes that the two merged for a year to save on a studio apartment before they where planets and Spock mind melded them with the apartment so it's all of them in a diferent universe!

Thats what Simon said in Ultimate Guide #38 where now Megatron is actualy Wheelie sent to the past to create the conflict that would make the Autobots grow stronger and have the Decepticons eventualy descide to pick flowers!"

DO WE REALY NEED TO GO DOWN THIS ROUTE

skywarp-2 wrote:

lanzajr26 wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:But after looking at all these images in succession, i gotta say that the Crasher Mold, even as basic as it is, is still aesthetically Leaps and Bounds over what I have already seen so far...Geez!!! it's been a long time!!! What a testament to the bots themselves... I must find Crasher, i must have that Fembot!!! she's the equivalent of Baroness from Gi Joe, or Evillynn from He-man!! I must have her!!

Now you can join me in my eBay hunt!

already hunting!! I must admit, though I loath the spending, I do so love the chase...
http://www.tfu.info/Gobots/renegades.htm

now, Puzzler isn't the only Gestaslt I love from Gobots, there was also Monsterous!! which was robot monster Gobots combiners who became a Gestalt badass!!!




I still would love to have a leader one updated toy!!!

This is the one who I was saying had the toon version that had the face that looked like the preview of Animated Megatron in that thread today.

Again, I'm refering to her TOON version, not the toy!

Liege Evilmus wrote:DESIGN WISE Go-Bots and TFs are obviously very similar.

However, in terms of stories, origins, and bio's, they are very diferent.

I(obviously)love TFs. They kick so much ass over Go-Bots it's not even funny.

I respectfully disagree, GoBots was terminated long before it could ever reach the levels of story and back story that has evolved over time like with the Transformers and their various series..somebody help me out here..

Liege Evilmus wrote:I will also admit that I have a handful of Go-Bots. the only ones I can name is Scootor(Scooter, whatever) Zod(who I've kept since I was a kid), and that space station thing.

As a fan of changable mecha, there is some room for some Go-Bots, as either nostalgic pieces or filler in my collective.

However, with that said, Go-Bots are Go-bots, and Transformers are Transformers.

Yes, but they are similar, as you so stated above...and you are far ahead of me, for I own no Gobots at the present time, a situation which is soon to be rectified..

Liege Evilmus wrote:I know they did the whole mini-con redeco homage, but I feel there is enough confusion already in the world of TFs without throwing Tonka's failures back into the mix!

I say it often I create my own stories for my figures, but to many people count on Has/Tak to make sense of things. Can you imagine he war this would create!?!

Could you imagine the war...

"well Primus is the god of TFs, and Unicron is too, and Gobatron is anotherone to now, cause the new ultimate guide sayes that the two merged for a year to save on a studio apartment before they where planets and Spock mind melded them with the apartment so it's all of them in a diferent universe!

Thats what Simon said in Ultimate Guide #38 where now Megatron is actualy Wheelie sent to the past to create the conflict that would make the Autobots grow stronger and have the Decepticons eventualy descide to pick flowers!":BANG_HEAD: DO WE REALY NEED TO GO DOWN THIS ROUTE

Obviously, Simon with his Vast and unbreakable Knowledge of all thing transformable and Mecha related is a God..(sarcasm, smell it...ahhhhhhhh)I have no lasting love for Simon..can't you tell.. Simon has created his own brand of Continutiy Nightmares so he's not really one to talk..

But let me, an amatuer, come up with a simple solution...(please excuse me for coming off as an ass, it's not my intention, not at all...)

there are a couple fundemental things that could easily rectify the GoBots situation..

1. All GoBots History is stricken from the record entirely..

2. the Gobatron, is a Maximum Stasis Prison in the outer reaches of space, near to cybertron, hidden in a Nebula, and Only accessible from a Space Bridge..The "Guardians" are the care takers and "Guards" of the inmates in stasis...

3. the "Renegades," were villains from Cybertron's Past, who were sent to the GoBatron Prison in exile, to which at some point they were to be rehabilitated...

4. somehow they escape and make their way into the Autobot and Decepticon war..

Or Option B:

1. All Knowledge from the Tonka line is again stricken from the record, and since we are on that subject, I would be hard pressed to ask anyone if they even remember fully, what Gobots continuity even had..as a story..

2. the GoBots are explained like the Minicons, just thrown into continuity, that they are the first to "Go" Into Battle, or the First to "GO" to a Planet to scout for the Decepticons or Autobots, and the first to gather information and espionage..

3. there would be 2 teams, one called "Guardians," a term only given to the elite Autobots, special forces if you may..and consisted of a small armada under the command of Optimus Prime's most trusted Lt., Leader One!!

4. Likewise on the Decepticon side there would be a Special forces unit dedicated to sabotage and piracy, known as the "Renegades," who are Lead by Megatron's personal Assasin, Cy-Kill, and his accomplises..one of which Crasher, Megatron has an affinity for..

5. "Gobatron" is some type of Legendary weapons base that both the Autobots and Decepticons are trying to locate, for what ever reason the Gobots are sent in first to obtain the info and get the location back to Prime and his Auotbots..

(this story or the first one could easily be worked into a cartoon series as side sections of the show, examples like the cyber Planet quests..how they would vere off the story and concentrate on other characters from time to time..)

There's nop need to get worked up on how to incorporate continuity, there really isn't any to incorporate, because it died when Tonka abandoned the project, but Hasbro has it now, and should add it's richness and all the best that it did have into the Transformers, and give us fans of Gobots a little more the Minicons and Playskool homages to some of the more kickass bots from our past...

that's my take atleast.. take it for what it's worth...

skywarp-2 wrote:

Liege Evilmus wrote:DESIGN WISE Go-Bots and TFs are obviously very similar.

However, in terms of stories, origins, and bio's, they are very diferent.

I(obviously)love TFs. They kick so much ass over Go-Bots it's not even funny.

I respectfully disagree, GoBots was terminated long before it could ever reach the levels of story and back story that has evolved over time like with the Transformers and their various series..somebody help me out here..

Liege Evilmus wrote:I will also admit that I have a handful of Go-Bots. the only ones I can name is Scootor(Scooter, whatever) Zod(who I've kept since I was a kid), and that space station thing.

As a fan of changable mecha, there is some room for some Go-Bots, as either nostalgic pieces or filler in my collective.

However, with that said, Go-Bots are Go-bots, and Transformers are Transformers.

Yes, but they are similar, as you so stated above...and you are far ahead of me, for I own no Gobots at the present time, a situation which is soon to be rectified..

Liege Evilmus wrote:I know they did the whole mini-con redeco homage, but I feel there is enough confusion already in the world of TFs without throwing Tonka's failures back into the mix!

I say it often I create my own stories for my figures, but to many people count on Has/Tak to make sense of things. Can you imagine he war this would create!?!

Could you imagine the war...

"well Primus is the god of TFs, and Unicron is too, and Gobatron is anotherone to now, cause the new ultimate guide sayes that the two merged for a year to save on a studio apartment before they where planets and Spock mind melded them with the apartment so it's all of them in a diferent universe!

Thats what Simon said in Ultimate Guide #38 where now Megatron is actualy Wheelie sent to the past to create the conflict that would make the Autobots grow stronger and have the Decepticons eventualy descide to pick flowers!":BANG_HEAD: DO WE REALY NEED TO GO DOWN THIS ROUTE

Obviously, Simon with his Vast and unbreakable Knowledge of all thing transformable and Mecha related is a God..(sarcasm, smell it...ahhhhhhhh)I have no lasting love for Simon..can't you tell.. Simon has created his own brand of Continutiy Nightmares so he's not really one to talk..

But let me, an amatuer, come up with a simple solution...(please excuse me for coming off as an ass, it's not my intention, not at all...)

there are a couple fundemental things that could easily rectify the GoBots situation..

1. All GoBots History is stricken from the record entirely..

2. the Gobatron, is a Maximum Stasis Prison in the outer reaches of space, near to cybertron, hidden in a Nebula, and Only accessible from a Space Bridge..The "Guardians" are the care takers and "Guards" of the inmates in stasis...

3. the "Renegades," were villains from Cybertron's Past, who were sent to the GoBatron Prison in exile, to which at some point they were to be rehabilitated...

4. somehow they escape and make their way into the Autobot and Decepticon war..

Or Option B:

1. All Knowledge from the Tonka line is again stricken from the record, and since we are on that subject, I would be hard pressed to ask anyone if they even remember fully, what Gobots continuity even had..as a story..

2. the GoBots are explained like the Minicons, just thrown into continuity, that they are the first to "Go" Into Battle, or the First to "GO" to a Planet to scout for the Decepticons or Autobots, and the first to gather information and espionage..

3. there would be 2 teams, one called "Guardians," a term only given to the elite Autobots, special forces if you may..and consisted of a small armada under the command of Optimus Prime's most trusted Lt., Leader One!!

4. Likewise on the Decepticon side there would be a Special forces unit dedicated to sabotage and piracy, known as the "Renegades," who are Lead by Megatron's personal Assasin, Cy-Kill, and his accomplises..one of which Crasher, Megatron has an affinity for..

5. "Gobatron" is some type of Legendary weapons base that both the Autobots and Decepticons are trying to locate, for what ever reason the Gobots are sent in first to obtain the info and get the location back to Prime and his Auotbots..

(this story or the first one could easily be worked into a cartoon series as side sections of the show, examples like the cyber Planet quests..how they would vere off the story and concentrate on other characters from time to time..)

There's nop need to get worked up on how to incorporate continuity, there really isn't any to incorporate, because it died when Tonka abandoned the project, but Hasbro has it now, and should add it's richness and all the best that it did have into the Transformers, and give us fans of Gobots a little more the Minicons and Playskool homages to some of the more kickass bots from our past...

that's my take atleast.. take it for what it's worth...

Alright, so we're agreeing to kinda agree it seems.

When I mentioned continum and canon, I wasn't refering to people like you and myself who come up with there own stories, cause that's what I do. I don'y give a bleeding rats ass about what TV sayes the figured I shell out for should be doing.

I have Voltron hanging with Spider-Man, Wheeled Warriors parked outside of CastleGreySkull, Skelitor having a beer with Marv, and the list goes on and on...

I mentioned it because(and follow me) I have the little comic that came with the figures that states that GO-Bots started out as organics and became machines by replacing body parts with mechanics.

Now I will admit that the average Go-Bot basic was cooler than most MiniBots, as they had more metal and more detailed transformations.

I wouldn't mind seeing some of these molds rehashed, and updated myself(although I bet even if they where Ebay lots would still be cheaper). Alot of the pics posted here are a reminder of the potential greatness this line had. Kinda like Beta to VHS.

ut still my biggest concern is trusting Hasbro to come up with a workable story to in corporate these figures.

Like you did, and I do, we can come upwith our own scinarios, but I think it would be their fear of the knitpickers who just trash everything that would make them not want to develope this idea.

Which is sad, because it's not a bad one, but then again, like I said, Ebay gobot lots are cheap, so if your gonna make up your own, you may as well just get your own for cheap

Still, I'dwait a couple days till after this thread dies down as I'm sure it's creating an influx of gobot requests!

Liege Evilmus wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:

Liege Evilmus wrote:DESIGN WISE Go-Bots and TFs are obviously very similar.

However, in terms of stories, origins, and bio's, they are very diferent.

I(obviously)love TFs. They kick so much ass over Go-Bots it's not even funny.

I respectfully disagree, GoBots was terminated long before it could ever reach the levels of story and back story that has evolved over time like with the Transformers and their various series..somebody help me out here..

Liege Evilmus wrote:I will also admit that I have a handful of Go-Bots. the only ones I can name is Scootor(Scooter, whatever) Zod(who I've kept since I was a kid), and that space station thing.

As a fan of changable mecha, there is some room for some Go-Bots, as either nostalgic pieces or filler in my collective.

However, with that said, Go-Bots are Go-bots, and Transformers are Transformers.

Yes, but they are similar, as you so stated above...and you are far ahead of me, for I own no Gobots at the present time, a situation which is soon to be rectified..

Liege Evilmus wrote:I know they did the whole mini-con redeco homage, but I feel there is enough confusion already in the world of TFs without throwing Tonka's failures back into the mix!

I say it often I create my own stories for my figures, but to many people count on Has/Tak to make sense of things. Can you imagine he war this would create!?!

Could you imagine the war...

"well Primus is the god of TFs, and Unicron is too, and Gobatron is anotherone to now, cause the new ultimate guide sayes that the two merged for a year to save on a studio apartment before they where planets and Spock mind melded them with the apartment so it's all of them in a diferent universe!

Thats what Simon said in Ultimate Guide #38 where now Megatron is actualy Wheelie sent to the past to create the conflict that would make the Autobots grow stronger and have the Decepticons eventualy descide to pick flowers!":BANG_HEAD: DO WE REALY NEED TO GO DOWN THIS ROUTE

Obviously, Simon with his Vast and unbreakable Knowledge of all thing transformable and Mecha related is a God..(sarcasm, smell it...ahhhhhhhh)I have no lasting love for Simon..can't you tell.. Simon has created his own brand of Continutiy Nightmares so he's not really one to talk..

But let me, an amatuer, come up with a simple solution...(please excuse me for coming off as an ass, it's not my intention, not at all...)

there are a couple fundemental things that could easily rectify the GoBots situation..

1. All GoBots History is stricken from the record entirely..

2. the Gobatron, is a Maximum Stasis Prison in the outer reaches of space, near to cybertron, hidden in a Nebula, and Only accessible from a Space Bridge..The "Guardians" are the care takers and "Guards" of the inmates in stasis...

3. the "Renegades," were villains from Cybertron's Past, who were sent to the GoBatron Prison in exile, to which at some point they were to be rehabilitated...

4. somehow they escape and make their way into the Autobot and Decepticon war..

Or Option B:

1. All Knowledge from the Tonka line is again stricken from the record, and since we are on that subject, I would be hard pressed to ask anyone if they even remember fully, what Gobots continuity even had..as a story..

2. the GoBots are explained like the Minicons, just thrown into continuity, that they are the first to "Go" Into Battle, or the First to "GO" to a Planet to scout for the Decepticons or Autobots, and the first to gather information and espionage..

3. there would be 2 teams, one called "Guardians," a term only given to the elite Autobots, special forces if you may..and consisted of a small armada under the command of Optimus Prime's most trusted Lt., Leader One!!

4. Likewise on the Decepticon side there would be a Special forces unit dedicated to sabotage and piracy, known as the "Renegades," who are Lead by Megatron's personal Assasin, Cy-Kill, and his accomplises..one of which Crasher, Megatron has an affinity for..

5. "Gobatron" is some type of Legendary weapons base that both the Autobots and Decepticons are trying to locate, for what ever reason the Gobots are sent in first to obtain the info and get the location back to Prime and his Auotbots..

(this story or the first one could easily be worked into a cartoon series as side sections of the show, examples like the cyber Planet quests..how they would vere off the story and concentrate on other characters from time to time..)

There's nop need to get worked up on how to incorporate continuity, there really isn't any to incorporate, because it died when Tonka abandoned the project, but Hasbro has it now, and should add it's richness and all the best that it did have into the Transformers, and give us fans of Gobots a little more the Minicons and Playskool homages to some of the more kickass bots from our past...

that's my take atleast.. take it for what it's worth...

Alright, so we're agreeing to kinda agree it seems.

When I mentioned continum and canon, I wasn't refering to people like you and myself who come up with there own stories, cause that's what I do. I don'y give a bleeding rats ass about what TV sayes the figured I shell out for should be doing.

I have Voltron hanging with Spider-Man, Wheeled Warriors parked outside of CastleGreySkull, Skelitor having a beer with Marv, and the list goes on and on...

I mentioned it because(and follow me) I have the little comic that came with the figures that states that GO-Bots started out as organics and became machines by replacing body parts with mechanics.

Now I will admit that the average Go-Bot basic was cooler than most MiniBots, as they had more metal and more detailed transformations.

I wouldn't mind seeing some of these molds rehashed, and updated myself(although I bet even if they where Ebay lots would still be cheaper). Alot of the pics posted here are a reminder of the potential greatness this line had. Kinda like Beta to VHS.

ut still my biggest concern is trusting Hasbro to come up with a workable story to in corporate these figures.

Like you did, and I do, we can come upwith our own scinarios, but I think it would be their fear of the knitpickers who just trash everything that would make them not want to develope this idea.

Which is sad, because it's not a bad one, but then again, like I said, Ebay gobot lots are cheap, so if your gonna make up your own, you may as well just get your own for cheap

Still, I'dwait a couple days till after this thread dies down as I'm sure it's creating an influx of gobot requests!

yeah your probably right...

But Still, i would love to see them just do even 6 bots all together and add them in...like Leader One, Cy-Kill, Crasher, scooter, Cop-Tur, and Turbo... it would be cool..

Anyhow.. Here is the updated digibash of Crasher, the earlier one was wayyyy off.. but this shows how cool a mirage repaint and slight head remold would do Crasher Justice.. She's by far the easiest to redo..



Oh and I fixed Leader One's Head as well...

First of all, I loved the Gobots digibashes. VERY cool. I might have to try the Crasher one with my extra Mirage.

As for how to connect it with Transformers, I thought it might be interesting to go along these lines: since the original Gobots were cyborgs, you could have the whole thing based around the idea that Gobotron(man I hate that name) is an alternate dimension version of Cybertron, one where organic life developed. But, due to its ultimate destiny as this universe's Cybertron, there was almost a predetermination to the crisis that led to the Gobots taking on robotic bodies. At any rate, that could be a fun story to explore.

And you know who needs an updated toy in the worst way? Smallfoot.

http://koh4711.deviantart.com/art/Mighty-Robots-Smallfoot-Reborn-61524099

She was always my favorite on the show. I think she'd be a fun addition to the TF Universe.

KoH4711 wrote:First of all, I loved the Gobots digibashes. VERY cool. I might have to try the Crasher one with my extra Mirage.

As for how to connect it with Transformers, I thought it might be interesting to go along these lines: since the original Gobots were cyborgs, you could have the whole thing based around the idea that Gobotron(man I hate that name) is an alternate dimension version of Cybertron, one where organic life developed. But, due to its ultimate destiny as this universe's Cybertron, there was almost a predetermination to the crisis that led to the Gobots taking on robotic bodies. At any rate, that could be a fun story to explore.

And you know who needs an updated toy in the worst way? Smallfoot.

http://koh4711.deviantart.com/art/Mighty-Robots-Smallfoot-Reborn-61524099

She was always my favorite on the show. I think she'd be a fun addition to the TF Universe.

that would certainly be an interesting take on the GoBots.. there could also be a story whcich centered around the Earth having a twin planet, until it got knocked out of orbit by what's now our moon, similar to the prehistory of the cybermen of doctor who...

As the planet spun out of control towards the end of our solar system, being that it's axis was enough for it to elude the sun's gravity..the humanoid people's went underground and overtime became cyborgs, and ultimately the Gobots..

Gobatron as their new home world was called was a planet that was very similar to cybertron, and had their own share of problems... Cy-Kill sought ultimate power and eventually lead Unicron to Gobatron, and was double crossed and Gobatron was destroyed.. the Guardians chased Cy-Kill and his "Renegades" across the Galaxy, eventually they found Cybertron and joined in their war, and also to warn of the impending doom of Unicron..

either way there is plenty of new continuity that can be added and make Transformers even that much more richer with story, and the GoBots could finally get their rightful place in the toy world as newly formatted Autobots and Decepticons..but as ultimate Homages to their past incarnations..

Tonka May own the old molds but the characters and the basic design elements Hasbro controls, so I say give us an update..




Smallfoot was a great GoBot, it's a shame that Hasbro hasn't picked up alot of these female bots and added them to their transformers lines as well, they don't all have to look dainty like Arcee..Alot of the Gobots I'd say over half were females, which was pretty cool, cause right from the Start there were kickass girls and Gobots in love..some even had looks of surprise on their face when one walked by after having been buffed and shined.. it was kinda funny...I could totally see smallfoot dating Brawn or Bumblebee...

Crasher is one of my favorite bots, the sleek fast lane evil Baroness of the Renegades would be an awesome character to add to the Transformers Mythos..she would seduce Starscream, Megatron and Cy-Kill like she did in the GoBots TV shows, and use that to gain her own advantages...she's just about as sneaky as Starscream.. a formitable villainess..and sometimes secretly a good guy... Black Arachnia would hate her.. or could be decendent from Crasher's Spark in Beast Wars!!


the exosuits were a mark of genious, I loved how they fit over the bots and gave them extra powers!!! that sort of upgrade has been left by the way side for funky combiners that sorta look like 2 robots spit up..


Australian Alex Kubalsky of Takaratomy in Tokyo, who not only happens to be the sole foreign toy designer in Japan - he also designed all the transformations for Transformer’s Bumblebee, Mirage, I'd sure love to see how this designer would tackle the updates of the Gobots, he's apretty good toy designer, if you don't remeber the interview, i have a link to it:
http://pingmag.jp/2007/06/29/transformers/

If anyone could update the Gobots, I'm sure he could...

One thing I forgot about earlier, why is it that when Takara did the E-Hobby GoBot homages, they didn't repaint them right?(and I'm going in alphabetical order)

Bad Boy, white???:





I'm gonna leave Bugbite alone, cause the GoBot was yellow, and they couldn't have really gone anywhere else with him but white.

Pathfinder, blue? And they didn't even change the red and yellow face...









Road Ranger looks more like a Decepticon than an Autobot! And Road Ranger the GoBot is cool. I remember opening up a lunchbox my mom gave me when I was like three and him being inside. Probably was a hand-me down from my bro or she got it in a yard sale or something, and I got a little surprise when I opened it. Or I could be remembering wrong, oh well, onto the task at hand!









Smallfoot I'll let slide homage wise, cause it could have easily been confused with Swerve. But the robot mode could have had a blue chest and green eyes:





And Treads is ok too I guess. But still, over half the homages ain't right, and that's my point.

yeah, I didn't even know they did a homage, what a load of crap those toys turned out to be..Is it me or do the Gobots from 25 plus years ago still retain a better look then these cheap looking bots??? What's with all the bright colors, I mean sheesh!!! are they transformers or easter eggs!!!

skywarp-2 wrote:yeah, I didn't even know they did a homage, what a load of crap those toys turned out to be..Is it me or do the Gobots from 25 plus years ago still retain a better look then these cheap looking bots??? What's with all the bright colors, I mean sheesh!!! are they transformers or easter eggs!!!

It's not just you. After going back and taking another look at all the Gobots I had I have a better appreciation for many of them. The transformations may have been simple but they were solid toys and had some very nice looking alt modes. Bugbite and Psysho have amazing alt modes for their time.

lanzajr26 wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:yeah, I didn't even know they did a homage, what a load of crap those toys turned out to be..Is it me or do the Gobots from 25 plus years ago still retain a better look then these cheap looking bots??? What's with all the bright colors, I mean sheesh!!! are they transformers or easter eggs!!!

It's not just you. After going back and taking another look at all the Gobots I had I have a better appreciation for many of them. The transformations may have been simple but they were solid toys and had some very nice looking alt modes. Bugbite and Psysho have amazing alt modes for their time.

see you just put your finger on what I believe is a misconception by many.. Tonka gave up on the line, and Market share was heavily leaning towards the Transformers in toys and cartoons.. but think back to the G-1 line.. it was also diecast like GoBots, they had realistic colors-Like Gobots, but they excelled at more complex Transformation and articulation (if you believe it) then the GoBots had..

Granted the GoBots were small and looked like HotWheels cars, which was a real cool turn on for me as a kid.. I remember seeing those Hot wheels collectors, at stores even way back then, and I remember thinking to myself, Gobots beats their stuff hands down!!! the mnoral is that Hasbro continued their Transformers series onward till today, but what is sooo funny is that they have, over time, been more and more brightly colored cartoony bot toys then realistic diecast toys like in the 80's, granted diecast is more expensive now, but I keep wondering if Tonka had held on for another year, would the Gobots have out done Transformers during the G-2 "easter egg colors" era??

I used to pretend my Hot Wheels cars were the Humans and the Guardians cars and planes were hiding from the Renegades vehicles... what's really cool was that in the GoBots series, the Renegades were mostly cars and such, which is a cool concept if you think about them using earth modes closer to humans every day vehicles, some may even be driving a Renegade and not know it, and become an unwilling easy hostage if confronted by Leader One..it was a cool way to hide themselves and have easy Human's as shields.. a very different take on the Autobots and Decepticon view...

skywarp-2 wrote:

lanzajr26 wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:yeah, I didn't even know they did a homage, what a load of crap those toys turned out to be..Is it me or do the Gobots from 25 plus years ago still retain a better look then these cheap looking bots??? What's with all the bright colors, I mean sheesh!!! are they transformers or easter eggs!!!

It's not just you. After going back and taking another look at all the Gobots I had I have a better appreciation for many of them. The transformations may have been simple but they were solid toys and had some very nice looking alt modes. Bugbite and Psysho have amazing alt modes for their time.

see you just put your finger on what I believe is a misconception by many.. Tonka gave up on the line, and Market share was heavily leaning towards the Transformers in toys and cartoons.. but think back to the G-1 line..

This is another slight misconception when the comparison is made between Gobots and Transformers. Transformers Season 1 wasn't exactly the tightest cartoon in terms of animation and storyline. Gobots may have been more of a big commercial due to the lack of attention they gave the storyline, but both series had the same basic elements and only really varied in animation style. Obviously Transformers picked up the story telling quite a bit at the end of S1 and on into S2 but Gobots never had the chance.

Your Hot Wheels comments bring back memories for me too When I was a kid Transformers were more expensive than Gobots, so I actually had a bigger Gobot collection then and played with them quite a bit more. Since Transformers were harder for me to get I didn't actually transform and play with them as much, which is probably why I still have most of my original G1 toys in excellent condition and my Gobots are missing or trashed!

lanzajr26 wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:

lanzajr26 wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:yeah, I didn't even know they did a homage, what a load of crap those toys turned out to be..Is it me or do the Gobots from 25 plus years ago still retain a better look then these cheap looking bots??? What's with all the bright colors, I mean sheesh!!! are they transformers or easter eggs!!!

It's not just you. After going back and taking another look at all the Gobots I had I have a better appreciation for many of them. The transformations may have been simple but they were solid toys and had some very nice looking alt modes. Bugbite and Psysho have amazing alt modes for their time.

see you just put your finger on what I believe is a misconception by many.. Tonka gave up on the line, and Market share was heavily leaning towards the Transformers in toys and cartoons.. but think back to the G-1 line..

This is another slight misconception when the comparison is made between Gobots and Transformers. Transformers Season 1 wasn't exactly the tightest cartoon in terms of animation and storyline. Gobots may have been more of a big commercial due to the lack of attention they gave the storyline, but both series had the same basic elements and only really varied in animation style. Obviously Transformers picked up the story telling quite a bit at the end of S1 and on into S2 but Gobots never had the chance.

that is exactly my point on how it would be easy for Hasbro to incorporate the GoBots into their Transformers Mythology, and more importantly their toy lines.. the back stories and such are not so that they have to be followed religiously...So it wouldn't be too hard for them to incorporate that into the story lines, or future lines..

lanzajr26 wrote:Your Hot Wheels comments bring back memories for me too When I was a kid Transformers were more expensive than Gobots, so I actually had a bigger Gobot collection then and played with them quite a bit more. Since Transformers were harder for me to get I didn't actually transform and play with them as much, which is probably why I still have most of my original G1 toys in excellent condition and my Gobots are missing or trashed!

I really never had more then a total of 15 Gobots, when I was a kid....My mother would browse Garage sales and find tons of G-1 Transformers, most were in almost mint condition.. I was very happy, although some where along the line as I was getting to th age of 13, she sold off most of what is today the most valuable stuff..so I'm still mad about that, though at that time we had no way of knowing, an to be honest my interests changed rapidly towards that of the opposite sex..at that time, so as I found out then, and it's still true today, women cost you money!!! No offense to any females out there...



My goal is to own about 15 to 16 Gobots MISB, with a few variants and Japanese releases, but none that are extended Machine Robo, just the ones I had when I was a kid..the core characters..

My one greatest wish, if your listening Hasbro, is for them to make 4 Gobots characters, and incorporate them into the Transformers Universe, in a toy line or even cartoon toy line..I want to see Leader One in command of a team, and Cy-kill in command of his troops..and have a good 3-D representation of my favorite characters from back in the day...realized in plastic..!!!



One more thing of note, in my earlier take on how they can be added to continuity, the Renegades would be prisoners in exile on the Prison world of Gobatron, the Guardians are their policemen in charge of the planet's security.. this dynamic would play to favor with the Transformers, becasue they are in such a remote location, the war on cybertron has never reached them..

so as with the G-1 Mythos, Optimus Prime is a Leader of one faction of Transformer, who advocates peace, while Megatron is an idealist and wants to conquer and rule through tyranny...each have their ways about them and each are leaders of factions in a civil war.. the difference between that dynamic and that of the Gobots would be that Leader One is in charge of security for an entire planet, there is no civil war, but he has to lead his group of guardians who are like police to track down the renegades who escaped from their prison world..

Basically Optimus is a Leader of a faction in a civil war, he's like a general..

whereas Leader One is a police officer/enforcer..his style of leadership would differ from Prime's and they wouldn't always see eye to eye, what's worse is Prime controls his troops and their issues as Autobots, but Leader One has his own men who think like him, which makes it difficult for Prime sometimes..

Megatron is a Leader of a faction in a civil war, he's like a dictator..

whereas Cy-kill is a criminal, and villain..his style of rash and erratic behavior is a thorn in the side of Megatron, because he likes the added muscle the Renegades bring to his Decepticon troops, but Cy-Kill isn't an idealist like Megatron, he's a cold hard villain, and criminal, Cy-Kill will do what's necessary for himself.. and he also has his own troops that believe as he does, though some, like Crasher, are treacherous like Starscream..

So the distinction would be:

Autobots= Soldiers fighting for freedom

Decepticons= separatists fighting for control and tyrannical rule..

Guardians= policemen, and enforcers

Renegades= treacherous criminals, bent on their own gains..

lanzajr26 wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:

lanzajr26 wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:yeah, I didn't even know they did a homage, what a load of crap those toys turned out to be..Is it me or do the Gobots from 25 plus years ago still retain a better look then these cheap looking bots??? What's with all the bright colors, I mean sheesh!!! are they transformers or easter eggs!!!

It's not just you. After going back and taking another look at all the Gobots I had I have a better appreciation for many of them. The transformations may have been simple but they were solid toys and had some very nice looking alt modes. Bugbite and Psysho have amazing alt modes for their time.

see you just put your finger on what I believe is a misconception by many.. Tonka gave up on the line, and Market share was heavily leaning towards the Transformers in toys and cartoons.. but think back to the G-1 line..

This is another slight misconception when the comparison is made between Gobots and Transformers. Transformers Season 1 wasn't exactly the tightest cartoon in terms of animation and storyline. Gobots may have been more of a big commercial due to the lack of attention they gave the storyline, but both series had the same basic elements and only really varied in animation style. Obviously Transformers picked up the story telling quite a bit at the end of S1 and on into S2 but Gobots never had the chance.

that is exactly my point on how it would be easy for Hasbro to incorporate the GoBots into their Transformers Mythology, and more importantly their toy lines.. the back stories and such are not so that they have to be followed religiously...So it wouldn't be too hard for them to incorporate that into the story lines, or future lines..

lanzajr26 wrote:Your Hot Wheels comments bring back memories for me too When I was a kid Transformers were more expensive than Gobots, so I actually had a bigger Gobot collection then and played with them quite a bit more. Since Transformers were harder for me to get I didn't actually transform and play with them as much, which is probably why I still have most of my original G1 toys in excellent condition and my Gobots are missing or trashed!

I really never had more then a total of 15 Gobots, when I was a kid....My mother would browse Garage sales and find tons of G-1 Transformers, most were in almost mint condition.. I was very happy, although some where along the line as I was getting to th age of 13, she sold off most of what is today the most valuable stuff..so I'm still mad about that, though at that time we had no way of knowing, an to be honest my interests changed rapidly towards that of the opposite sex..at that time, so as I found out then, and it's still true today, women cost you money!!! No offense to any females out there...



My goal is to own about 15 to 16 Gobots MISB, with a few variants and Japanese releases, but none that are extended Machine Robo, just the ones I had when I was a kid..the core characters..

My one greatest wish, if your listening Hasbro, is for them to make 4 Gobots characters, and incorporate them into the Transformers Universe, in a toy line or even cartoon toy line..I want to see Leader One in command of a team, and Cy-kill in command of his troops..and have a good 3-D representation of my favorite characters from back in the day...realized in plastic..!!!



One more thing of note, in my earlier take on how they can be added to continuity, the Renegades would be prisoners in exile on the Prison world of Gobatron, the Guardians are their policemen in charge of the planet's security.. this dynamic would play to favor with the Transformers, becasue they are in such a remote location, the war on cybertron has never reached them..

so as with the G-1 Mythos, Optimus Prime is a Leader of one faction of Transformer, who advocates peace, while Megatron is an idealist and wants to conquer and rule through tyranny...each have their ways about them and each are leaders of factions in a civil war.. the difference between that dynamic and that of the Gobots would be that Leader One is in charge of security for an entire planet, there is no civil war, but he has to lead his group of guardians who are like police to track down the renegades who escaped from their prison world..

Basically Optimus is a Leader of a faction in a civil war, he's like a general..

whereas Leader One is a police officer/enforcer..his style of leadership would differ from Prime's and they wouldn't always see eye to eye, what's worse is Prime controls his troops and their issues as Autobots, but Leader One has his own men who think like him, which makes it difficult for Prime sometimes..

Megatron is a Leader of a faction in a civil war, he's like a dictator..

whereas Cy-kill is a criminal, and villain..his style of rash and erratic behavior is a thorn in the side of Megatron, because he likes the added muscle the Renegades bring to his Decepticon troops, but Cy-Kill isn't an idealist like Megatron, he's a cold hard villain, and criminal, Cy-Kill will do what's necessary for himself.. and he also has his own troops that believe as he does, though some, like Crasher, are treacherous like Starscream..

So the distinction would be:

Autobots= Soldiers fighting for freedom

Decepticons= separatists fighting for control and tyrannical rule..

Guardians= policemen, and enforcers

Renegades= treacherous criminals, bent on their own gains..

skywarp-2 wrote:

lanzajr26 wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:

lanzajr26 wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:yeah, I didn't even know they did a homage, what a load of crap those toys turned out to be..Is it me or do the Gobots from 25 plus years ago still retain a better look then these cheap looking bots??? What's with all the bright colors, I mean sheesh!!! are they transformers or easter eggs!!!

It's not just you. After going back and taking another look at all the Gobots I had I have a better appreciation for many of them. The transformations may have been simple but they were solid toys and had some very nice looking alt modes. Bugbite and Psysho have amazing alt modes for their time.

see you just put your finger on what I believe is a misconception by many.. Tonka gave up on the line, and Market share was heavily leaning towards the Transformers in toys and cartoons.. but think back to the G-1 line..

This is another slight misconception when the comparison is made between Gobots and Transformers. Transformers Season 1 wasn't exactly the tightest cartoon in terms of animation and storyline. Gobots may have been more of a big commercial due to the lack of attention they gave the storyline, but both series had the same basic elements and only really varied in animation style. Obviously Transformers picked up the story telling quite a bit at the end of S1 and on into S2 but Gobots never had the chance.

that is exactly my point on how it would be easy for Hasbro to incorporate the GoBots into their Transformers Mythology, and more importantly their toy lines.. the back stories and such are not so that they have to be followed religiously...So it wouldn't be too hard for them to incorporate that into the story lines, or future lines..

lanzajr26 wrote:Your Hot Wheels comments bring back memories for me too When I was a kid Transformers were more expensive than Gobots, so I actually had a bigger Gobot collection then and played with them quite a bit more. Since Transformers were harder for me to get I didn't actually transform and play with them as much, which is probably why I still have most of my original G1 toys in excellent condition and my Gobots are missing or trashed!

I really never had more then a total of 15 Gobots, when I was a kid....My mother would browse Garage sales and find tons of G-1 Transformers, most were in almost mint condition.. I was very happy, although some where along the line as I was getting to th age of 13, she sold off most of what is today the most valuable stuff..so I'm still mad about that, though at that time we had no way of knowing, an to be honest my interests changed rapidly towards that of the opposite sex..at that time, so as I found out then, and it's still true today, women cost you money!!! No offense to any females out there...



My goal is to own about 15 to 16 Gobots MISB, with a few variants and Japanese releases, but none that are extended Machine Robo, just the ones I had when I was a kid..the core characters..

My one greatest wish, if your listening Hasbro, is for them to make 4 Gobots characters, and incorporate them into the Transformers Universe, in a toy line or even cartoon toy line..I want to see Leader One in command of a team, and Cy-kill in command of his troops..and have a good 3-D representation of my favorite characters from back in the day...realized in plastic..!!!



One more thing of note, in my earlier take on how they can be added to continuity, the Renegades would be prisoners in exile on the Prison world of Gobatron, the Guardians are their policemen in charge of the planet's security.. this dynamic would play to favor with the Transformers, becasue they are in such a remote location, the war on cybertron has never reached them..

so as with the G-1 Mythos, Optimus Prime is a Leader of one faction of Transformer, who advocates peace, while Megatron is an idealist and wants to conquer and rule through tyranny...each have their ways about them and each are leaders of factions in a civil war.. the difference between that dynamic and that of the Gobots would be that Leader One is in charge of security for an entire planet, there is no civil war, but he has to lead his group of guardians who are like police to track down the renegades who escaped from their prison world..

Basically Optimus is a Leader of a faction in a civil war, he's like a general..

whereas Leader One is a police officer/enforcer..his style of leadership would differ from Prime's and they wouldn't always see eye to eye, what's worse is Prime controls his troops and their issues as Autobots, but Leader One has his own men who think like him, which makes it difficult for Prime sometimes..

Megatron is a Leader of a faction in a civil war, he's like a dictator..

whereas Cy-kill is a criminal, and villain..his style of rash and erratic behavior is a thorn in the side of Megatron, because he likes the added muscle the Renegades bring to his Decepticon troops, but Cy-Kill isn't an idealist like Megatron, he's a cold hard villain, and criminal, Cy-Kill will do what's necessary for himself.. and he also has his own troops that believe as he does, though some, like Crasher, are treacherous like Starscream..

So the distinction would be:

Autobots= Soldiers fighting for freedom

Decepticons= separatists fighting for control and tyrannical rule..

Guardians= policemen, and enforcers

Renegades= treacherous criminals, bent on their own gains..

Holy Crap!!!! I missed alot, I was on Vacation, sorry guys.

I have to say, kudos to you Skywarp! When you take an idea and run with it, you certainly do it with style. I love your digi-bash updates for the Gobots, and the links that the other members provided along with their comments makes this thread a worth while read. I have only made it to page 4 for now, but I plan on finishing the rest after Lunch.

What a great topic, full of insight, and images with great and cool nostalgic stories. Unfortunately, I grew up with the Beast Wars era, so I can't say that I had any prior knowledge of the Gobots, except the occasional references made here and there. Yet with all the links to resources on the subject, and the fact that Hasbro now owns this property, I can certainly see why it's clearly relevant to the Transformers.

I do see that the Gobots were a cool property to be intersted in, I would love to have Hasbro do them in a future transformers series as well. Nice thread, kudos to you Skywarp-2,lanzajr26, SnapTrap, and Duke of Luns, you guys are always great posters who make being here on this forum entertaining and fun.

Maximal Primal wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:

lanzajr26 wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:

lanzajr26 wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:yeah, I didn't even know they did a homage, what a load of crap those toys turned out to be..Is it me or do the Gobots from 25 plus years ago still retain a better look then these cheap looking bots??? What's with all the bright colors, I mean sheesh!!! are they transformers or easter eggs!!!

It's not just you. After going back and taking another look at all the Gobots I had I have a better appreciation for many of them. The transformations may have been simple but they were solid toys and had some very nice looking alt modes. Bugbite and Psysho have amazing alt modes for their time.

see you just put your finger on what I believe is a misconception by many.. Tonka gave up on the line, and Market share was heavily leaning towards the Transformers in toys and cartoons.. but think back to the G-1 line..

This is another slight misconception when the comparison is made between Gobots and Transformers. Transformers Season 1 wasn't exactly the tightest cartoon in terms of animation and storyline. Gobots may have been more of a big commercial due to the lack of attention they gave the storyline, but both series had the same basic elements and only really varied in animation style. Obviously Transformers picked up the story telling quite a bit at the end of S1 and on into S2 but Gobots never had the chance.

that is exactly my point on how it would be easy for Hasbro to incorporate the GoBots into their Transformers Mythology, and more importantly their toy lines.. the back stories and such are not so that they have to be followed religiously...So it wouldn't be too hard for them to incorporate that into the story lines, or future lines..

lanzajr26 wrote:Your Hot Wheels comments bring back memories for me too When I was a kid Transformers were more expensive than Gobots, so I actually had a bigger Gobot collection then and played with them quite a bit more. Since Transformers were harder for me to get I didn't actually transform and play with them as much, which is probably why I still have most of my original G1 toys in excellent condition and my Gobots are missing or trashed!

I really never had more then a total of 15 Gobots, when I was a kid....My mother would browse Garage sales and find tons of G-1 Transformers, most were in almost mint condition.. I was very happy, although some where along the line as I was getting to th age of 13, she sold off most of what is today the most valuable stuff..so I'm still mad about that, though at that time we had no way of knowing, an to be honest my interests changed rapidly towards that of the opposite sex..at that time, so as I found out then, and it's still true today, women cost you money!!! No offense to any females out there...



My goal is to own about 15 to 16 Gobots MISB, with a few variants and Japanese releases, but none that are extended Machine Robo, just the ones I had when I was a kid..the core characters..

My one greatest wish, if your listening Hasbro, is for them to make 4 Gobots characters, and incorporate them into the Transformers Universe, in a toy line or even cartoon toy line..I want to see Leader One in command of a team, and Cy-kill in command of his troops..and have a good 3-D representation of my favorite characters from back in the day...realized in plastic..!!!



One more thing of note, in my earlier take on how they can be added to continuity, the Renegades would be prisoners in exile on the Prison world of Gobatron, the Guardians are their policemen in charge of the planet's security.. this dynamic would play to favor with the Transformers, becasue they are in such a remote location, the war on cybertron has never reached them..

so as with the G-1 Mythos, Optimus Prime is a Leader of one faction of Transformer, who advocates peace, while Megatron is an idealist and wants to conquer and rule through tyranny...each have their ways about them and each are leaders of factions in a civil war.. the difference between that dynamic and that of the Gobots would be that Leader One is in charge of security for an entire planet, there is no civil war, but he has to lead his group of guardians who are like police to track down the renegades who escaped from their prison world..

Basically Optimus is a Leader of a faction in a civil war, he's like a general..

whereas Leader One is a police officer/enforcer..his style of leadership would differ from Prime's and they wouldn't always see eye to eye, what's worse is Prime controls his troops and their issues as Autobots, but Leader One has his own men who think like him, which makes it difficult for Prime sometimes..

Megatron is a Leader of a faction in a civil war, he's like a dictator..

whereas Cy-kill is a criminal, and villain..his style of rash and erratic behavior is a thorn in the side of Megatron, because he likes the added muscle the Renegades bring to his Decepticon troops, but Cy-Kill isn't an idealist like Megatron, he's a cold hard villain, and criminal, Cy-Kill will do what's necessary for himself.. and he also has his own troops that believe as he does, though some, like Crasher, are treacherous like Starscream..

So the distinction would be:

Autobots= Soldiers fighting for freedom

Decepticons= separatists fighting for control and tyrannical rule..

Guardians= policemen, and enforcers

Renegades= treacherous criminals, bent on their own gains..

Holy Crap!!!! I missed alot, I was on Vacation, sorry guys.

I have to say, kudos to you Skywarp! When you take an idea and run with it, you certainly do it with style. I love your digi-bash updates for the Gobots, and the links that the other members provided along with their comments makes this thread a worth while read. I have only made it to page 4 for now, but I plan on finishing the rest after Lunch.

What a great topic, full of insight, and images with great and cool nostalgic stories. Unfortunately, I grew up with the Beast Wars era, so I can't say that I had any prior knowledge of the Gobots, except the occasional references made here and there. Yet with all the links to resources on the subject, and the fact that Hasbro now owns this property, I can certainly see why it's clearly relevant to the Transformers.

I do see that the Gobots were a cool property to be intersted in, I would love to have Hasbro do them in a future transformers series as well. Nice thread, kudos to you Skywarp-2,lanzajr26, SnapTrap, and Duke of Luns, you guys are always great posters who make being here on this forum entertaining and fun.

thanks for the support Max, glad to see you back! I know your a strictly a Beast bots fan but there is something priceless about cars and planes too!!!!

Don't know if this was already mentioned, but today's issue of toyfare (9-12-2007) had cy-kill on the bottom right cover and says something like "gobots: cooler than you remember"

I haven't read toyfare in years but I might pick this up. They must have read all the threads popping up on tf sites about how cool gobots are (I've made a few, though I was ripped on in mine )

Skywarp...those mockups you made look fantastic. *sighs* It's a shame we'll never see them become reality.

tacogrande wrote:Don't know if this was already mentioned, but today's issue of toyfare (9-12-2007) had cy-kill on the bottom right cover and says something like "gobots: cooler than you remember"

I haven't read toyfare in years but I might pick this up. They must have read all the threads popping up on tf sites about how cool Gobots are (I've made a few, though I was ripped on in mine )

I'm sorry you had such a bad run with your supposed Gobots love thread, I hope I have broken some kind of Barrier with this particular thread and my ramblings, which I hope were amusing and mildly entertaining and certainly not annoying....either way, let your Gobots love pour into this thread if you like, we are supportive here..

as for the Toyfare thing, I seriously doubt they would have read this thread and put that out in their issue, it would have had to have been months before I even came out speaking on this subject..However Toyfare can have my Digi-bashed renders of what they would look like updated by Hasbro for Free!!! You hear that Toyfare, use my pics!!! get the word out to everyone including Hasbro!! Make us some Gobots!!!!


for them to even get articles together.. as far as other boards and forums doing the "Gobots rewind" I think that could be due to the popularity of this thread.. but it could also be an awareness that is starting to spread throughout the fandom, as people slowly realize that Hasbro is sitting on Gold with their property acquisition of Gobots, and has yet to realize its full potential.. in either case, it's nice to see a wide range of support out there, maybe this will lead to future Gobots making their way into the Transformers Mythos and toy lines..

Autobot032 wrote:Skywarp...those mockups you made look fantastic. *sighs* It's a shame we'll never see them become reality.

The Millennium is still young my friend.. someday they will decide to do them, and I'll be there cash in hand and smile on my fanboy face!!! similar to that...

skywarp-2 wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:Skywarp...those mockups you made look fantastic. *sighs* It's a shame we'll never see them become reality.

The Millennium is still young my friend.. someday they will decide to do them, and I'll be there cash in hand and smile on my fanboy face!!! similar to that...

Well I hope that's the not the face you'll have...them's a lot of teeth to clean, not to mention the really bad case of Jaundice.

O_o...

Autobot032 wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:Skywarp...those mockups you made look fantastic. *sighs* It's a shame we'll never see them become reality.

The Millennium is still young my friend.. someday they will decide to do them, and I'll be there cash in hand and smile on my fanboy face!!! similar to that...

Well I hope that's the not the face you'll have...them's a lot of teeth to clean, not to mention the really bad case of Jaundice.

O_o...

yeah, no my mouth is large but not that large and I'm pretty pale respectfully speaking... see my myspace link below my sig...that's Me!!!

skywarp-2 wrote:

Maximal Primal wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:

lanzajr26 wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:

lanzajr26 wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:yeah, I didn't even know they did a homage, what a load of crap those toys turned out to be..Is it me or do the Gobots from 25 plus years ago still retain a better look then these cheap looking bots??? What's with all the bright colors, I mean sheesh!!! are they transformers or easter eggs!!!

It's not just you. After going back and taking another look at all the Gobots I had I have a better appreciation for many of them. The transformations may have been simple but they were solid toys and had some very nice looking alt modes. Bugbite and Psysho have amazing alt modes for their time.

see you just put your finger on what I believe is a misconception by many.. Tonka gave up on the line, and Market share was heavily leaning towards the Transformers in toys and cartoons.. but think back to the G-1 line..

This is another slight misconception when the comparison is made between Gobots and Transformers. Transformers Season 1 wasn't exactly the tightest cartoon in terms of animation and storyline. Gobots may have been more of a big commercial due to the lack of attention they gave the storyline, but both series had the same basic elements and only really varied in animation style. Obviously Transformers picked up the story telling quite a bit at the end of S1 and on into S2 but Gobots never had the chance.

that is exactly my point on how it would be easy for Hasbro to incorporate the GoBots into their Transformers Mythology, and more importantly their toy lines.. the back stories and such are not so that they have to be followed religiously...So it wouldn't be too hard for them to incorporate that into the story lines, or future lines..

lanzajr26 wrote:Your Hot Wheels comments bring back memories for me too When I was a kid Transformers were more expensive than Gobots, so I actually had a bigger Gobot collection then and played with them quite a bit more. Since Transformers were harder for me to get I didn't actually transform and play with them as much, which is probably why I still have most of my original G1 toys in excellent condition and my Gobots are missing or trashed!

I really never had more then a total of 15 Gobots, when I was a kid....My mother would browse Garage sales and find tons of G-1 Transformers, most were in almost mint condition.. I was very happy, although some where along the line as I was getting to th age of 13, she sold off most of what is today the most valuable stuff..so I'm still mad about that, though at that time we had no way of knowing, an to be honest my interests changed rapidly towards that of the opposite sex..at that time, so as I found out then, and it's still true today, women cost you money!!! No offense to any females out there...



My goal is to own about 15 to 16 Gobots MISB, with a few variants and Japanese releases, but none that are extended Machine Robo, just the ones I had when I was a kid..the core characters..

My one greatest wish, if your listening Hasbro, is for them to make 4 Gobots characters, and incorporate them into the Transformers Universe, in a toy line or even cartoon toy line..I want to see Leader One in command of a team, and Cy-kill in command of his troops..and have a good 3-D representation of my favorite characters from back in the day...realized in plastic..!!!



One more thing of note, in my earlier take on how they can be added to continuity, the Renegades would be prisoners in exile on the Prison world of Gobatron, the Guardians are their policemen in charge of the planet's security.. this dynamic would play to favor with the Transformers, becasue they are in such a remote location, the war on cybertron has never reached them..

so as with the G-1 Mythos, Optimus Prime is a Leader of one faction of Transformer, who advocates peace, while Megatron is an idealist and wants to conquer and rule through tyranny...each have their ways about them and each are leaders of factions in a civil war.. the difference between that dynamic and that of the Gobots would be that Leader One is in charge of security for an entire planet, there is no civil war, but he has to lead his group of guardians who are like police to track down the renegades who escaped from their prison world..

Basically Optimus is a Leader of a faction in a civil war, he's like a general..

whereas Leader One is a police officer/enforcer..his style of leadership would differ from Prime's and they wouldn't always see eye to eye, what's worse is Prime controls his troops and their issues as Autobots, but Leader One has his own men who think like him, which makes it difficult for Prime sometimes..

Megatron is a Leader of a faction in a civil war, he's like a dictator..

whereas Cy-kill is a criminal, and villain..his style of rash and erratic behavior is a thorn in the side of Megatron, because he likes the added muscle the Renegades bring to his Decepticon troops, but Cy-Kill isn't an idealist like Megatron, he's a cold hard villain, and criminal, Cy-Kill will do what's necessary for himself.. and he also has his own troops that believe as he does, though some, like Crasher, are treacherous like Starscream..

So the distinction would be:

Autobots= Soldiers fighting for freedom

Decepticons= separatists fighting for control and tyrannical rule..

Guardians= policemen, and enforcers

Renegades= treacherous criminals, bent on their own gains..

Holy Crap!!!! I missed alot, I was on Vacation, sorry guys.

I have to say, kudos to you Skywarp! When you take an idea and run with it, you certainly do it with style. I love your digi-bash updates for the Gobots, and the links that the other members provided along with their comments makes this thread a worth while read. I have only made it to page 4 for now, but I plan on finishing the rest after Lunch.

What a great topic, full of insight, and images with great and cool nostalgic stories. Unfortunately, I grew up with the Beast Wars era, so I can't say that I had any prior knowledge of the Gobots, except the occasional references made here and there. Yet with all the links to resources on the subject, and the fact that Hasbro now owns this property, I can certainly see why it's clearly relevant to the Transformers.

I do see that the Gobots were a cool property to be intersted in, I would love to have Hasbro do them in a future transformers series as well. Nice thread, kudos to you Skywarp-2,lanzajr26, SnapTrap, and Duke of Luns, you guys are always great posters who make being here on this forum entertaining and fun.

thanks for the support Max, glad to see you back! I know your a strictly a Beast bots fan but there is something priceless about cars and planes too!!!!

Actually, I'm kind of into the obscure, so I may check out the Rocklords. I would like to see them do some Rock Lords, since I'm a Beast wars fan and all. I just like stuff like that, the organic and obscure is my kinda cup O' Tea.

Unfortunately I'm allergic to tea.... But yeah, Rock lords are the bomb diggity, they are pretty cool, because they are rare and different from what we have seen before. Machines who hide themselves in the form of Rocks, unreal....

I didn't mean this thread imparticular, because they probably write articles months in advance. There have been lots of threads here posted about gobots, I usually post in them when I see them.

I save the pictures of stuff I sell on eBay so I won't forget about it. Well I did forget them until I found the pics on an old computer... look at what I sold a few years ago:









I miss them, I'm a fool for selling them.

I did save a handful, and I've bought a couple in the past few months at a comic store for like $3. I'm never selling toys that I've loved at any point again. I learned my lesson.

tacogrande wrote:I didn't mean this thread imparticular, because they probably write articles months in advance. There have been lots of threads here posted about gobots, I usually post in them when I see them.

I save the pictures of stuff I sell on eBay so I won't forget about it. Well I did forget them until I found the pics on an old computer... look at what I sold a few years ago:









I miss them, I'm a fool for selling them.

I did save a handful, and I've bought a couple in the past few months at a comic store for like $3. I'm never selling toys that I've loved at any point again. I learned my lesson.

YOUR KILLING ME!!!!