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News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:41 pm

skywarp-2 wrote:
Chosen wrote:It's odd. Not too surprising, but odd that of all the nonsense to irritate me in the thread, not a bit of it has to do with Punch and Judy going at it for whatever reason, but this.

skywarp-2 wrote:And to those who showed support of the Gobots, way to go!!! Thanks for coming out and not being afraid to like them and show it.. I like them, and since Hasbro has the license for them and reproduced them already under the Transformers label, that makes them part of the Transformers Mythos, already...So sorry guys, it already happened

Dude. It's like a f*cking brick wall that has the ability to post. Hasbro has no "license." GoBots have never been "reproduced by Hasbro," and certainly aren't part of the mythos officially. Are you intentionally living in some fantasy world where Hasbro has or should have done specifically what you want out of them?

Hasbro snatched up Tonka the same way they did Kenner. They can now claim ownership to some Gobot names, the same way they can't use every G1 name out there. In fact, several Gobots happened to have the same names as some G1 characters regardless - particularly Rumble, Blaster, and Warpath. The only original names in recent use are Brimstone, Bugbite, and of course, Leader-1. That's it.

I have no idea what your definition of reproduction is. These do not constitute a reproduction. You're going to have to fill me in otherwise, because I think that was my brain that just oozed onto my shoulder.

But in all seriousness, I'm not getting it. Care to fill the rest of us in, please?

ok just for the sake of argument and to also keep your brain from exploding I have compiled the information yee seek.. young Padawan...

Playskool Transformers Go-Bots was a kid line that was released some time ago that incorporated the name and a few Go-Bots names into their toyline.. now this not being a full fledged addition to the Original or at that time, running Transformers series, it did in fact exist, thus, the "Name" Gobots was introduced under the Transformers Banner.. Further more..
http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Go-Bots_(toyline)

Unlike Transformers, Gobots was released in several different guises around the world.

In the UK, France and a number of other European countries, Bandai released the figures as Robo Machine, utilising most of the Tonka names. Later on, when the Challenge of the Gobots cartoon arrived, this was changed, or modified (often resulting in clumsy branding such as Robo Machines featuring Challenge of the Gobots or Challenge of the Gobots - A Robo Machine Production).

In Australia, the line was released as Machine Men. The Machine Men name had been used also by Bandai in an item to market Machine Robo in America in early 1983, but after issuing six figures the line failed. However, Bandai's Australian release was successful enough to retain the Machine Men branding, which was even added to the cartoon when that began airing.

In Brazil, the line was initially produced by Glasslite as Mutante. The license was later taken over by Mimo.
It was also translated into Arabic and retitled Hikayat alamaliqa, or A Tale of Giants.

In Japan, Bandai opted to keep with the Machine Robo line, rather than importing the Gobots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobots

In 1991, Hasbro took over Tonka, and thus the Gobot trademarks; the molds for the action figures remain the property of Bandai, having only been leased to Tonka, and some were reissued in 1993 for the European Robo Machines line. Since then, these have been used several times – a character called Gobots was released in 1993, a range of figures in 1995 were called the Go-Bots, and Hasbro subsidiary Playskool issued a line named Transformers: Gobots in 2002.

So with the above information, it is possible for HASBRO TO PRODUCE THEIR OWN MOLDS FOR AN UPDATED RELEASE...

ONLY BANDAI OWNS THE ORIGINAL MOLDS...

My reissue dreams are dead, but a fully realized Voyager Leader-1 is still a possability.. someday...and Cy-Kill, ect... Bandai only controls the original Molds, they can do an updated version of those designs without any difficulty..

The Brick Wall has spoken!!!

Nice, posable, updated molds would be fantastic.

News Credits: 5 · by **skywarp-2** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:45 pm

Autobot032 wrote:
skywarp-2 wrote:
Chosen wrote:It's odd. Not too surprising, but odd that of all the nonsense to irritate me in the thread, not a bit of it has to do with Punch and Judy going at it for whatever reason, but this.

skywarp-2 wrote:And to those who showed support of the Gobots, way to go!!! Thanks for coming out and not being afraid to like them and show it.. I like them, and since Hasbro has the license for them and reproduced them already under the Transformers label, that makes them part of the Transformers Mythos, already...So sorry guys, it already happened

Dude. It's like a f*cking brick wall that has the ability to post. Hasbro has no "license." GoBots have never been "reproduced by Hasbro," and certainly aren't part of the mythos officially. Are you intentionally living in some fantasy world where Hasbro has or should have done specifically what you want out of them?

Hasbro snatched up Tonka the same way they did Kenner. They can now claim ownership to some Gobot names, the same way they can't use every G1 name out there. In fact, several Gobots happened to have the same names as some G1 characters regardless - particularly Rumble, Blaster, and Warpath. The only original names in recent use are Brimstone, Bugbite, and of course, Leader-1. That's it.

I have no idea what your definition of reproduction is. These do not constitute a reproduction. You're going to have to fill me in otherwise, because I think that was my brain that just oozed onto my shoulder.

But in all seriousness, I'm not getting it. Care to fill the rest of us in, please?

ok just for the sake of argument and to also keep your brain from exploding I have compiled the information yee seek.. young Padawan...

Playskool Transformers Go-Bots was a kid line that was released some time ago that incorporated the name and a few Go-Bots names into their toyline.. now this not being a full fledged addition to the Original or at that time, running Transformers series, it did in fact exist, thus, the "Name" Gobots was introduced under the Transformers Banner.. Further more..
http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Go-Bots_(toyline)

Unlike Transformers, Gobots was released in several different guises around the world.

In the UK, France and a number of other European countries, Bandai released the figures as Robo Machine, utilising most of the Tonka names. Later on, when the Challenge of the Gobots cartoon arrived, this was changed, or modified (often resulting in clumsy branding such as Robo Machines featuring Challenge of the Gobots or Challenge of the Gobots - A Robo Machine Production).

In Australia, the line was released as Machine Men. The Machine Men name had been used also by Bandai in an item to market Machine Robo in America in early 1983, but after issuing six figures the line failed. However, Bandai's Australian release was successful enough to retain the Machine Men branding, which was even added to the cartoon when that began airing.

In Brazil, the line was initially produced by Glasslite as Mutante. The license was later taken over by Mimo.
It was also translated into Arabic and retitled Hikayat alamaliqa, or A Tale of Giants.

In Japan, Bandai opted to keep with the Machine Robo line, rather than importing the Gobots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobots

In 1991, Hasbro took over Tonka, and thus the Gobot trademarks; the molds for the action figures remain the property of Bandai, having only been leased to Tonka, and some were reissued in 1993 for the European Robo Machines line. Since then, these have been used several times – a character called Gobots was released in 1993, a range of figures in 1995 were called the Go-Bots, and Hasbro subsidiary Playskool issued a line named Transformers: Gobots in 2002.

So with the above information, it is possible for HASBRO TO PRODUCE THEIR OWN MOLDS FOR AN UPDATED RELEASE...

ONLY BANDAI OWNS THE ORIGINAL MOLDS...

My reissue dreams are dead, but a fully realized Voyager Leader-1 is still a possability.. someday...and Cy-Kill, ect... Bandai only controls the original Molds, they can do an updated version of those designs without any difficulty..

The Brick Wall has spoken!!!

Nice, posable, updated molds would be fantastic.

yeah I'm talking about something along the lines of what they did for classics Jetfire...awwww man a aPosable Cy-Kill with Decepticon symbol... on his chest!!! Sweet!!

Leader-1 with Autobot symbol like the seekers on his wings or on his fusalage!! nice!!

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:48 pm

skywarp-2 wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:
skywarp-2 wrote:
Chosen wrote:It's odd. Not too surprising, but odd that of all the nonsense to irritate me in the thread, not a bit of it has to do with Punch and Judy going at it for whatever reason, but this.

skywarp-2 wrote:And to those who showed support of the Gobots, way to go!!! Thanks for coming out and not being afraid to like them and show it.. I like them, and since Hasbro has the license for them and reproduced them already under the Transformers label, that makes them part of the Transformers Mythos, already...So sorry guys, it already happened

Dude. It's like a f*cking brick wall that has the ability to post. Hasbro has no "license." GoBots have never been "reproduced by Hasbro," and certainly aren't part of the mythos officially. Are you intentionally living in some fantasy world where Hasbro has or should have done specifically what you want out of them?

Hasbro snatched up Tonka the same way they did Kenner. They can now claim ownership to some Gobot names, the same way they can't use every G1 name out there. In fact, several Gobots happened to have the same names as some G1 characters regardless - particularly Rumble, Blaster, and Warpath. The only original names in recent use are Brimstone, Bugbite, and of course, Leader-1. That's it.

I have no idea what your definition of reproduction is. These do not constitute a reproduction. You're going to have to fill me in otherwise, because I think that was my brain that just oozed onto my shoulder.

But in all seriousness, I'm not getting it. Care to fill the rest of us in, please?

ok just for the sake of argument and to also keep your brain from exploding I have compiled the information yee seek.. young Padawan...

Playskool Transformers Go-Bots was a kid line that was released some time ago that incorporated the name and a few Go-Bots names into their toyline.. now this not being a full fledged addition to the Original or at that time, running Transformers series, it did in fact exist, thus, the "Name" Gobots was introduced under the Transformers Banner.. Further more..
http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Go-Bots_(toyline)

Unlike Transformers, Gobots was released in several different guises around the world.

In the UK, France and a number of other European countries, Bandai released the figures as Robo Machine, utilising most of the Tonka names. Later on, when the Challenge of the Gobots cartoon arrived, this was changed, or modified (often resulting in clumsy branding such as Robo Machines featuring Challenge of the Gobots or Challenge of the Gobots - A Robo Machine Production).

In Australia, the line was released as Machine Men. The Machine Men name had been used also by Bandai in an item to market Machine Robo in America in early 1983, but after issuing six figures the line failed. However, Bandai's Australian release was successful enough to retain the Machine Men branding, which was even added to the cartoon when that began airing.

In Brazil, the line was initially produced by Glasslite as Mutante. The license was later taken over by Mimo.
It was also translated into Arabic and retitled Hikayat alamaliqa, or A Tale of Giants.

In Japan, Bandai opted to keep with the Machine Robo line, rather than importing the Gobots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobots

In 1991, Hasbro took over Tonka, and thus the Gobot trademarks; the molds for the action figures remain the property of Bandai, having only been leased to Tonka, and some were reissued in 1993 for the European Robo Machines line. Since then, these have been used several times – a character called Gobots was released in 1993, a range of figures in 1995 were called the Go-Bots, and Hasbro subsidiary Playskool issued a line named Transformers: Gobots in 2002.

So with the above information, it is possible for HASBRO TO PRODUCE THEIR OWN MOLDS FOR AN UPDATED RELEASE...

ONLY BANDAI OWNS THE ORIGINAL MOLDS...

My reissue dreams are dead, but a fully realized Voyager Leader-1 is still a possability.. someday...and Cy-Kill, ect... Bandai only controls the original Molds, they can do an updated version of those designs without any difficulty..

The Brick Wall has spoken!!!

Nice, posable, updated molds would be fantastic.

yeah I'm talking about something along the lines of what they did for classics Jetfire...awwww man a aPosable Cy-Kill with Decepticon symbol... on his chest!!! Sweet!!

Leader-1 with Autobot symbol like the seekers on his wings or on his fusalage!! nice!!

Oh I wouldn't want them to be TFs. I'd want them to be Go-Bots again. Help breathe life back into the series.

News Credits: 20 · by **Chosen** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:50 pm

skywarp-2 wrote:ok just for the sake of argument and to also keep your brain from exploding I have compiled the information yee seek.. young Padawan...

Playskool Transformers Go-Bots was a kid line that was released some time ago that incorporated the name and a few Go-Bots names into their toyline.. now this not being a full fledged addition to the Original or at that time, running Transformers series, it did in fact exist, thus, the "Name" Gobots was introduced under the Transformers Banner.. Further more..
http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Go-Bots_(toyline)

This is no different that the figures we also know as Spy Changers being called Gobots in G2. And if you'd read the Teletraan-1 link you provided, you'd see no other original Gobot names either.

skywarp-2 wrote:Unlike Transformers, Gobots was released in several different guises around the world.

In the UK, France and a number of other European countries, Bandai released the figures as Robo Machine, utilising most of the Tonka names. Later on, when the Challenge of the Gobots cartoon arrived, this was changed, or modified (often resulting in clumsy branding such as Robo Machines featuring Challenge of the Gobots or Challenge of the Gobots - A Robo Machine Production).

In Australia, the line was released as Machine Men. The Machine Men name had been used also by Bandai in an item to market Machine Robo in America in early 1983, but after issuing six figures the line failed. However, Bandai's Australian release was successful enough to retain the Machine Men branding, which was even added to the cartoon when that began airing.

In Brazil, the line was initially produced by Glasslite as Mutante. The license was later taken over by Mimo.
It was also translated into Arabic and retitled Hikayat alamaliqa, or A Tale of Giants.

In Japan, Bandai opted to keep with the Machine Robo line, rather than importing the Gobots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobots

In 1991, Hasbro took over Tonka, and thus the Gobot trademarks; the molds for the action figures remain the property of Bandai, having only been leased to Tonka, and some were reissued in 1993 for the European Robo Machines line. Since then, these have been used several times – a character called Gobots was released in 1993, a range of figures in 1995 were called the Go-Bots, and Hasbro subsidiary Playskool issued a line named Transformers: Gobots in 2002.

That... has nothing to do with anything. And I affirmed what JelZe said in the first place as far as Bandai retaining the Machine Robo molds, so it doesn't incorporate anything new.

skywarp-2 wrote:So with the above information, it is possible for HASBRO TO PRODUCE THEIR OWN MOLDS FOR AN UPDATED RELEASE...

ONLY BANDAI OWNS THE ORIGINAL MOLDS...

My reissue dreams are dead, but a fully realized Voyager Leader-1 is still a possability.. someday...and Cy-Kill, ect... Bandai only controls the original Molds, they can do an updated version of those designs without any difficulty..

I never said Hasbro couldn't do that, if they were so inclined to such a bizarre idea as that.

Your last post, the portion I quoted, stated that Hasbro had reproduced the Gobots and they were already in the Transformers mythos. The fact that the Gobots and the Playskool line share the same line name - Gobots - doesn't make them related to Leader-1 and company. Reproductions have to be like the original to be reproductions in the first place. That's it.

News Credits: 5 · by **skywarp-2** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:01 am

Chosen wrote:
skywarp-2 wrote:ok just for the sake of argument and to also keep your brain from exploding I have compiled the information yee seek.. young Padawan...

Playskool Transformers Go-Bots was a kid line that was released some time ago that incorporated the name and a few Go-Bots names into their toyline.. now this not being a full fledged addition to the Original or at that time, running Transformers series, it did in fact exist, thus, the "Name" Gobots was introduced under the Transformers Banner.. Further more..
http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Go-Bots_(toyline)

This is no different that the figures we also know as Spy Changers being called Gobots in G2. And if you'd read the Teletraan-1 link you provided, you'd see no other original Gobot names either.

skywarp-2 wrote:Unlike Transformers, Gobots was released in several different guises around the world.

In the UK, France and a number of other European countries, Bandai released the figures as Robo Machine, utilising most of the Tonka names. Later on, when the Challenge of the Gobots cartoon arrived, this was changed, or modified (often resulting in clumsy branding such as Robo Machines featuring Challenge of the Gobots or Challenge of the Gobots - A Robo Machine Production).

In Australia, the line was released as Machine Men. The Machine Men name had been used also by Bandai in an item to market Machine Robo in America in early 1983, but after issuing six figures the line failed. However, Bandai's Australian release was successful enough to retain the Machine Men branding, which was even added to the cartoon when that began airing.

In Brazil, the line was initially produced by Glasslite as Mutante. The license was later taken over by Mimo.
It was also translated into Arabic and retitled Hikayat alamaliqa, or A Tale of Giants.

In Japan, Bandai opted to keep with the Machine Robo line, rather than importing the Gobots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobots

In 1991, Hasbro took over Tonka, and thus the Gobot trademarks; the molds for the action figures remain the property of Bandai, having only been leased to Tonka, and some were reissued in 1993 for the European Robo Machines line. Since then, these have been used several times – a character called Gobots was released in 1993, a range of figures in 1995 were called the Go-Bots, and Hasbro subsidiary Playskool issued a line named Transformers: Gobots in 2002.

That... has nothing to do with anything. And I affirmed what JelZe said in the first place as far as Bandai retaining the Machine Robo molds, so it doesn't incorporate anything new.

skywarp-2 wrote:So with the above information, it is possible for HASBRO TO PRODUCE THEIR OWN MOLDS FOR AN UPDATED RELEASE...

ONLY BANDAI OWNS THE ORIGINAL MOLDS...

My reissue dreams are dead, but a fully realized Voyager Leader-1 is still a possability.. someday...and Cy-Kill, ect... Bandai only controls the original Molds, they can do an updated version of those designs without any difficulty..

I never said Hasbro couldn't do that, if they were so inclined to such a bizarre idea as that.

Your last post, the portion I quoted, stated that Hasbro had reproduced the Gobots and they were already in the Transformers mythos. The fact that the Gobots and the Playskool line share the same line name - Gobots - doesn't make them related to Leader-1 and company. Reproductions have to be like the original to be reproductions in the first place. That's it.

ok, simply put, the name Gobots is a playskool line under the banner transfoemrs, Leader -1 was in Armada.. any way you look at it, name wise, Gobots has been added to the myhos..in a certain sense that is..

But yeah, I concedce, not int he way you are suggesting.. in a different format, but they are still a presense felt in the series..though disappointing...as minicons or some other crappy bots..

Ok, so look bare with me folks, this is the crappiest photoshop, but here was what I was suggesting be done to update Go-Bots and add them as a team to the Transformers in Voyager or deluxe sizes, with updated homages to the old designs..please use your imagination to understand where I'm coming from..

so without further adu I give you my Transformers Leader-1 concept:

Edit:

this is my up to date version:
:grin:

my design is pretty much based on thundercracker from cybertron.. it's not hard to make a leader one, but darn it.. Hasbro should give us updates to those characters.. especially the formula one racer.. the black one...

News Credits: 2 · by **tacogrande** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:08 am

Gobots rock, I love them. Rocklords are ok, I have 2. But part of Transformers? No. They should remain their own things. Reissuing them would be ok but sort of pointless. Just buy them off of eBay. I'd be down with making new ones but honestly all my money would be going to transformers classics over gobots. I like the ones I have though.

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:12 am

skywarp-2 wrote:
Chosen wrote:
skywarp-2 wrote:ok just for the sake of argument and to also keep your brain from exploding I have compiled the information yee seek.. young Padawan...

Playskool Transformers Go-Bots was a kid line that was released some time ago that incorporated the name and a few Go-Bots names into their toyline.. now this not being a full fledged addition to the Original or at that time, running Transformers series, it did in fact exist, thus, the "Name" Gobots was introduced under the Transformers Banner.. Further more..
http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Go-Bots_(toyline)

This is no different that the figures we also know as Spy Changers being called Gobots in G2. And if you'd read the Teletraan-1 link you provided, you'd see no other original Gobot names either.

skywarp-2 wrote:Unlike Transformers, Gobots was released in several different guises around the world.

In the UK, France and a number of other European countries, Bandai released the figures as Robo Machine, utilising most of the Tonka names. Later on, when the Challenge of the Gobots cartoon arrived, this was changed, or modified (often resulting in clumsy branding such as Robo Machines featuring Challenge of the Gobots or Challenge of the Gobots - A Robo Machine Production).

In Australia, the line was released as Machine Men. The Machine Men name had been used also by Bandai in an item to market Machine Robo in America in early 1983, but after issuing six figures the line failed. However, Bandai's Australian release was successful enough to retain the Machine Men branding, which was even added to the cartoon when that began airing.

In Brazil, the line was initially produced by Glasslite as Mutante. The license was later taken over by Mimo.
It was also translated into Arabic and retitled Hikayat alamaliqa, or A Tale of Giants.

In Japan, Bandai opted to keep with the Machine Robo line, rather than importing the Gobots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobots

In 1991, Hasbro took over Tonka, and thus the Gobot trademarks; the molds for the action figures remain the property of Bandai, having only been leased to Tonka, and some were reissued in 1993 for the European Robo Machines line. Since then, these have been used several times – a character called Gobots was released in 1993, a range of figures in 1995 were called the Go-Bots, and Hasbro subsidiary Playskool issued a line named Transformers: Gobots in 2002.

That... has nothing to do with anything. And I affirmed what JelZe said in the first place as far as Bandai retaining the Machine Robo molds, so it doesn't incorporate anything new.

skywarp-2 wrote:So with the above information, it is possible for HASBRO TO PRODUCE THEIR OWN MOLDS FOR AN UPDATED RELEASE...

ONLY BANDAI OWNS THE ORIGINAL MOLDS...

My reissue dreams are dead, but a fully realized Voyager Leader-1 is still a possability.. someday...and Cy-Kill, ect... Bandai only controls the original Molds, they can do an updated version of those designs without any difficulty..

I never said Hasbro couldn't do that, if they were so inclined to such a bizarre idea as that.

Your last post, the portion I quoted, stated that Hasbro had reproduced the Gobots and they were already in the Transformers mythos. The fact that the Gobots and the Playskool line share the same line name - Gobots - doesn't make them related to Leader-1 and company. Reproductions have to be like the original to be reproductions in the first place. That's it.

ok, simply put, the name Gobots is a playskool line under the banner transfoemrs, Leader -1 was in Armada.. any way you look at it, name wise, Gobots has been added to the myhos..in a certain sense that is..

But yeah, I concedce, not int he way you are suggesting.. in a different format, but they are still a presense felt in the series..though disappointing...as minicons or some other crappy bots..

Ok, so look bare with me folks, this is the crappiest photoshop, but here was what I was suggesting be done to update Go-Bots and add them as a team to the Transformers in Voyager or deluxe sizes, with updated homages to the old designs..please use your imagination to understand where I'm coming from..

so without further adu I give you my Transformers Leader-1 concept:

my design is pretty much based on thundercracker from cybertron.. it's not hard to make a leader one, but darn it.. Hasbro should give us updates to those characters.. especially the formula one racer.. the black one...

Crasher. One of the only three (and actually memorable) female Go-Bots.

Guardians:

Leader-1 (jet)
Turbo (red sportscar)*
Scooter (a...scooter, believe it or not)**
Littlefoot (4x4, second memorable female Go-Bot)

Renegades:

Cy-Kill (motorcycle)
Cop-Tur (helicopter)
Crasher (black gran prix racer)
Tank (a...tank, believe it or not)***
Fitor (space fighter)

*- Voiced by Arthur Burghardt, also the voice of Devastator.
**- Voiced by Frank Welker, also the voice of Megatron, Soundwave, God knows who else...
***- Voiced by Peter Cullen, also...ah, you know.

All of these need to be remade, now.

News Credits: 409 · by **Stormrider** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:14 am

I think the Rock Lords could be added to the TF comicbook line without doing too much harm. Throw them on their own planet.

by **zemper** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:24 am

skywarp-2 wrote:
Chosen wrote:
skywarp-2 wrote:ok just for the sake of argument and to also keep your brain from exploding I have compiled the information yee seek.. young Padawan...

Playskool Transformers Go-Bots was a kid line that was released some time ago that incorporated the name and a few Go-Bots names into their toyline.. now this not being a full fledged addition to the Original or at that time, running Transformers series, it did in fact exist, thus, the "Name" Gobots was introduced under the Transformers Banner.. Further more..
http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Go-Bots_(toyline)

This is no different that the figures we also know as Spy Changers being called Gobots in G2. And if you'd read the Teletraan-1 link you provided, you'd see no other original Gobot names either.

skywarp-2 wrote:Unlike Transformers, Gobots was released in several different guises around the world.

In the UK, France and a number of other European countries, Bandai released the figures as Robo Machine, utilising most of the Tonka names. Later on, when the Challenge of the Gobots cartoon arrived, this was changed, or modified (often resulting in clumsy branding such as Robo Machines featuring Challenge of the Gobots or Challenge of the Gobots - A Robo Machine Production).

In Australia, the line was released as Machine Men. The Machine Men name had been used also by Bandai in an item to market Machine Robo in America in early 1983, but after issuing six figures the line failed. However, Bandai's Australian release was successful enough to retain the Machine Men branding, which was even added to the cartoon when that began airing.

In Brazil, the line was initially produced by Glasslite as Mutante. The license was later taken over by Mimo.
It was also translated into Arabic and retitled Hikayat alamaliqa, or A Tale of Giants.

In Japan, Bandai opted to keep with the Machine Robo line, rather than importing the Gobots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobots

In 1991, Hasbro took over Tonka, and thus the Gobot trademarks; the molds for the action figures remain the property of Bandai, having only been leased to Tonka, and some were reissued in 1993 for the European Robo Machines line. Since then, these have been used several times – a character called Gobots was released in 1993, a range of figures in 1995 were called the Go-Bots, and Hasbro subsidiary Playskool issued a line named Transformers: Gobots in 2002.

That... has nothing to do with anything. And I affirmed what JelZe said in the first place as far as Bandai retaining the Machine Robo molds, so it doesn't incorporate anything new.

skywarp-2 wrote:So with the above information, it is possible for HASBRO TO PRODUCE THEIR OWN MOLDS FOR AN UPDATED RELEASE...

ONLY BANDAI OWNS THE ORIGINAL MOLDS...

My reissue dreams are dead, but a fully realized Voyager Leader-1 is still a possability.. someday...and Cy-Kill, ect... Bandai only controls the original Molds, they can do an updated version of those designs without any difficulty..

I never said Hasbro couldn't do that, if they were so inclined to such a bizarre idea as that.

Your last post, the portion I quoted, stated that Hasbro had reproduced the Gobots and they were already in the Transformers mythos. The fact that the Gobots and the Playskool line share the same line name - Gobots - doesn't make them related to Leader-1 and company. Reproductions have to be like the original to be reproductions in the first place. That's it.

ok, simply put, the name Gobots is a playskool line under the banner transfoemrs, Leader -1 was in Armada.. any way you look at it, name wise, Gobots has been added to the myhos..in a certain sense that is..

But yeah, I concedce, not int he way you are suggesting.. in a different format, but they are still a presense felt in the series..though disappointing...as minicons or some other crappy bots..

Ok, so look bare with me folks, this is the crappiest photoshop, but here was what I was suggesting be done to update Go-Bots and add them as a team to the Transformers in Voyager or deluxe sizes, with updated homages to the old designs..please use your imagination to understand where I'm coming from..

so without further adu I give you my Transformers Leader-1 concept:

my design is pretty much based on thundercracker from cybertron.. it's not hard to make a leader one, but darn it.. Hasbro should give us updates to those characters.. especially the formula one racer.. the black one...

LOL...this is funny...you actually put crosswise's head as stand in for leader-1. priceless. :lol:

excellent pic dude.

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:19 am

Can I just throw out there, that any effort Takara/Tomy might spend releasing these would be a supreme waste considering that the following have not been reissued:

Sunstreaker
Trailbreaker
Frenzy
Rumble
Ratbat
Cliffjumper
Omega Supreme
Constructicons
Technobots
Protectobots
Terrorcons
Downshift
Mirage
Wheeljack
Roadbuster
Delux Insecticons
Victory Leo
Star Saber
Deathsaurus
Combaticons
Octane
Eject
Rewind
Ramhorn
Scourge
Sharkticon
Springer
Ultra Magnus
Headmasters
Targetmasters
Fortress Maximus
Flywheels
Artfire...

and so on, and so on.

Now, not to be a party pooper or anything, but is the consensus that we'd rather see Go-Bots and Rocklords take up release slots and effort as opposed to these?

Just asking.

by **Starscream227** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:32 am

Stormrider wrote:I think the Rock Lords could be added to the TF comicbook line without doing too much harm. Throw them on their own planet.

I'd like to think there's a meteor joke in there, but I'm probably
just looking to hard.

It'd be a good one-shot, at least; The Decepticons pillage the
Rock Lords home, hoping to find resources, and find nothing.
The destroy the planet, leaving them without a home.

Eventually the bad ones side with the Decepticons after their
display of power, and the good ones side with the Autobots to
stop them.

Lame, yes, but thought out in like a minute.

Sue me.

News Credits: 5 · by **skywarp-2** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:55 am

Counterpunch wrote:Can I just throw out there, that any effort Takara/Tomy might spend releasing these would be a supreme waste considering that the following have not been reissued:

Sunstreaker
Trailbreaker
Frenzy
Rumble
Ratbat
Cliffjumper
Omega Supreme
Constructicons
Technobots
Protectobots
Terrorcons
Downshift
Mirage
Wheeljack
Roadbuster
Delux Insecticons
Victory Leo
Star Saber
Deathsaurus
Combaticons
Octane
Eject
Rewind
Ramhorn
Scourge
Sharkticon
Springer
Ultra Magnus
Headmasters
Targetmasters
Fortress Maximus
Flywheels
Artfire...

and so on, and so on.

Now, not to be a party pooper or anything, but is the consensus that we'd rather see Go-Bots and Rocklords take up release slots and effort as opposed to these?

Just asking.

Well actually I wouldn't mind seeing a few done up, like a good homage to Leader-1 and Cy-Kill and a couple that Autobot032 suggested.. since Hasbro can't reissue the original molds, it would be nice to see some of the original characters show up here and there in a nice homage to the old designs from the 80s...

I would like to see 3 done from each faction:

Autobots, "Guardians force" a team lead by Leader-1, Turbo, and Scooter..function, espionage, surveillance and defense.

Decepticons, "The Renegades" a team lead by Cy-Kill, Crasher, and Cop-Tor...function espionage, demolitions, and sabotage.

I see where your going with that question CP, but in all Honesty, alot of those bots got updates and releases in lots of other lines, including Alternators.. the Go-Bots updates have been long over due... these guys have been screwed with over and over, as a Playskool kids line, a minicon for Megatron.. you name it.. there really needs to be a good homage produced.. atleast if nothing else but to give us a good Leader-1 and Cy-Kill either in Classics 2.0, Transformers Universe, or the new Animated line up...but I'd like to see Leader-1 and Cy-Kill taken seriously as villains and heroes again...

If they can release a great homage to skyfire/Jetfire in Classics then why can't we have Leader-1 and Cy-Kill added to the mythos as troops under Prime and Megatron?? The Jet VS a Large Cybertronian Motorcycle, not so much different from the Semi Truck vs a Large Cybertronian Jet...

heck Crasher would be an awesome repaint for Classics Mirage, with a more feminine head sculpt, in Black and silver, and the female villain to mirage... that would be cool!!!

"Graphicbrat" on deviant art did a sweet updated design for her.. I love it!!!
http://graphicbrat.deviantart.com/gallery/

Here is the original cartoon image:

all I'm saying is the "Guardians" can be a sticker decal on the 3 from Gobots who get added as a special ops team under the Autobots, and get released as toys... the "Renegades" could be Megatron's special force team released under the Decepticon's Banner...and can have 3 as well....the factions would be similar to the redone versions of characters in Cybertron series who then became the "Cybertron defense force" either way Hasbro should make good use of their license, and give us Go-Bots fans a little homage to the older series, with up to date molds that mirror the original designs from Back in the day!!!

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:08 am

You know what I could fully support?

eHobby repaints as Go-Bots.

Want Cy-Kill?

Reissue Wreck-gar. Have the eHobby repaint be Cy-Kill.

That'll get my dollars.

News Credits: 5 · by **skywarp-2** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:09 am

Counterpunch wrote:You know what I could fully support?

eHobby repaints as Go-Bots.

Want Cy-Kill?

Reissue Wreck-gar. Have the eHobby repaint be Cy-Kill.

That'll get my dollars.

hmmm I'm gonna check out Wreckar in the Gallery section to see what you mean... hold on.. Be right back...

Shoot!!! no gallery here on seibertron.. had to go global on Google..

Ahhhhn I see... but he would need a new Head sculpt and some articualrtion updates and his chest as well...but overall not a bad choice for a base body...
http://www.unicron.us/tf1986/figures/wreckgar.htm

News Credits: 1082 · by **Tigertrack** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:09 pm

Stormrider wrote:I think the Rock Lords could be added to the TF comicbook line without doing too much harm. Throw them on their own planet.

The planet could be a giant rock lord!!!!!!!!

I say no gobots please. And if you make them large, and poseable, aren't they just Transformers than???

No gobots love here, sorry.

by **Starscream227** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:12 pm

tigertracks 24 wrote:
Stormrider wrote:I think the Rock Lords could be added to the TF comicbook line without doing too much harm. Throw them on their own planet.

The planet could be a giant rock lord!!!!!!!!

We've got one, though...

We call Him Primus.

by **Deceptiwho?** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:22 pm

I dont care what any of u think of this post really so Im just going to go ahead and say it I LOVE THE ROCKLORDS!!! There now that thats over with, Im so glad someone brought this up when I was a lil kid I had all of the freakin rock lords , even the diahrreah brown one and particularly the chrome one was one of my fav's , as far as the TF mythos combining with RLs....hmmm... possibly.. I think Unicron might have decended from like the god of the Rls hehe..

News Credits: 5 · by **skywarp-2** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:34 pm

tigertracks 24 wrote:
Stormrider wrote:I think the Rock Lords could be added to the TF comicbook line without doing too much harm. Throw them on their own planet.

The planet could be a giant rock lord!!!!!!!!

I say no gobots please. And if you make them large, and poseable, aren't they just Transformers than???

No gobots love here, sorry.

technically no, you see the Go-Bots originally were just small transformable bots, but as the line progressed they did make larger bots and poseable ones too.. though not anything able to take on the already popular Transformers of that time..But it's not the size and type of Transformable Go-Bot that is the definition of the series, but as with many fan followings, it's the characters.. and for me, seeing the original characters of, Leader-1, Turbo, Skooter, Cy-Kill, Crasher, and Cop-tor getting updated toys in ultimate HOMAGES TO WHO THEY WERE, and in a Voyager class size, would fill my Go-Bots need just fine...ofcourse my favorite next to any of them was the flying saucer!!! he looked like something from "Battle beyond the stars", which is a very old and little known low budget Sci-Fi flick, and starred John Boy from the Waltons, but had this cool flying saucer in it.. that looks almost like the one from Go-Bots design...

I forgot his name...oh, yeah Pathfinder!!!
http://www.toyarchive.com/Gobots/Regula ... inder.html

And you had to give it up for TUX, he was very cool and had an uppity English accent...he was a cool design, the first ever royals royce transformable toy!!!
http://www.toyarchive.com/Gobots/Regular/Tux.html

I also loved the Monster Go-Bots:

Vamp:
http://www.toyarchive.com/Gobots/Regular/Vamp.html

Pincher: http://www.toyarchive.com/Gobots/Regular/Pincher.html

Scorp:
http://www.toyarchive.com/Gobots/Regular/Scorp.html

Creepy:
http://www.toyarchive.com/Gobots/Regular/Creepy.html

Blades:
http://www.toyarchive.com/Gobots/Regular/Bladez.html

News Credits: 1082 · by **Tigertrack** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:31 pm

Think I had a Pincher at one point. He and Jeeper Creeper were my only ones (I think), although I am quite sure I played with other ones through friends and so forth.

This thread has put that theme song in my head...

Cool yes, but not currently in my realm of collector desirability.

by **lanzajr26** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:39 pm

I still have Pathfinder. I found him hiding among my old Hot Wheels

And Skywarp-2, that pic of Crasher is sweet! That's probably the only GoBot I'd actually try to find on eBay now, was my favorite one as a kid.

News Credits: 5 · by **skywarp-2** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:51 pm

lanzajr26 wrote:I still have Pathfinder. I found him hiding among my old Hot Wheels

And Skywarp-2, that pic of Crasher is sweet! That's probably the only GoBot I'd actually try to find on eBay now, was my favorite one as a kid.

yeah crasher deserves to be a kitbash of classics Mirage and as a Decepticon chick..she'd be an awesome villainess!!! the ultimate answer to Arcee..

good luck on your eBay find.. :grin:

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:53 pm

skywarp-2 wrote:
lanzajr26 wrote:I still have Pathfinder. I found him hiding among my old Hot Wheels

And Skywarp-2, that pic of Crasher is sweet! That's probably the only GoBot I'd actually try to find on eBay now, was my favorite one as a kid.

yeah crasher deserves to be a kitbash of classics Mirage and as a Decepticon chick..she'd be an awesome villainess!!! the ultimate answer to Arcee..

good luck on your eBay find..

A Transformer that turns into 'the stairs' could easily defeat both of them.

Lord forgive me for that joke... :oops:

by **lanzajr26** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:20 pm

Counterpunch wrote:
skywarp-2 wrote:
lanzajr26 wrote:I still have Pathfinder. I found him hiding among my old Hot Wheels

And Skywarp-2, that pic of Crasher is sweet! That's probably the only GoBot I'd actually try to find on eBay now, was my favorite one as a kid.

yeah crasher deserves to be a kitbash of classics Mirage and as a Decepticon chick..she'd be an awesome villainess!!! the ultimate answer to Arcee..

good luck on your eBay find..

A Transformer that turns into 'the stairs' could easily defeat both of them.

Lord forgive me for that joke...

That was actually pretty damn funny

News Credits: 5 · by **skywarp-2** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:41 pm

lanzajr26 wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
skywarp-2 wrote:
lanzajr26 wrote:I still have Pathfinder. I found him hiding among my old Hot Wheels

And Skywarp-2, that pic of Crasher is sweet! That's probably the only GoBot I'd actually try to find on eBay now, was my favorite one as a kid.

yeah crasher deserves to be a kitbash of classics Mirage and as a Decepticon chick..she'd be an awesome villainess!!! the ultimate answer to Arcee..

good luck on your eBay find..

A Transformer that turns into 'the stairs' could easily defeat both of them.

Lord forgive me for that joke...

That was actually pretty damn funny

that "was" funny....

here is my crasher concept

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:46 pm

skywarp-2 wrote:
lanzajr26 wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
skywarp-2 wrote:
lanzajr26 wrote:I still have Pathfinder. I found him hiding among my old Hot Wheels

And Skywarp-2, that pic of Crasher is sweet! That's probably the only GoBot I'd actually try to find on eBay now, was my favorite one as a kid.

yeah crasher deserves to be a kitbash of classics Mirage and as a Decepticon chick..she'd be an awesome villainess!!! the ultimate answer to Arcee..

good luck on your eBay find..

A Transformer that turns into 'the stairs' could easily defeat both of them.

Lord forgive me for that joke...

That was actually pretty damn funny

that "was" funny....

here is my crasher concept