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viruscarnage wrote:Sabrblade wrote:It baffles me to no end as to how anyone could possibly consider something like Armada to be objectively superior to something like Animated.
It doesn't surprise me, if they watched Armada 10 years ago when they were a kid, it would hold a special place in their heart. This is of course assuming they are pretty young, and Armada being their first exposure to Transformers.
Bumblevivisector wrote:viruscarnage wrote:Sabrblade wrote:It baffles me to no end as to how anyone could possibly consider something like Armada to be objectively superior to something like Animated.
Deathscythetransform wrote:Bumblevivisector wrote:viruscarnage wrote:Sabrblade wrote:It baffles me to no end as to how anyone could possibly consider something like Armada to be objectively superior to something like Animated.
and it baffles me to no end as to how anyone cant respect other peoples' opinions:
I hated Animated because to the style of the designs. I works nicely with teen titans, but giving a chin a mile long to starscreamis still a bad move for me. I've tried real hard to watch Animated, and though the stories were entertaining, and the humour nicely done, visually it was uttely ugly for me.
A lot of people loved the series and THAT IS FINE' I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT AT ALL
sure the unicron trilogy was poorly received in the west of the globe but the style of animation wasbeautifully executed, the robots well detailed and the Minicon's gimmick was well thought, though sometimes poorly executed.
I was in my 20's when armada was released, and when Energon was released, I was a bit dissapointed. As for Cybertron, its just a series into itself ans shouldn't have been included in the unicron trilogy.
its just my opinion... after all, I'm just a Transformers fan who likes different stuff...
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
I used the word "objectively", meaning I wasn't referring to opinions. Had I used the word "subjectively" then I would have been, but I was not.Deathscythetransform wrote:and it baffles me to no end as to how anyone cant respect other peoples' opinions:
But it was the best part of the trilogy.Deathscythetransform wrote:As for Cybertron, its just a series into itself ans shouldn't have been included in the unicron trilogy.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Which were filled in with additional dialogue to liven up the dead air.Deathscythetransform wrote:Cyberton was kinda annoying with the repetitive transformation sequences
Are you referring to the "art style"? Cuz that did look good.Deathscythetransform wrote:and yeah armada was beautifully executed to my opinion.
The only non-Mini-Con toy in the whole toyline that was really up to par with the levels of articulation set by the toyline's post-1994 predecessors (other toys came close, but lacked things like knees or elbows or rotating waists, etc.).Deathscythetransform wrote:the 1st series ever that gave us a true unicron toy
And how many years has it been since you watched the cartoon?gothsaurus wrote:the kids weren't annoying,
That he mostly just stood still and did nothing for.gothsaurus wrote:we got an epic battle with Unicron...
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Kicker was more "spiteful" than "annoying". He evoked more feeling of hatred than mere irritation.gothsaurus wrote:well. I meant not annoying next to Kicker's whining.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
That wasn't a complement about him from me.gothsaurus wrote:Oh yeah. I liked Fred. Guess it's time to re-watch.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
The awesome one can't be "watched", only "read", for it is the Armada Dreamwave comics.Dead Metal wrote:OK, now I'm convinced that there must be two Armadas, the one you've been watching that was awesome, and the one I watched with animation that got so bad it made G1 look like Disney animation, children that made me miss Daniel, terrible plots, and fight scenes that looked like they worked on Final Fantasy "I'll patiently stand here and wait my turn to attack you" logic.
Man, I want to watch your Armada, where can I get that?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:The awesome one can't be "watched", only "read", for it is the Armada Dreamwave comics.Dead Metal wrote:OK, now I'm convinced that there must be two Armadas, the one you've been watching that was awesome, and the one I watched with animation that got so bad it made G1 look like Disney animation, children that made me miss Daniel, terrible plots, and fight scenes that looked like they worked on Final Fantasy "I'll patiently stand here and wait my turn to attack you" logic.
Man, I want to watch your Armada, where can I get that?
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
Well, there is also the PS2 video game that was both awesome and had really good animation.Dead Metal wrote:Yea those are pretty good, but comics aren't animated and we've heard how beautiful the animation of that awesome Armada version is so I would like to share the experience.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
How is Armada better than Cybertron? The latter actually had memorable characters with personalities, multiple ongoing plotlines, definitive story arcs with clear defined objectives, a higher level of hand drawn animation, voice acting that sounded like the actors had a better grasp on their roles, writing that was competent enough to work with the material they had, and best of all, no hasty rushing to meet unreasonable deadlines.gothsaurus wrote:Yeah the game and comic do help sway in the favor of Armada out of the three. And agreed, it's only "good" taken in context of being the best of the three in the "trilogy."
I liked him better when he was Eddy in Ed, Edd, n' Eddy. He didn't whine every five minutes.gothsaurus wrote:But come on. Fred had some great lines, like that one about "my mom says I have a glandular problem." Comedy gold!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Hmm... Never thought to compare the Armada comics or video game to the Cybertron cartoon. Will have to think on that one.gothsaurus wrote:Well, for one ... the comics and video game were better.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
gothsaurus wrote:Yeah, I think I was just happily surprised by the G1-ish animation ... after so many seasons less-expressive CGI. But you're right, there's a lot that was better about Cybertron. At least we can all agree Energon was NOT the best of the three (??) Ha ha ha.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
Yeah, the Beast Era's CGI was very expressive. It was the CG of Energon, RobotMasters, and Cybertron that was anything but (most of the time).Dead Metal wrote:gothsaurus wrote:Yeah, I think I was just happily surprised by the G1-ish animation ... after so many seasons less-expressive CGI. But you're right, there's a lot that was better about Cybertron. At least we can all agree Energon was NOT the best of the three (??) Ha ha ha.
Rampage had more and better expressions than any of the characters in any of the Unicron Trilogy.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
The first I could see happening very easily.Seibertron wrote:Ryan's wishlist:
Transformers Animated Box Set
Beast Wars II
Beast Wars Neo
Robots In Disguise (I've already got the UK DVDs, but it would be awesome for everyone to get this too)
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, the Beast Era's CGI was very expressive. It was the CG of Energon, RobotMasters, and Cybertron that was anything but (most of the time).Dead Metal wrote:gothsaurus wrote:Yeah, I think I was just happily surprised by the G1-ish animation ... after so many seasons less-expressive CGI. But you're right, there's a lot that was better about Cybertron. At least we can all agree Energon was NOT the best of the three (??) Ha ha ha.
Rampage had more and better expressions than any of the characters in any of the Unicron Trilogy.
Observe this the scene from its beginning to its end (at the 5:00 mark) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=eIRanMWh9nE#t=186
Take notice of the facial and body feature expressions. Eye movement, mouth shapes, blinking, shoulder positions, head positions, motion and position of the arms; the overall body kinesthetics of these two is astounding for mere 1998 CG, on par with today's work.
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