This page contains affiliate links. We may earn commissions when readers interact with or purchase items through these links. For more information, see our affiliate disclosures here.

Some help-should I fix it or leave it be?

Feel free to discuss anything about any of the thousands of Transformer toys here. Anything from Generation 1 all the way to the soon to be released, the never to be released or the hope to be released is fair game! Want to show off your stuff? Please post your's and see others in the Transformers Collections Forum.

Some help-should I fix it or leave it be?

Postby Nemesis Destron » Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:09 pm

Motto: ""So you see evil will always triumph over good, because good is dumb!""
Weapon: Dual-Sonic Disrupter Gun
I'm planning on selling some G1 transformers to a friend but I came across an issue. This friend is a member so I'd rather not identify the figures you see. The first TF has a break and it's so clean a break that gluing it would be perfect and simple almost not worth mentioning. Should I fix it and tell him or not tell him and fix it? If I don't fix it and give him the chance to be the one to fix it I'm hoping that don't affect the price I'm asking due to condition.

I appreciate everyone's comments and assistance, thanks. :VEHI:
Nemesis Destron
Gestalt
Posts: 2688
News Credits: 2
Joined: Sat Apr 04, 2009 5:43 pm
Location: OC So-Cal

Re: Some help-should I fix it or leave it be?

Postby GuyIncognito » Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:12 pm

You're asking us if you should intentionally deceive a fellow collector for your own selfish benefit? *shakes head in disbelief*

Whether you fix it or not, you have an obligation to be honest about the condition of the figure you're selling.

Just the fact that you would even CONSIDER this is troubling.
User avatar
GuyIncognito
Faction Commander
Posts: 4722
News Credits: 12
Joined: Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:06 am
Location: Bucks County, Pennsylvania
Buy from GuyIncognito on eBay

Re: Some help-should I fix it or leave it be?

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:24 pm

Motto: "My past no longer binds my future..."
Weapon: Battle Blades
Tell your friend the truth and lower the price accordingly. There's no grey here, it's a matter of telling the truth or lying. I had to work with someone for a while who pulled this thing all the time. Just think if it happened to you.
Got news for Seibertron? Share it here!
ZeroWolf
News Admin
Posts: 14116
News Credits: 1350
Joined: Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:58 am
Location: North East UK

Re: Some help-should I fix it or leave it be?

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:38 pm

Motto: "The only good is knowledge, and the only evil is ignorance."
Communication, and honesty is the best policy in this case.

You will have to settle for a lower price either way because of the defect, because he will find out about it sooner or later. Be clear and open about it, ask him if he still wants it despite the defect, and above all, offer to fix it, emphasis on "offer". That shows that you recognise the defect and that you're willing to remedy it for him which will earn you brownie points for future sales. :)

Here are some personal experiences of mine:

+ I once bought a PCC Salvage from a fellow member, with a very loose elbow joint. He told me that in advance, so I knew what I was getting into, and I was perfectly fine with it as I can easily fix it.
- In the very beginning of my collecting days, I bought a second-hand G1 Rocket Base with Countdown. Noticed it was incomplete (white robotic claw was missing), so we punched the original selling price down. Much later on, I noticed that the blue scout vehicle had one of its pegs broken off and glued back on. Not something I wanted to see, but to be expected with a toy that old.
- I traded a figure (I believe it was United Scrap Iron?) for a TakaraTomy Camaro Concept Bumblebee and a loose Classics Cliffjumper years back. He's a kitbasher and didn't have any real plans for ol'Cliffy despite having taken him apart. Fine, he was put back together, trading was done, all fine and dandy. A few months later, his hitch broke off, and it wasn't the first time as I saw glue residue on the break. I'll have to hunt for a junker and pray I can learn how to knock out pins, even then it's a doozy consider how integrated the backpack is. :BANG_HEAD:
The resident Rewind... well, half of one :lol:

- Jelze Bunnycat =:3

Looking for:
- TR Furos (Hardhead's head) and Crashbash (lost him :()
- PotP Punch head
- TR Galvatron right arm (the gun one)
- CW Brake-Neck/UW Wildrider, CW Offroad
- TR Twinferno & Grotusque
- Greenlight, Lancer and PotP Elita-1 (plus repro Victorion hands and feet?)
User avatar
Jelze Bunnycat
God Of Transformers
Posts: 19375
News Credits: 241
Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:45 am
Location: McKinney, Texas, USA; Delft, the Netherlands
Strength: 5
Intelligence: 9
Speed: 8
Endurance: 7
Rank: 1
Courage: 8
Skill: 5

Re: Some help-should I fix it or leave it be?

Postby Mr O » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:05 pm

Motto: ""No way out but through.""
Weapon: No Weapon
This must be a wind-up. The answer is simple, you even refer to the buyer as a friend. Even if he was a stranger, this -

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Be clear and open about it, ask him if he still wants it despite the defect, and above all, offer to fix it, emphasis on "offer".


Do the decent thing.
"It's 1973, almost dinnertime. I'm havin' hoops!"
User avatar
Mr O
Brainmaster
Posts: 1302
News Credits: 5
Joined: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:03 am
Location: Darkmount, Gwent
Strength: N/A
Intelligence: N/A
Speed: N/A
Endurance: ???
Rank: N/A
Courage: N/A
Firepower: N/A
Skill: 10+

Re: Some help-should I fix it or leave it be?

Postby MightyMagnus78 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:09 pm

Motto: ""Consistency is victory.""
Weapon: Shoulder Mounted Rocket Launcher
Honesty is always the best policy, especially if there's the potentially to sour a friendship.
Image
User avatar
MightyMagnus78
Godmaster
Posts: 1695
News Credits: 1
Joined: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:35 pm
Location: Cannock, Staffordshire, England
Alt Mode: Truck
Strength: 9
Intelligence: 9
Speed: 6
Endurance: 8
Rank: 8
Courage: 9
Firepower: 6
Skill: 8

Re: Some help-should I fix it or leave it be?

Postby fenrir72 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:28 pm

Motto: "Power to the strong and the right!"
Weapon: Plasma Cannon
I once purchased a near mint loose G1 Wheeljack pre rub figure from ebay. Didn't have the missiles nor the wings.The vendor is from the US of A.

Trouble is, the vendor only posted 1 side of him and didn't show the paint chip of the right side.

Aside from this it was near perfect. I did not shame the vendor with a 1 star rating because there was a bit of misrepresentation but I did make contact and gave him a piece of my mind. I'd have bought the fig just the same, maybe ask for a lower price due to its condition.

If I'd have returned it back, I'd be on the losing end 'cause I'd still pay for the S/H back correct?

Same thing too when I got from ebay a loose G1 complete, fairly mint Countdown from the Netherlands. Won it via bidding in ebay but the vendor didn't present the rocket as it should. An almost perfect half of the rocket had the expected discoloration.

Again I deferred putting a 1 star to the vendor. Again a bit of misrepresentation and if I was an @ss hole, had reported him to the world and killed his name. I didn't but made contact to him not to do so again as the item was in a real great condition aside from Countdown having worn decals (that was pictured and expected). If I'd have sent it back, again, I'd be losing in S/H.

Moral? Vendors.............PLEASE be honest! Don't scalp if you know the figure has "defects". Profit is good but not too high if your item isn't perfect.
User avatar
fenrir72
God Of Transformers
Posts: 10540
News Credits: 60
Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:37 am
Location: SEA
Buy from fenrir72 on eBay
Alt Mode: Mobile Ground Fortress
Strength: 9
Intelligence: 9
Speed: 6
Endurance: 10+
Rank: 9
Courage: 10
Firepower: 8
Skill: 9

Re: Some help-should I fix it or leave it be?

Postby bvzxa » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:46 pm

Motto: "Power flows to the one who knows how. Desire alone is not enough!!"
Weapon: Fusion Cannon
Honesty when selling figures will get you more sales then being shiesty. It builds trust to state what is wrong with the figure that way the buyer is informed and if he buys it there is no love loss.
For Transformer reviews go here
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxjhKsyGeEojzF_1gfC9yEg
For video games and transformers blog go here
http://greattransformersandvideogamesblog.blogspot.com/
bvzxa
Godmaster
Posts: 1634
News Credits: 3
Joined: Sun Mar 06, 2005 8:54 pm
Watch bvzxa on YouTube
Buy from bvzxa on eBay
Strength: 10
Intelligence: 10
Speed: 10
Endurance: 10
Rank: ???
Courage: 10
Firepower: 10
Skill: 10

Re: Some help-should I fix it or leave it be?

Postby Fox Thiagarajan » Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:01 pm

Motto: "Our greatest resource is each other."
Weapon: Snow Laser
Just be upfront and honest. I
Fox Thiagarajan
Pretender
Posts: 731
Joined: Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:46 am
Alt Mode: Red Mazda 343
Strength: 8
Intelligence: 7
Speed: 9
Endurance: 9
Rank: 3
Courage: 9
Firepower: 7
Skill: 7

Re: Some help-should I fix it or leave it be?

Postby Nemesis Destron » Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:06 am

Motto: ""So you see evil will always triumph over good, because good is dumb!""
Weapon: Dual-Sonic Disrupter Gun
I want to thank all of you for your comments on this, it is what I asked for and that is what I got. I stand by my statement and I will say that my intentions were good despite my thoughts. Regardless everyone is entitled to their own POV and opinion.

The way I see it if a person found a large amount of money in a bag the majority would do what is moral. I don't see anything wrong if that person who found it had thoughts or ideas on what they could do with it, while still doing what is right. I think it is only natural and no one should think less of that person who found it for having such thoughts. I'm not a human behavior expert by any means but that's how I see it, thanks again everybody. :VEHI:
Nemesis Destron
Gestalt
Posts: 2688
News Credits: 2
Joined: Sat Apr 04, 2009 5:43 pm
Location: OC So-Cal


Return to Transformers Toys Discussion

Transformers and More @ The Seibertron Store

Visit our store on eBay
These are affiliate links. We may earn commissions when you purchase items or services through these links.
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "WHEELJACK Transformers Cyberverse Tiny Turbo Changers Series 4 Hasbro 2020 New"
WHEELJACK Transfor ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "BOTARAZZI Transformers BotBots Con Crew Meet N Greets camera 2019"
BOTARAZZI Transfor ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "COFFEEMUS PRIME Transformers BotBots Con Crew Fantastic Fuelers coffee cup 2019"
COFFEEMUS PRIME Tr ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "SWOONBERRY Transformers BotBots Series 3 Sugar Shocks dessert 2019"
SWOONBERRY Transfo ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "FOMO Transformers BotBots Series 1 Techie Team sports camera Hasbro 2018"
FOMO Transformers ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "OPTIMUS PRIME Transformers Cyberverse Tiny Turbo Changers Series 1 2019 New"
OPTIMUS PRIME Tran ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "SILVERBOLT Transformers Cyberverse Tiny Turbo Changers Series 2 2019 Hasbro New"
SILVERBOLT Transfo ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "TIDY TRUNKSKY Transformers BotBots Series 5 Frequent Flyers suitcase Hasbro 2020"
TIDY TRUNKSKY Tran ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "LATTE SPICE WHIRL Transformers BotBots Series 3 Fresh Squeezes Pumpkin Spice"
LATTE SPICE WHIRL ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "KNOTZEL Transformers BotBots Series 3 Arcade Renegades pretzel 2019"
KNOTZEL Transforme ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "TANGRY TART Transformers BotBots Series 3 Arcade Renegades sour lollipop 2019"
TANGRY TART Transf ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "CHEF NADA Transformers BotBots Series 4 Los Deliciosos Hasbro 2020 empanada"
CHEF NADA Transfor ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "HOUND Transformers Kre-o Battle Changer Building Toy Hasbro 2015 New"
HOUND Transformers ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "SUGAR BREATH Transformers BotBots Series 3 Season Greeters candy corn 2019"
SUGAR BREATH Trans ...
* Price and quantities subject to change. Shipping costs, taxes and other fees not included in cost shown. Refer to listing for current price and availability.
Find the items above and thousands more at the Seibertron Store on eBay
Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #352 - Revenge of Buzzsaw
Twincast / Podcast #352:
"Revenge of Buzzsaw"
MP3 · iTunes · RSS · View · Discuss · Ask
Posted: Saturday, June 15th, 2024

Featured Products on Amazon.com

These are affiliate links. We may earn commissions when you purchase items or services through these links.
Buy "Transformers Authentics Optimus Prime" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers MPM-03 Movie 10th Anniversary Figure Bumblebee" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers: Generations Power of The Primes Legends Class Autobot Outback" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers: Generations Power of the Primes Titan Class Predaking" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers: Generations Power of The Primes Deluxe Class Dinobot Swoop" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers: Generations Power of The Primes Leader Evolution Optimus Prime" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Titans Return Titan Class Trypticon" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Studio Series Number 14 Voyager Class Autobot Ironhide" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers: Bumblebee -- Energon Igniters Speed Series Barricade" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Titans Return Decepticon Krok and Gatorface" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Titans Return Titan Master Grax and Skullsmasher" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Studio Series 06 Voyager Class Movie 1 Starscream" on AMAZON