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Stormwolf wrote: Springer would be more evenly matched against Slag IMO.
I think this one i agree with the most. Being the best trained by Kup in some continuities, and leading the wreckers in others, i feel better giving Springer more credibility than Hotrod. Grimlock may have the experience and endurance advantage but with Springers speed and intellegence there is a lot that can happen.The J Writer wrote:Springer isn't so much a wimp as everyone seems to think. Look at his stats, for one thing. He's among the strongest of all Autobots, probably behind only Prime, Grimmy, and a handful of others (Fort Max, for one). His melee skills, while not quite as good as Grim's, are nothing to sneeze at, nor the rest of his abilities. In terms of how nasty and tough he is, think Cyclonus or someone similar. He would defeat any of the four other Dinos in a one-on-one bout, and give Grimlock quite a run for his money. Not beat him, but do far better than it seems people are giving him credit for.
He didn't get to be the leader of the Wreckers just because he's a nice guy everyone likes. That's like being in charge of the Delta Force in the U.S. Army - you've gotta be able to walk the walk as well as talk the talk.
U^2 wrote:swoop is really underrated, but hed lose to springer too. if you took at their tech specs and factor in speed, strength, firepower and everything else but rank, swoop comes second to grimlock. he doesnt have any 9's or 10's, but he doesnt have a serious speed impediment, and his durability is still listed as 9. in a physical fight against the other dinobots hes at a serious disadvantage, but before hed brought to ground he should be able to do a decent amount of damage to them to even the odds.
AxiomScion wrote:I think this one i agree with the most. Being the best trained by Kup in some continuities, and leading the wreckers in others, i feel better giving Springer more credibility than Hotrod. Grimlock may have the experience and endurance advantage but with Springers speed and intellegence there is a lot that can happen.The J Writer wrote:Springer isn't so much a wimp as everyone seems to think. Look at his stats, for one thing. He's among the strongest of all Autobots, probably behind only Prime, Grimmy, and a handful of others (Fort Max, for one). His melee skills, while not quite as good as Grim's, are nothing to sneeze at, nor the rest of his abilities. In terms of how nasty and tough he is, think Cyclonus or someone similar. He would defeat any of the four other Dinos in a one-on-one bout, and give Grimlock quite a run for his money. Not beat him, but do far better than it seems people are giving him credit for.
He didn't get to be the leader of the Wreckers just because he's a nice guy everyone likes. That's like being in charge of the Delta Force in the U.S. Army - you've gotta be able to walk the walk as well as talk the talk.U^2 wrote:swoop is really underrated, but hed lose to springer too. if you took at their tech specs and factor in speed, strength, firepower and everything else but rank, swoop comes second to grimlock. he doesnt have any 9's or 10's, but he doesnt have a serious speed impediment, and his durability is still listed as 9. in a physical fight against the other dinobots hes at a serious disadvantage, but before hed brought to ground he should be able to do a decent amount of damage to them to even the odds.
I'm an avid Swoop fan myself, on the ground i'ld expect him to scrap many seekers individually, his wings are just too fragile for a dogfight.
AxiomScion wrote:While Grimlock isn't exactly dumb, and i never said he was, he's not known for exploiting his intellegence. Springer is a creative new comer and smarter than the Dinobot leader. While it doesn't garuntee a win, it should warrant the possibility of one.
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