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Shockwave7 wrote:I'll take a stab at it. The part where you said "The art, animation, and characters were poor as it was." and in the same breath lumping TFA with the statement that Hasbro 'wants to take the transformers forward, not backwards'. Sounded like quite the knock there, no? You may not have intended it that way, but it kind of sounded like it.
Sabrblade wrote:PrymeStriker wrote:Shockwave7 wrote:Daaaah, gee Hasbro - I donno - ya think maybe you should bring back TRANSFORMERS ANIMATED?????
God no.
The art, animation, and characters were poor as it was.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
Sabrblade wrote:I was hooked by the end of the second episode.ScoutBumblebee wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Well, I'm 23 and have no kids, yet I enjoy Rescue Bots far more than I ever did TF: Prime (and I do really like TF: Prime a lot). Needless to say, I'm anxious for season 2.ScoutBumblebee wrote:Rescue Bots is fun to watch... With my kids. But I wouldn't watch it without them, like I do Prime. So we shall see what the new series brings.
I actually do rather like Rescue Bots. I guess my post didn't quite come off that way. But I'm a good bit older than you, and I can say for sure it took RB a bit to grow on me. The first couple I watched with my son, I had a total GEEWUN purist moment where I was like, "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! WHAT HAS BECOME OF MY PRECIOUS TRANSFORMERS?!" But the more I watched, the more I was sucked in and really started enjoying it. I'm quite looking forward to season 2, too. I look for a concrete release date every day, ha! It's just... Different. And if I look at it as different, it works for me. It's meant to be silly, light hearted, not heavy. And that's OK.
In all honesty, those two episodes accomplished far more in my eyes than all five episodes of "Darkness Rising" (one of the worst series openers I've ever seen, IMHO) did.
ScoutBumblebee wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I was hooked by the end of the second episode.ScoutBumblebee wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Well, I'm 23 and have no kids, yet I enjoy Rescue Bots far more than I ever did TF: Prime (and I do really like TF: Prime a lot). Needless to say, I'm anxious for season 2.ScoutBumblebee wrote:Rescue Bots is fun to watch... With my kids. But I wouldn't watch it without them, like I do Prime. So we shall see what the new series brings.
I actually do rather like Rescue Bots. I guess my post didn't quite come off that way. But I'm a good bit older than you, and I can say for sure it took RB a bit to grow on me. The first couple I watched with my son, I had a total GEEWUN purist moment where I was like, "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! WHAT HAS BECOME OF MY PRECIOUS TRANSFORMERS?!" But the more I watched, the more I was sucked in and really started enjoying it. I'm quite looking forward to season 2, too. I look for a concrete release date every day, ha! It's just... Different. And if I look at it as different, it works for me. It's meant to be silly, light hearted, not heavy. And that's OK.
In all honesty, those two episodes accomplished far more in my eyes than all five episodes of "Darkness Rising" (one of the worst series openers I've ever seen, IMHO) did.
Well, we watched out of order at first. Little boy caught sight of it on Netflix and was all about watching, so he picked an episode and went with it. I watched off and on, and just kind of thought, "Meh, not good at all!" But when I actually sat down to watch, it did hook me after an episode or two. Prime... I have to agree. I had to persevere hard core to get through the first 5-6 episodes of season one. I really wanted to get into it, but it took some work. I did get to the point where I looked forward to watching, but when I think about it, yeah, I guess I find RB an "easier" watch than Prime. And I do like Prime. Oooh, I fear I am babbling. Let me hit submit before I say too many random things.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
PrymeStriker wrote:ScoutBumblebee wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I was hooked by the end of the second episode.ScoutBumblebee wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Well, I'm 23 and have no kids, yet I enjoy Rescue Bots far more than I ever did TF: Prime (and I do really like TF: Prime a lot). Needless to say, I'm anxious for season 2.ScoutBumblebee wrote:Rescue Bots is fun to watch... With my kids. But I wouldn't watch it without them, like I do Prime. So we shall see what the new series brings.
I actually do rather like Rescue Bots. I guess my post didn't quite come off that way. But I'm a good bit older than you, and I can say for sure it took RB a bit to grow on me. The first couple I watched with my son, I had a total GEEWUN purist moment where I was like, "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! WHAT HAS BECOME OF MY PRECIOUS TRANSFORMERS?!" But the more I watched, the more I was sucked in and really started enjoying it. I'm quite looking forward to season 2, too. I look for a concrete release date every day, ha! It's just... Different. And if I look at it as different, it works for me. It's meant to be silly, light hearted, not heavy. And that's OK.
In all honesty, those two episodes accomplished far more in my eyes than all five episodes of "Darkness Rising" (one of the worst series openers I've ever seen, IMHO) did.
Well, we watched out of order at first. Little boy caught sight of it on Netflix and was all about watching, so he picked an episode and went with it. I watched off and on, and just kind of thought, "Meh, not good at all!" But when I actually sat down to watch, it did hook me after an episode or two. Prime... I have to agree. I had to persevere hard core to get through the first 5-6 episodes of season one. I really wanted to get into it, but it took some work. I did get to the point where I looked forward to watching, but when I think about it, yeah, I guess I find RB an "easier" watch than Prime. And I do like Prime. Oooh, I fear I am babbling. Let me hit submit before I say too many random things.
Seems I'm in the outfield as usual.
Took me the pilot alone to get hooked on Prime. In fact, I wasn't keeping up with Transformers in 2010, so technically TFP brought me back into the franchise. Still think it's the best Transformers cartoon to date.
Meanwhile, I didn't even finish watching episode two of RB during its back-to-back premiere. Got far too bored, and I was really excited to see it. To this day I still haven't watched more than five episodes worth of that cartoon. Sorry.
Which were awesome.PrymeStriker wrote:Virtually everyone has giant chins
Which was homaged in TF: Prime.PrymeStriker wrote:Disproportionate body parts in a few instances, mostly with bigger bots.
Because animation errors are totally unheard of in TF cartoons.PrymeStriker wrote:The animation was ironically not the best quality. I could pick a random episode and pick out multiple instances when the animators got lazy and made subtle movements rather choppy. There were a couple of times at the beginning "Predacons Rising" were Sentinel Prime suffered dearly.
Fixed that for ya.PrymeStriker wrote:Wonderful characters everywhere:
Bumblebee
Bulkhead
Sentinel Prime
Sari (while developed well)
Lugnut
Sentinel Prime
Jetfire
Jetstorm
All of those damn human villains
Sentinel Prime
Opinion, not fact.PrymeStriker wrote:Since season three was the only remotely decent season, Transformers Animated was mediocre at best.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Which were awesome.PrymeStriker wrote:Virtually everyone has giant chins
Which was homaged in TF: Prime.PrymeStriker wrote:Disproportionate body parts in a few instances, mostly with bigger bots.
Because animation errors are totally unheard of in TF cartoons.PrymeStriker wrote:The animation was ironically not the best quality. I could pick a random episode and pick out multiple instances when the animators got lazy and made subtle movements rather choppy. There were a couple of times at the beginning "Predacons Rising" were Sentinel Prime suffered dearly.
Ruined that for ya.PrymeStriker wrote:Wonderful characters everywhere:
Bumblebee
Bulkhead
Sentinel Prime
Sari (while developed well)
Lugnut
Sentinel Prime
Jetfire
Jetstorm
All of those damn human villains
Sentinel Prime
Well, maybe not Sentinel and certainly not all of the human villains,
but the former was a guy we loved to hate
and the latter weren't important
Opinion, not fact.PrymeStriker wrote:Since season three was the only remotely decent season, Transformers Animated was mediocre at best.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
But they did.Dead Metal wrote:Animated was a great show and I wish they would have finished off the 4th and final season, and given us Animated Beachcomber, he just looked so dope!
Well, with the way "Predacons Rising" ended with Cybertron revived and able to make new life, Megatron turning over a new leaf and disbanding the Decepticons, Predaking finally having more of his own kind to be with, and peace finally established, that leaves room for a follow up series to be tonally lighter than what came before since we're well passed the grim harshness of war and now have room for a lighter fresh new start.Dead Metal wrote:I just wish Hasbro would stick to one continuity and incarnation for a while, Prime was awesome and the reason I even started watching it was because Hasbro promised that it was going to stick for at least 10 years. This new show here better be separate and not the new main thing. I am sick of having to get used to a new Transformers show and start liking it to the point that I want it to stay the norm.
I man Hasbro did state they wanted to go into a new direction with their business and expand more into media and entertainment.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:But they did.Dead Metal wrote:Animated was a great show and I wish they would have finished off the 4th and final season, and given us Animated Beachcomber, he just looked so dope!
Sure, his dialogue scene from "TransWarped" had to be cut, but he still appeared in season 3. Though, had his scene not been cut, it would have had him dying horribly instead of letting him go on to appear when he did in "Decepticon Air". So, I guess that's a blessing in disguise for those who like him.![]()
Sabrblade wrote:Well, with the way "Predacons Rising" ended with Cybertron revived and able to make new life, Megatron turning over a new leaf and disbanding the Decepticons, Predaking finally having more of his own kind to be with, and peace finally established, that leaves room for a follow up series to be tonally lighter than what came before since we're well passed the grim harshness of war and now have room for a lighter fresh new start.Dead Metal wrote:I just wish Hasbro would stick to one continuity and incarnation for a while, Prime was awesome and the reason I even started watching it was because Hasbro promised that it was going to stick for at least 10 years. This new show here better be separate and not the new main thing. I am sick of having to get used to a new Transformers show and start liking it to the point that I want it to stay the norm.
I man Hasbro did state they wanted to go into a new direction with their business and expand more into media and entertainment.![]()
And back when IGN interviewed him, Bob Orci did hint at the next series being a "tonally different continuation" that he'd love have as much continuity with Prime as possible, but we'll see.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
Even if his death was just to spite the character? (cuz it totally was, as DJW just made him to kill him)Dead Metal wrote:But how am I supposed to like him if all he did was cheer? I would have preferred seeing his death scene over this, because that would have let him actually do something for five minutes and we could get to know him a bit, like this he's just like the all the rest of the faceless background characters.
I took it as being a "tonal" inspiration more than anything, but... I don't see where they say it's new incarnation.Dead Metal wrote:I can see that, but there is that little titbit that this show is inspired by Rescue Bots and is a completely new incarnation.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Even if his death was just to spite the character? (cuz it totally was, as DJW just made him to kill him)Dead Metal wrote:But how am I supposed to like him if all he did was cheer? I would have preferred seeing his death scene over this, because that would have let him actually do something for five minutes and we could get to know him a bit, like this he's just like the all the rest of the faceless background characters.
At least the Almanacs gave us a look at his personality.
I took it as being a "tonal" inspiration more than anything, but... I don't see where they say it's new incarnation.Dead Metal wrote:I can see that, but there is that little titbit that this show is inspired by Rescue Bots and is a completely new incarnation.I see "reimagination", but that happens with every series including sequel ones.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
Shockwave7 wrote:(And if Hasbro doesn't want to 'move backward', as they claim, then why don't they dump all the established characters completely? Why keep using Optimus, Megatron, and (shudder) Bumblebee over and over and over and over and over and OVER? I got no problem with that because they're great - but don't say you want to 'move forward' and then just keep right on going back to the G1 well)
So, time to kill TF Prime,
dump all those figures,
clear the way for whatever half-@$$ed insectoid nightmares Bay has managed to fart onto the drawing board this time (when he's not fleeing in terror from broken teleprompters).
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
ausbot wrote:I'm in the "never again Transformers animated" camp. It is the only series I don't own a toy or DVD/blue ray of. I didn't enjoy the look, or story of it. I'm happy that others love it but I never want to see it again.
Shockwave7 wrote:And... I'm confused. Some say that Hasbro was planning '10 years' of TF prime, while others are saying the 'plan' was only 65 episodes (which is about the average life of a cartoon show, give or take). Has anybody got ANY proof of either allegation other besides 'oh it's just something I heard somewhere'?
Va'al wrote:http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/notes-from-hasbros-transformers-prime-cg-cartoon-panel-updated-during-panel-welker-and-cullen-reprise-roles-soundwave-/19044/
Scroll down, and it's there!
Shockwave7 wrote:Va'al wrote:http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/notes-from-hasbros-transformers-prime-cg-cartoon-panel-updated-during-panel-welker-and-cullen-reprise-roles-soundwave-/19044/
Scroll down, and it's there!
Ah, that's better. Still - again, it shows that Hasbro is REALLY short-sighted.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Shockwave7 wrote:Ah, that's better. Still - again, it shows that Hasbro is REALLY short-sighted. TF Prime had the potential for at least 2 more great seasons of story arcs (Airachnid's fate being just one. Soundwave's potential escape being another).
I don't run corporations or networks, and I'm sure there's details and reasons behind their decisions. But if a show is popular and the figures are selling, it seems kind of stupid to end it just when it's really revving up.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
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