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The question was asked if Spielberg thought there would be another Michael Bay Transformers movie to which he said:
I hope so, because I think he made the best of the three with this last one. I certainly can’t imagine anybody other than Michael being equipped to make another Transformers. He’s invented a genre and he’s got the secret formula.
How did I know someone’s going to ask me this question today? We’re talking about it, but there’s nothing right now. I’m going to do a tiny movie first, then we’ll talk about it, if I potentially do it.
Noideaforaname wrote:I gotta agree with Spielberg, Bay's probably the only director who could make a proper sequel to the Trilogy. That's not to say other directors can't make (good) TF films, but they certainly can't make good Bayverse TF films.
*feels like I may have unintentionally twisted Spielberg's words*
Noideaforaname wrote:they certainly can't make good Bayverse TF films.
RiddlerJ wrote:Each one will come with an autographed picture of Michael Bay sitting on top of a huge pile of money.
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One for each year of the Movieverse's decade strong tenure. Here's to a few more explosive years!
SlyTF1 wrote:But for these movies, all I want is robots killing each other, then transforming.
In other words, you don't want these movies to be substantially good. You just want them to be mind-numbing and pointless, with no reason for us to even care about the characters.SlyTF1 wrote:I agree too. There's no damn way the movies would be half as exciting with someone else. Everyone always wants to focus on boring ass stories and interactions with characters. I don't give a damn about any of that. I have Prime, Animated, and G1 if I want that stuff. But for these movies, all I want is robots killing each other, then transforming.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Quoted for truth.amtm wrote:It's pretty sad when a half hour cartoon can tell a story better than a 2.5 hour film.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Seriously, none of these movies gave me any reasons why I should even care about who lives and who dies.There's something to be said about a film when the audience doesn't empathize with its (would-be) main stars.
- Ironhide's murder by Sentinel? Barely knew him anyway.
- Megatron's deaths? Predictable.
- Optimus Prime's impalement? Typical.
- Sentinel Prime's death? Hey, it's only making Opitmus look more cold.
- Starscream's death? Pitiful.
- Jazz's death? Brushed off as though it were nothing.
- The Fallen's death? Abrupt.
- Jetfire's sacrifice? Noble, but he wasn't gonna last much longer at his age.
- Laserbeak's death? Kinda cool, but a savage like him wouldn't dare be kept alive by the writers.
- Any other Decepticons' deaths? Mere Redshirts.
I wanted to like these bots, but these films kept trying to sell Shia and his lover interests instead.
There is more to the TFs that mindless robot battling. Much more. 25+ years of lore are proof of that.
Try Chris Nolan. Or Joe Johnston. Or Jon Favreau. Or J. J. Abrams. Alfonso Cuarón. Kurt Wimmer. Michael Mann. Duncan Jones. Bryan Singer. Ridley Scott. Peter Jackson. Neill Blomkamp. Gore Verbinski. Guillermo del Toro. Edward Zwick. Or hey, have Spielberg himself direct it.ninjascythe79 wrote:well if it's not bay then who? A poor mans bay like Mcg or brent ratner? I can't imagine they're going to go in a much different directiion. let's be real the forth installment is not often a very good one. Exhibit a the phantom menace exhibit b x-men origins wolverine exhibit c batman and robin. I could continue ( superman 4 anybody?) I doubt they're getting james cameron or ridley scott. Bay is ok. More of the same. As far as I'm concerned this is bay's to ruin (more) or fix like revenge of the sith.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Quoted for truth.amtm wrote:It's pretty sad when a half hour cartoon can tell a story better than a 2.5 hour film.
These movies treat the audience like dimwits, which we are not. We are smarter than that and deserve more respectable movies that don't insult our IQs.
Sabrblade wrote:Try Chris Nolan. Or Joe Johnston. Or Jon Favreau. Or J. J. Abrams. Alfonso Cuarón. Kurt Wimmer. Michael Mann. Duncan Jones. Bryan Singer. Ridley Scott. Peter Jackson. Neill Blomkamp. Gore Verbinski. Guillermo del Toro. Edward Zwick. Or hey, have Spielberg himself direct it.ninjascythe79 wrote:well if it's not bay then who? A poor mans bay like Mcg or brent ratner? I can't imagine they're going to go in a much different directiion. let's be real the forth installment is not often a very good one. Exhibit a the phantom menace exhibit b x-men origins wolverine exhibit c batman and robin. I could continue ( superman 4 anybody?) I doubt they're getting james cameron or ridley scott. Bay is ok. More of the same. As far as I'm concerned this is bay's to ruin (more) or fix like revenge of the sith.
MINDVVIPE wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Try Chris Nolan. Or Joe Johnston. Or Jon Favreau. Or J. J. Abrams. Alfonso Cuarón. Kurt Wimmer. Michael Mann. Duncan Jones. Bryan Singer. Ridley Scott. Peter Jackson. Neill Blomkamp. Gore Verbinski. Guillermo del Toro. Edward Zwick. Or hey, have Spielberg himself direct it.ninjascythe79 wrote:well if it's not bay then who? A poor mans bay like Mcg or brent ratner? I can't imagine they're going to go in a much different directiion. let's be real the forth installment is not often a very good one. Exhibit a the phantom menace exhibit b x-men origins wolverine exhibit c batman and robin. I could continue ( superman 4 anybody?) I doubt they're getting james cameron or ridley scott. Bay is ok. More of the same. As far as I'm concerned this is bay's to ruin (more) or fix like revenge of the sith.
J.J. Abrams always has great buildups, but he's got to learn how to properly finish his movies, haha. I'd love to see Guillermo del Toro do Transformers.. that'd be one unique flick.
RhA... I just love that your current rank is "Head master"
Tell that to all the great stories out there that weren't about toy gimmicks or marketing. As well as all the non-toy characters.RhA wrote:TF Has never been about anything then selling toys and a batch of other stuff.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
RhA wrote:I'm holding out for 'Breastmaster'.
Sabrblade wrote:Tell that to all the great stories out there that weren't about toy gimmicks or marketing. As well as all the non-toy characters.RhA wrote:TF Has never been about anything then selling toys and a batch of other stuff.
Sabrblade wrote:In other words, you don't want these movies to be substantially good. You just want them to be mind-numbing and pointless, with no reason for us to even care about the characters.SlyTF1 wrote:I agree too. There's no damn way the movies would be half as exciting with someone else. Everyone always wants to focus on boring ass stories and interactions with characters. I don't give a damn about any of that. I have Prime, Animated, and G1 if I want that stuff. But for these movies, all I want is robots killing each other, then transforming.
Seriously, none of these movies gave me any reasons why I should even care about who lives and who dies.There's something to be said about a film when the audience doesn't empathize with its (would-be) main stars.
- Ironhide's murder by Sentinel? Barely knew him anyway.
- Megatron's deaths? Predictable.
- Optimus Prime's impalement? Typical.
- Sentinel Prime's death? Hey, it's only making Opitmus look more cold.
- Starscream's death? Pitiful.
- Jazz's death? Brushed off as though it were nothing.
- The Fallen's death? Abrupt.
- Jetfire's sacrifice? Noble, but he wasn't gonna last much longer at his age.
- Laserbeak's death? Kinda cool, but a savage like him wouldn't dare be kept alive by the writers.
- Any other Decepticons' deaths? Mere Redshirts.
I wanted to like these bots, but these films kept trying to sell Shia and his lover interests instead.
There is more to the TFs that mindless robot battling. Much more. 25+ years of lore are proof of that.
RiddlerJ wrote:Each one will come with an autographed picture of Michael Bay sitting on top of a huge pile of money.
Erailea wrote:Sabrblade wrote:In other words, you don't want these movies to be substantially good. You just want them to be mind-numbing and pointless, with no reason for us to even care about the characters.SlyTF1 wrote:I agree too. There's no damn way the movies would be half as exciting with someone else. Everyone always wants to focus on boring ass stories and interactions with characters. I don't give a damn about any of that. I have Prime, Animated, and G1 if I want that stuff. But for these movies, all I want is robots killing each other, then transforming.
Seriously, none of these movies gave me any reasons why I should even care about who lives and who dies.There's something to be said about a film when the audience doesn't empathize with its (would-be) main stars.
- Ironhide's murder by Sentinel? Barely knew him anyway.
- Megatron's deaths? Predictable.
- Optimus Prime's impalement? Typical.
- Sentinel Prime's death? Hey, it's only making Opitmus look more cold.
- Starscream's death? Pitiful.
- Jazz's death? Brushed off as though it were nothing.
- The Fallen's death? Abrupt.
- Jetfire's sacrifice? Noble, but he wasn't gonna last much longer at his age.
- Laserbeak's death? Kinda cool, but a savage like him wouldn't dare be kept alive by the writers.
- Any other Decepticons' deaths? Mere Redshirts.
I wanted to like these bots, but these films kept trying to sell Shia and his lover interests instead.
There is more to the TFs that mindless robot battling. Much more. 25+ years of lore are proof of that.
Thank you Sabrblade. A part of my soul died when I read the "who needs a story" part.
Story = everything. And it's not like the concept of story is new to the TF world. We just got stuck with a director that loves blowing crap up more than making us care about the things he's blowing up. You don't need to be making a chick flick to make viewers care :/
It's frightening how many people like mind-numbing nothingness movies these days...
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