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Sowndwave76 wrote:Soundwave is supposedly a new mold, which I believe will happen.
Totally passable then.Sowndwave76 wrote:Cliffjumper will surely be a retool of SS86 Bee.
Sowndwave76 wrote:Hound could be retooled, but maybe not... May depend on how Hastak thinks they can re-use a retooled mold.
I'm betting Sunstreaker is just a re-release of the 5-pk mold.
We'll see about Astrotrain. I have the Dramatic Capture set preordered, but who knows, the SS86 version could be an improvement.
Till-all-R1 wrote:Leader Soundwave w/Laserbeak but who's the second tape? $55 possibly $60 by then is too much for a Voyager with one tape. IMOSowndwave76 wrote:Soundwave is supposedly a new mold, which I believe will happen.
Hopefully it's new.Totally passable then.Sowndwave76 wrote:Cliffjumper will surely be a retool of SS86 Bee.Sowndwave76 wrote:Hound could be retooled, but maybe not... May depend on how Hastak thinks they can re-use a retooled mold.
I'm betting Sunstreaker is just a re-release of the 5-pk mold.
We'll see about Astrotrain. I have the Dramatic Capture set preordered, but who knows, the SS86 version could be an improvement.
Hound might perk my interest if he's the right shade this time, I felt the five pack version was too light in color. I held of waiting to see if they'd do better on Astortrain, seems I'll be waiting even longer, if it ever comes at all.
Rodimus Prime wrote:This is making me reconsider getting the Constructicons. They just seems too small.
Ironically, the CW Titan scales very well with the Dinobots. They could've just reissued the CW/UW figures in SS86 packaging.
Roadbuster wrote:Scaling by the cartoon, the Constructicons are supposed to as tall as Soundwave and the seekers... or much smaller, if we go by a certain G1 episode where everyone was toy-scaled.
But I look at the Stunticons. The individual members are a bit shorter than they should be as well. And the Insecticons are supposed to be Minicar sized in robot mode. I mean, look at Rodimus Prime and Galvatron. Depending of the studio, they're supposed to be either the same height or Rodimus is supposed to be taller. The scaling isn't going to to perfect.
Well I guess I didn't mean to say they were horrible, just less than what I expected. They could probably still work on my comics figure shelf, but imagine getting SS86 Devy together and he's only head and shoulders above Grimlock and Sludge.Sowndwave76 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:This is making me reconsider getting the Constructicons. They just seems too small.
Ironically, the CW Titan scales very well with the Dinobots. They could've just reissued the CW/UW figures in SS86 packaging.
It is unfortunate, because assuming the others are roughly the same height as Scrapper, they are definitely too small.
So Scrapper being a voyager is extra annoying. No combination of his part count/amount of plastic, engineering, or paint apps justify $37.
Compare him to Jihaxus... Who does have some clear plastic. But also has more paint, two weapons and the detachable piece on the shoulder part, forearm covers, wrist swivels, articulated hands, multi-joint wings, good height, a good amount of molded detail, decent engineering, and at least average overall articulation...
So maybe he's a one-off as a super-rare voyager. But compare Scrapper to Kingdom Cyclonus, and Scrapper still comes off like a deluxe figure.
For me, if all of these Constructicons were the exact same figures but increased in size, I'd like them more. And I don't think needed to match the size of the CW versions, but right in-between would have been nice.
This also doesn't mean I think these are horrible figures. It's become clearer what they are and what they aren't. Which I'm okay with.
Rodimus Prime wrote:Well I guess I didn't mean to say they were horrible, just less than what I expected. They could probably still work on my comics figure shelf, but imagine getting SS86 Devy together and he's only head and shoulders above Grimlock and Sludge.
All the CW Constructicons are voyager-sized, they scale well with Soundwave and Starscream, as well as the Dinobots,with whom they shared the most screen time.
They fall under... "Dramatic Capture Series". It's its own Japanese line and that the line's name.Till-all-R1 wrote:I'm curious what the Dramatic Capture sets fall under, Generations Selects or just random exclusives?
It's a redeco line.Till-all-R1 wrote:Was just wondering the likelihood of something like that as it has been a while since those three were last released. Maybe hey could simply retool the existing mold a bit.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
That, and the fact that the car mode has to look just different enough from a real VW Bug to remain legally unlicensed to avoid infringement from Volkswagen.Hero Alpha wrote:It is hard to complain about it, only nitpick is the rooftop corners are not as rounded off as they should be. Gonna assume its for a remould/repaint, since it looks more like a Cliffjumper roof.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sowndwave76 wrote:Negatives?
The only one I have is substantial. And that is this could have been a deluxe. See the photo below and this is definitely too small. Considering that both Megatron and Soundwave’s new figures will be taller, these Constructicons should have been as tall as Legacy Leader Soundwave. The ratcheted joint for Devy’s ankle tilt isn’t enough to justify voyager cost. Devy’s gun could’ve been thrown-in with Hook and Long Haul. There are other limb bots for the other combiners that didn’t include anything more than the figure and a small blaster/weapon. Notice in that photo how much less plastic is used compared to Soundwave. And probably paint as well.
I know larger figures would mean that Devy would be larger than Superion, Menasor, Bruticus, and any other future combiners. But for me, that doesn’t really matter. If Devastator is 2” taller than the others, so be it. These 6 characters are supposed to be larger than the other combiner limb bots. In fact, they’re supposed to be larger than the seekers. In the movie, Hook is barely shorter than Soundwave as they’re fighting.
This size issue just seems like a big shortcut by Hastak. Considering there are 6 Constructicons, what, there was no way Scrapper and Mixmaster could have been deluxe class? This set would’ve still cost basically $200.
Sabrblade wrote:That, and the fact that the car mode has to look just different enough from a real VW Bug to remain legally unlicensed to avoid infringement from Volkswagen.Hero Alpha wrote:It is hard to complain about it, only nitpick is the rooftop corners are not as rounded off as they should be. Gonna assume its for a remould/repaint, since it looks more like a Cliffjumper roof.
Yeah, the fact that Volkswagen doesn't like to be associated with "war toys" likely means that any TF toys based on any of their car models have to have even more genericized aspects than most other car models from other car companies.Hero Alpha wrote:Sabrblade wrote:That, and the fact that the car mode has to look just different enough from a real VW Bug to remain legally unlicensed to avoid infringement from Volkswagen.Hero Alpha wrote:It is hard to complain about it, only nitpick is the rooftop corners are not as rounded off as they should be. Gonna assume its for a remould/repaint, since it looks more like a Cliffjumper roof.
I did not think about that part of it, but I'd say you're correct. Just having it Chibi-fied I thought would be enough. That just makes it a "cute" VW bug really.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
adamage1 wrote:I LOVE that Hasbro is scaling Devastator to correct size. One of the things I hated about CW Devy was how completely out of proportion he was to all other figures. Accounting for the addition of the plastic for Devy’s gun, the ratchet joint for Devy’s ankle tilt, and the universal joints for Scrapper’s shoulders and hips (notice that most of Bonecrusher’s are ball joints by comparison), and the Voyager cost point makes absolute sense; just like the Commander class cost point for Long Haul, Hook, and the trailer/waist, legs, and kibble for Devy also makes perfect sense. The classes have been less about figure size and more about cost for many years now, so this should be no surprise, e.g. Earthrise Optimus, Siege Astrotrain, etc. I now have Scrapper in hand, and I absolutely love what they have done with him. I would have liked to have seen a couple things like wrist swivels and perhaps a bit more paint, but those are very minor gripes. I am very excited to finally have a properly scaled Devastator alongside the rest of my Generations collection—something I have wanted since I was 4 years old.
Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah this new Devastator won't be in scale with the other SS86 figures at all. The CW figure is. This new one will be good with the other combiners, like CW wasn't, but the older Titan displays much better with the Dinobots.
adamage1 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah this new Devastator won't be in scale with the other SS86 figures at all. The CW figure is. This new one will be good with the other combiners, like CW wasn't, but the older Titan displays much better with the Dinobots.
Setting aside the wild scale inconsistency in the G1 animation in both the show and movie, the new Devy is definitely in scale with the dinobots, as evidenced in this screenshot:
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