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Ditto. It's 1 of the big reasons why I like the new Menasor as well.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Personally, I don't like the Scramble City/CW design. I think it looks cheap and creatively lazy. When the individual pieces of a Gestalt aren't integrated into their respective combiner team designs.
-Kanrabat- wrote:The only one who truly had everything integrated with no compromises are Gobot's Puzzler.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:The only one who truly had everything integrated with no compromises are Gobot's Puzzler.
I'd add Tripredacus in there. Streamlined (and balanced) Gestalt form without excess kibble. To me, the point of a combiner is that the end result should have the proportions of a regular bot, just bigger. Like Omega Supreme or Tidal Wave.
That's why I look at FoC Bruticus as a success. Because he looks like a larger bot inkeeping with the WFC/FoC aesthetic. The whole emphasis being on sleek, alien designs. Not blocky G1.
-Kanrabat- wrote:I REALLY want that Tripredacus but I want to keep both of my kidneys.
As a prototype, the OG FOC Bruticus was severely flawed but the idea was there. If they go the Legacy Menasor route, I could see a leader FOC Bruticus with 4 voyager limbs with everything integrated. Of course, they couldn't "scramble city" and each limbs would have their own position. I think that's the perfect way to make FOC Bruticus right.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:I REALLY want that Tripredacus but I want to keep both of my kidneys.
As a prototype, the OG FOC Bruticus was severely flawed but the idea was there. If they go the Legacy Menasor route, I could see a leader FOC Bruticus with 4 voyager limbs with everything integrated. Of course, they couldn't "scramble city" and each limbs would have their own position. I think that's the perfect way to make FOC Bruticus right.
It amazes me that Beast Wars only had two combiners. But execution between the two was night and day. Lion Prowl and Ironhide's beast mode were the only parts of Magnaboss that weren't a complete mess.
Rescaling FoC Bruticus I can foresee is already in the pipeline. Unless I'm misremembering he was the only Gestalt in WFC/FoC. So I'd imagine when this SS line was greenlit, someone was already working on some Combaticon concept art. I highly doubt the three Titans of the two games will make it into SS. But the Gestalt definitely should.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I read earlier, people talking about game versions of Metroplex, Omega Supreme and Trypticon being in this line. Realistically, I wouldn't get my hopes up for those. Devastator made it into the SS line. So a combiner team has precedent, at least. All three of those Titans aren't really old enough releases to warrant a redux anyway. Given their price point, I would be sceptical of even a game accurate redeco for the existing figures.
-Kanrabat- wrote:I've yet to see a Commander or a Titan being in any SS line.
-Kanrabat- wrote:As for SS69 Devastator, that's a boxset in his own category with no "class" per se.
If they make SSG FOC Bruticus, I bet they will release the members separately over the years. Then sometime later, an "independent" boxset will be released. Maybe 2. One for Bruticus, one for Ruination.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote: Don't know how big their Trypticon was, but it was sold in two parts.
Wouldn't that just support the argument for Commander versions of them then? Or would that be too small if trying to adhere to game scale?Sabrblade wrote:It should probably be reminded that FOC Metroplex was also canonically twice as big as both Omega Supreme and Trypticon. He was a whole city, while they were just ships. While he could work as a Titan, they would have to be smaller, like the old Supreme class or the size of Studio Series ROTF Devastator.
Too small. Supreme was bigger. Think of the size comparison between Armada Super-Base Optimus Prime and Armada Unicron. The former was the size of Siege Jetfire or a CW Combiner, while the latter was much bigger.Rodimus Prime wrote:Wouldn't that just support the argument for Commander versions of them then? Or would that be too small if trying to adhere to game scale?Sabrblade wrote:It should probably be reminded that FOC Metroplex was also canonically twice as big as both Omega Supreme and Trypticon. He was a whole city, while they were just ships. While he could work as a Titan, they would have to be smaller, like the old Supreme class or the size of Studio Series ROTF Devastator.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
We no longer have Supreme class. I was trying to go with what was closest.Sabrblade wrote:Too small. Supreme was bigger. Think of the size comparison between Armada Super-Base Optimus Prime and Armada Unicron. The former was the size of Siege Jetfire or a CW Combiner, while the latter was much bigger.Rodimus Prime wrote:Wouldn't that just support the argument for Commander versions of them then? Or would that be too small if trying to adhere to game scale?Sabrblade wrote:It should probably be reminded that FOC Metroplex was also canonically twice as big as both Omega Supreme and Trypticon. He was a whole city, while they were just ships. While he could work as a Titan, they would have to be smaller, like the old Supreme class or the size of Studio Series ROTF Devastator.
Well, this would be the perfect opportunity with the the perfect incentives to bring it back.Rodimus Prime wrote:We no longer have Supreme class. I was trying to go with what was closest.Sabrblade wrote:Too small. Supreme was bigger. Think of the size comparison between Armada Super-Base Optimus Prime and Armada Unicron. The former was the size of Siege Jetfire or a CW Combiner, while the latter was much bigger.Rodimus Prime wrote:Wouldn't that just support the argument for Commander versions of them then? Or would that be too small if trying to adhere to game scale?Sabrblade wrote:It should probably be reminded that FOC Metroplex was also canonically twice as big as both Omega Supreme and Trypticon. He was a whole city, while they were just ships. While he could work as a Titan, they would have to be smaller, like the old Supreme class or the size of Studio Series ROTF Devastator.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
I agree. Unfortunately that would mean yet another price tier for retailers as well as 1 more different size box on the shelves. If it was brought back, it would most likely be online only, under the Selects line.Sabrblade wrote:Well, this would be the perfect opportunity with the the perfect incentives to bring it back.Rodimus Prime wrote:We no longer have Supreme class. I was trying to go with what was closest.
Well we know very little about the already-announced Nemesis, could the WFC Trypticon be its robot mode? I understand it's not technically in the SS line, but if they made the robot mode look like Trypticon, without calling it that, it would be an acceptable cheat. Unless it's been confirmed that it will look exactly like the Nemesis from the G1 cartoon?Emerje wrote:Problem with them doing a Trypticon is he turns into the Nemesis and we're already getting a transforming one of those this year. They don't look the same, Trypticon looks like a backwards Dark Side, but I doubt Hasbro would make two giant spaceships by the same name
Rodimus Prime wrote:Well we know very little about the already-announced Nemesis, could the WFC Trypticon be its robot mode? I understand it's not technically in the SS line, but if they made the robot mode look like Trypticon, without calling it that, it would be an acceptable cheat. Unless it's been confirmed that it will look exactly like the Nemesis from the G1 cartoon?Emerje wrote:Problem with them doing a Trypticon is he turns into the Nemesis and we're already getting a transforming one of those this year. They don't look the same, Trypticon looks like a backwards Dark Side, but I doubt Hasbro would make two giant spaceships by the same name
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