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Sabrblade wrote:Okay, at least this new online comic isn't pornographic like the Octane comic was.
Looks to be advertising all the recent reissues, plus showing how White Lune switches over to being the Targetmaster partner of Blurr.That's White Lune, sister of White Leo. She's a new character created just for this series, first introduced back in Doublecross's comic and the prologue comic that led into it. She uses the Masterforce to don the Haywire Targetmaster armor, with this comic showing how she joins up with Blurr as his Targetmaster partner after having been first partnered with Doublecross.ZeroWolf wrote:Who's the cat girl? I'm somewhat familiar with the Japanese transformers but I don't recognise her at all.
I hope it ends with everyone non-native to the Legends World all getting sent back to their native worlds and time periods. Metroplex especially since he's gotta go back to the G1 World in order to be present for his appearance in the Unite Warriors Offshots for the Aerialbots and Stunticons, which are chronologically set after Metroplex's return home according to the author.ZeroWolf wrote:Though what will happen with all this in the end anyway? Once, takara begin releasing power of the primes stuff that is as it's my understanding that legends will end.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
ZeroWolf wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Okay, at least this new online comic isn't pornographic like the Octane comic was.
Looks to be advertising all the recent reissues, plus showing how White Lune switches over to being the Targetmaster partner of Blurr.That's White Lune, sister of White Leo. She's a new character created just for this series, first introduced back in Doublecross's comic and the prologue comic that led into it. She uses the Masterforce to don the Haywire Targetmaster armor, with this comic showing how she joins up with Blurr as his Targetmaster partner after having been first partnered with Doublecross.ZeroWolf wrote:Who's the cat girl? I'm somewhat familiar with the Japanese transformers but I don't recognise her at all.
Thanks sabrblade
I only find elements of the manga problematic as they seem completely out of place compared to the zany world that legends has created for itself. Take that stuff out and you're left with a very different but light hearted take on tfs.
Though what will happen with all this in the end anyway? Once, takara begin releasing power of the primes stuff that is as it's my understanding that legends will end.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Emerje wrote:And suddenly thousands of Transformers fans have been exposed to the world of Japanese gravure modeling. It's about as much porn as a girl twerking in any given rap video and just as mainstream. Think of it like Playboy with (skimpy) clothes on, you can buy the stuff just about anywhere that sells magazines.
Rated X wrote:I always think of these comics when someone pops up and cries that transformers are toys and the target audience is kids, not older collectors. Yeah right...
william-james88 wrote:Emerje wrote:And suddenly thousands of Transformers fans have been exposed to the world of Japanese gravure modeling. It's about as much porn as a girl twerking in any given rap video and just as mainstream. Think of it like Playboy with (skimpy) clothes on, you can buy the stuff just about anywhere that sells magazines.
North America has the same thing. Its called Glamour Modelling and you can find it in magazines like Maxim, Summum and others depending on your area. They are sold in any convenience store that has magazines. They are simply men's magazines and north america has its own glamour modeling icons. So nothing really new but definitely not the same as a rap video. In a rap video, the main part of it is the music/song. The singer is what sells the video (whether they are present in it or not), but in glamour modelling its all about the woman. She is on the front cover. So its different. And while a 10 year old can watch MTV, they cant buy a men's magazine.
Delta Magnus wrote:This is because you are a hamhanded idiot.
"Courtesy of fellow Seibertronian Cyberpath, we have news of another instalment in the unnecessary continuation of the Takara Tomy Transformers Legends manga, as uploaded online to their website, with more unnecessary depictions of female characters, and even further unnecessary interactions with said characters after the introduction of the LG57 Octone/Octane chapter."
ToaChronix wrote:"Courtesy of fellow Seibertronian Cyberpath, we have news of another instalment in the unnecessary continuation of the Takara Tomy Transformers Legends manga, as uploaded online to their website, with more unnecessary depictions of female characters, and even further unnecessary interactions with said characters after the introduction of the LG57 Octone/Octane chapter."
Okay, like, I get that you're not a huge fan of the manga and that's fine - but that's a little unprofessional for a news site, aint it?
Va'al wrote:ToaChronix wrote:"Courtesy of fellow Seibertronian Cyberpath, we have news of another instalment in the unnecessary continuation of the Takara Tomy Transformers Legends manga, as uploaded online to their website, with more unnecessary depictions of female characters, and even further unnecessary interactions with said characters after the introduction of the LG57 Octone/Octane chapter."
Okay, like, I get that you're not a huge fan of the manga and that's fine - but that's a little unprofessional for a news site, aint it?
oh no I'll have to hand in my professional news site card
william-james88 wrote:Rated X wrote:I always think of these comics when someone pops up and cries that transformers are toys and the target audience is kids, not older collectors. Yeah right...
Different markets. In Japan, only toys backed by a concurrent media are aged 5 and up (like movie toys for example) while toys about G1 lines like MP and Legends are 15 and up. But I dont think that has anything to do with the toys. Its more that Japan thinks toys based on g1 characters wont sell to kids so why bother. More of a marketting thing than about who can actually play with them. And they make more movie toys, which are targetted at kids (looking at age range). Plus Japan is a smidge in terms of global transformers sales.
And none of this means Hasbro isnt selling to kids.
Hasbro has said that most of their sales come from parents buying toys for their kids. RID made most money in 2016, not Combiner Wars/Titans Return. They were quoted saying that. You have no actual evidence to say that Transformers toys are made first and foremost for adults.
Rated X wrote: If the Japanese dont mind this kind of stuff, maybe we shouldnt either.
steals_your_goats wrote:william-james88 wrote:Emerje wrote:And suddenly thousands of Transformers fans have been exposed to the world of Japanese gravure modeling. It's about as much porn as a girl twerking in any given rap video and just as mainstream. Think of it like Playboy with (skimpy) clothes on, you can buy the stuff just about anywhere that sells magazines.
North America has the same thing. Its called Glamour Modelling and you can find it in magazines like Maxim, Summum and others depending on your area. They are sold in any convenience store that has magazines. They are simply men's magazines and north america has its own glamour modeling icons. So nothing really new but definitely not the same as a rap video. In a rap video, the main part of it is the music/song. The singer is what sells the video (whether they are present in it or not), but in glamour modelling its all about the woman. She is on the front cover. So its different. And while a 10 year old can watch MTV, they cant buy a men's magazine.
I'm gonna have to disagree with you on the music video thing. I think Emerje had it exactly right, music videos are a good comparison to these comics for the very reasons you said they weren't. In a music video the main draw is the artist and the explicit content just happens to be in it. That's the same as these comics. The main draw is there fact that they're Transformers comics and the (arguably) explicit content just happens to be in it.
william-james88 wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:william-james88 wrote:Emerje wrote:And suddenly thousands of Transformers fans have been exposed to the world of Japanese gravure modeling. It's about as much porn as a girl twerking in any given rap video and just as mainstream. Think of it like Playboy with (skimpy) clothes on, you can buy the stuff just about anywhere that sells magazines.
North America has the same thing. Its called Glamour Modelling and you can find it in magazines like Maxim, Summum and others depending on your area. They are sold in any convenience store that has magazines. They are simply men's magazines and north america has its own glamour modeling icons. So nothing really new but definitely not the same as a rap video. In a rap video, the main part of it is the music/song. The singer is what sells the video (whether they are present in it or not), but in glamour modelling its all about the woman. She is on the front cover. So its different. And while a 10 year old can watch MTV, they cant buy a men's magazine.
I'm gonna have to disagree with you on the music video thing. I think Emerje had it exactly right, music videos are a good comparison to these comics for the very reasons you said they weren't. In a music video the main draw is the artist and the explicit content just happens to be in it. That's the same as these comics. The main draw is there fact that they're Transformers comics and the (arguably) explicit content just happens to be in it.
I did not say these comics are dissimilar to rap videos. I said Gravure_idols/ glamour magazines are disimilar to rap videos. Emerje was doing a comparison between gravue idols and girls twirking in rap videos. And this is what I was responding to. Not the comics.
Delta Magnus wrote:This is because you are a hamhanded idiot.
william-james88 wrote:Rated X wrote: If the Japanese dont mind this kind of stuff, maybe we shouldnt either.
The most vocal person here against these happens to be Japanese.
Delta Magnus wrote:This is because you are a hamhanded idiot.
william-james88 wrote:Rated X wrote: If the Japanese dont mind this kind of stuff, maybe we shouldnt either.
The most vocal person here against these happens to be a Japanese person who can read English and visits American based websites.
hinomars19 wrote:OK, I think some objectivity needs to be said here;
First off, can mods please crack down on the 'Sikomofo' stuff. Nobody here is allowed to insult Micheal Bay, Hasbro staff, or Hasbro itself, so let's get ourselves in check please.
I'm far more upset by people being allowed to flame and personally insult a fellow human being because of some drawings, than the presence of said drawings.
And primal-x convoy, what that 'Chilean girl' chooses to do with her own toys is her business. You of course don't have to be around it, but she isn't harming anyone-you on the other hand are throwing personal insults around for what appear to be nothing but luls and bravado and an inability to get over yourself. Sakamoto's approach to these comics may not be your taste (I'm a tad surprised about it myself) but you and your attitude towards an actual person (Sakamoto) are far more worrying to me.
I do wish people would stop being so scared of the human body, and their own attraction to it. But yes, it feels out of place in TF media. It does.
These are for the Japanese market. If enough Japanese fans are vocal about their dislike, and do so in the RIGHT places, ie to Takara or indeed Sakamoto himself, then fair play. But grandstanding on forums whilst believing you are taking the whole world by storm is annoying.
I'd have to ask that we just grow up a bit.
hinomars19 wrote:OK, I think some objectivity needs to be said here;
First off, can mods please crack down on the 'Sikomofo' stuff. Nobody here is allowed to insult Micheal Bay, Hasbro staff, or Hasbro itself, so let's get ourselves in check please.
Counterpunch wrote:hinomars19 wrote:OK, I think some objectivity needs to be said here;
First off, can mods please crack down on the 'Sikomofo' stuff. Nobody here is allowed to insult Micheal Bay, Hasbro staff, or Hasbro itself, so let's get ourselves in check please.
On this, I agree.
Warnings going forward on this. Sakamoto is a creator who is very decent to fans at conventions and I'm not going to tolerate it any further.
(reading some more of this thread to see if I need to do anything...and by God...if it's falling to me to do something...)
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