The Energon Pub

[TF-fan kev777]

I think we will be sort of like SS Devy, same height as the CW combiners, but a lot more mass.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Ok, the figure is 170mm, give or take, the real locomotive is 16,500mm... That makes it pretty close to H0 scale. However, the only way to be really certain is to check the gauge (the width of the space between the two rails) of the rails they come with: for H0 scale it's 16.5 mm.

[o.supreme]

Ok, the figure is 170mm, give or take, the real locomotive is 16,500mm... That makes it pretty close to H0 scale. However, the only way to be really certain is to check the gauge (the width of the space between the two rails) of the rails they come with: for H0 scale it's 16.5 mm.

Knowing TT, I'd be surprised if it wasn't HO scale, that would be amazing for model train enthusiasts.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Ok, the figure is 170mm, give or take, the real locomotive is 16,500mm... That makes it pretty close to H0 scale. However, the only way to be really certain is to check the gauge (the width of the space between the two rails) of the rails they come with: for H0 scale it's 16.5 mm.

Knowing TT, I'd be surprised if it wasn't HO scale, that would be amazing for model train enthusiasts.

And knowing them, that's exactly why they're detailed like the real thing

[o.supreme]

Ok, the figure is 170mm, give or take, the real locomotive is 16,500mm... That makes it pretty close to H0 scale. However, the only way to be really certain is to check the gauge (the width of the space between the two rails) of the rails they come with: for H0 scale it's 16.5 mm.

Knowing TT, I'd be surprised if it wasn't HO scale, that would be amazing for model train enthusiasts.

And knowing them, that's exactly why they're detailed like the real thing

My Dad was big into Lionel (O Gauge) for the longest time, but then switched to HO about 30 years ago because it was smaller, and he could build more detailed set pieces (he had a large plywood display in our garage for years growing up). Sadly, as he got older, the smaller scale made it hard to manage the tinier pieces, and he had to give it up when he moved into a smaller place.

I dread the day when some Transformers will just be "too complicated" for me to handle. I'm just shy of 46, and fear that time might be coming sooner than later.

[DeathReviews]

I'm glad I had no particular attachment to the classic versions of these train bots - otherwise I might be tempted to get these. They look great, but the thought of having to buy six MP figures to complete a combiner? Ow!

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Hot DAMN does Getseui look amazing! Train mode is stunningly wonderful, I love it!

Shouki still has the best robot mode, but the level of detail on Getseui's train mode are miles beyond Shouki. He looks great.

Now to go preorder him.

[Emerje]

Question: How do we know the leg is 17cm? I see it in that graphic, but is that just somebody's guess, I don't see it mentioned in Japanese anywhere. I wont be satisfied with a Raiden that's not much taller than Ultra Magnus.



Emerje

[o.supreme]

If you are looking at my crude picture. Look 2 posts above that on the previous page.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

O for Primus' sake... The whole accuracy thing is now getting ridiculous, but model train fans are gonna love what I have to say...

Remember how I talked about gauge and how scale can be measured from that? One caveat: The Model 0 Shinkansen Shouki uses 1,435mm or 4'8.5" standard gauge, but the JNR Class EF65 locomotive Getusei uses 1,067mm or 3'6" narrow gauge, and that is reflected in the MPG toys!

[Emerje]

If you are looking at my crude picture. Look 2 posts above that on the previous page.

Derp, didn't even notice the leg was in that picture and I commented on it. I think at the time I hadn't realized he was forming the entire leg, I thought he was just forming part of the thigh (like at a mid-thigh swivel), not the whole of it.

Emerje

[Sabrblade]

O for Primus' sake... The whole accuracy thing is now getting ridiculous, but model train fans are gonna love what I have to say...

Remember how I talked about gauge and how scale can be measured from that? One caveat: The Model 0 Shinkansen Shouki uses 1,435mm or 4'8.5" standard gauge, but the JNR Class EF65 locomotive Getusei uses 1,067mm or 3'6" narrow gauge, and that is reflected in the MPG toys!

So what you're saying is is that Shouki can run on the North Western Railway while Getsuei can run on the Skarloey Railway.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

O for Primus' sake... The whole accuracy thing is now getting ridiculous, but model train fans are gonna love what I have to say...

Remember how I talked about gauge and how scale can be measured from that? One caveat: The Model 0 Shinkansen Shouki uses 1,435mm or 4'8.5" standard gauge, but the JNR Class EF65 locomotive Getusei uses 1,067mm or 3'6" narrow gauge, and that is reflected in the MPG toys!

So what you're saying is is that Shouki can run on the North Western Railway while Getsuei can run on the Skarloey Railway.

I was thinking the same thing.

And then I was trying to look at the rails to see if they were different sizes. Would kinda suck not being able to couple them all up like that because they use the different rail gauges

[Jelze Bunnycat]

O for Primus' sake... The whole accuracy thing is now getting ridiculous, but model train fans are gonna love what I have to say...

Remember how I talked about gauge and how scale can be measured from that? One caveat: The Model 0 Shinkansen Shouki uses 1,435mm or 4'8.5" standard gauge, but the JNR Class EF65 locomotive Getusei uses 1,067mm or 3'6" narrow gauge, and that is reflected in the MPG toys!

So what you're saying is is that Shouki can run on the North Western Railway while Getsuei can run on the Skarloey Railway.

I was thinking the same thing.

And then I was trying to look at the rails to see if they were different sizes. Would kinda suck not being able to couple them all up like that because they use the different rail gauges

You could, but the rails would look kinda off tho. Like I said, it's reflected in the MPG figures, so Getsuei's rails are narrower than Shouki's.

Taken the liberty of looking up the gauges for everyone:

4'8.5" Standard gauge: Shouki, Yukikaze
3'6" Narrow gauge: Getsuei, Kaen, Seizan, Suiken

[Sabrblade]

O for Primus' sake... The whole accuracy thing is now getting ridiculous, but model train fans are gonna love what I have to say...

Remember how I talked about gauge and how scale can be measured from that? One caveat: The Model 0 Shinkansen Shouki uses 1,435mm or 4'8.5" standard gauge, but the JNR Class EF65 locomotive Getusei uses 1,067mm or 3'6" narrow gauge, and that is reflected in the MPG toys!

So what you're saying is is that Shouki can run on the North Western Railway while Getsuei can run on the Skarloey Railway.

I was thinking the same thing.

And then I was trying to look at the rails to see if they were different sizes. Would kinda suck not being able to couple them all up like that because they use the different rail gauges

You could, but the rails would look kinda off tho. Like I said, it's reflected in the MPG figures, so Getsuei's rails are narrower than Shouki's.

Taken the liberty of looking up the gauges for everyone:

4'8.5" Standard gauge: Shouki, Yukikaze
3'6" Narrow gauge: Getsuei, Kaen, Seizan, Suiken

Maybe the MPs will have adjustable wheels to let fans choose between real-world-accurate different gauges and fiction-accurate same gauges.

Like how MP Sunstreaker gave people the option to choose between real-world accuracy and Transformers-accuracy in either hiding or exposing his rear-mounted engine.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Meanwhile...

The first few hits:

PRE-ORDER Transformers Masterpiece MPG-02 Trainbot Getsuei
Pre-order scheduled to arrive in September

£129.99 - Kapow Toys (10% deposit available)

£129.99 - InDemand Toys (10% deposit available)

$209.99 - TFsource (Estimated Arrival: July '22)

$209.99 - Thechosenprime (Estimated Arrival: July '22)

[o.supreme]

MPG-02 Getsuei is now available on Pulse for the very competitive price of $140.99. USD Basically it is only the added Tax that Pulse charges(and the prospect of getting the item, before Pulse), that gives Amazon JP the slightest edge.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

MPG-02 Getsuei is now available on Pulse for the very competitive price of $140.99. USD Basically it is only the added Tax that Pulse charges(and the prospect of getting the item, before Pulse), that gives Amazon JP the slightest edge.

I'm happy for those who want him that get that price, the fact that the Pulse price is only dollars more than the import is pretty fantastic

[o.supreme]

I just got an estimated shipping date on MPG-02 from Amazon Japan, which was not unexpected (9/29-10/9). But every once in a while I like to check the price and do the conversion.

The price for Getsui actually went down again slightly. My total now is Y 16,335 which equates to just under $140 shipped. The price for Shouki stayed the same (Y 17,511), but because of the variance in exchange it is now down to just under $150.00 shipped (was closer to $155 before). I know exchange rates are always in fluctuation, and Shouki is still about 4 months away from release, but the price going down, even ever so slightly is never a bad thing.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I got that email too, was a nice update to get.

If my math is right, I have it figured out that within the next 3 weeks we should start getting a tease for the next MPG, and we are about 3 to 4 weeks away from the full reveal.

[o.supreme]

I had a similar thought. Definitely looking forward to it

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

I wonder if this Raiden will include the orange secondary chestplate, or if that'll be left out because of the Headmasters animators' negligence.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I wonder if this Raiden will include the orange secondary chestplate, or if that'll be left out because of the Headmasters animators' negligence.

Mad Blitzwing: Whaahahahaha! Why not do both?!

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

I wonder if this Raiden will include the orange secondary chestplate, or if that'll be left out because of the Headmasters animators' negligence.

Mad Blitzwing: Whaahahahaha! Why not do both?!

What, include it and not include it simultaneously? How very Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy game.

I mean, obviously it would be possible to include the secondary chestplate but make it an optional part of the combination. But outright including it and not including it... I don't think Takara have removed their common sense that completely.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I wonder if this Raiden will include the orange secondary chestplate, or if that'll be left out because of the Headmasters animators' negligence.

Mad Blitzwing: Whaahahahaha! Why not do both?!

What, include it and not include it simultaneously? How very Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy game.

I mean, obviously it would be possible to include the secondary chestplate but make it an optional part of the combination. But outright including it and not including it... I don't think Takara have removed their common sense that completely.

Exactly!