Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:24 pm

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So, with this thing dropping next month, have we heard any updated news?
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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:26 am

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I guess I will put Surgio on ebay. That is mighty impressive.
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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:07 am

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Ironhidensh wrote:I guess I will put Surgio on ebay. That is mighty impressive.
I'll say. I wasn't thrilled to begin with, but every new pic of him I'm warming up. To the point where I'm actually thrilled now. 8-}

Could this be the new ladder magic? :-?
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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby Black Hat » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:19 am

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I must be one of the few not overly impressed. The car mode is a bit of a mess and the headsculpt looks apalling. Plus the price is obscene.
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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby steals_your_goats » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:31 am

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Black Hat wrote:I must be one of the few not overly impressed. The car mode is a bit of a mess and the headsculpt looks apalling. Plus the price is obscene.

How is the price obscene? It's only $20 more than the 3rd party ones, is officially licensed by Lamborghini, comes with more accessories and has functioning doors, headlights and hood.
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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby Black Hat » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:46 am

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steals_your_goats wrote:
Black Hat wrote:I must be one of the few not overly impressed. The car mode is a bit of a mess and the headsculpt looks apalling. Plus the price is obscene.

How is the price obscene? It's only $20 more than the 3rd party ones, is officially licensed by Lamborghini, comes with more accessories and has functioning doors, headlights and hood.

He's also only the size of MP Sideswipe, and yet costs a lot more, and he looks...questionable, especially in vehicle mode. He definitely doesn't fit in very well with MP-12.
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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby steals_your_goats » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:52 am

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Black Hat wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:
Black Hat wrote:I must be one of the few not overly impressed. The car mode is a bit of a mess and the headsculpt looks apalling. Plus the price is obscene.

How is the price obscene? It's only $20 more than the 3rd party ones, is officially licensed by Lamborghini, comes with more accessories and has functioning doors, headlights and hood.

He's also only the size of MP Sideswipe, and yet costs a lot more, and he looks...questionable, especially in vehicle mode. He definitely doesn't fit in very well with MP-12.

I don't see what's so "questionable" about his vehicle Image and his price is more than Sideswipe because his transformation is a lot more in-depth which requires a much larger parts count.
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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:36 am

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He is about 85 or 87 bucks on HLJ. Only about 20 or so more than others in his size class. I can stomach that. It's not like the ridiculous 40 dollars more than Ultra Magnus for a far smaller toy that Dinobot is.
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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:42 am

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steals_your_goats wrote:I don't see what's so "questionable" about his vehicle Image

For comparison, here's what the real one looked like.
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The exposed engine isn't a stock option, it's something Takara likely came up with on their own. The only really noticeable new panel lines I can see are the ones over the front wheels and before the back wheels, and maybe one under the doors, all of the others are accurate and no more than what the "third party" versions have.

And if you import him the price is actually less than the "third party" version. You can pre-order one off AmiAmi right now for about $82. And since he's a car the shipping should be under $10 via SAL.

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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:46 am

Motto: "Power to the strong and the right!"
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R &D eats much of the cost! But hey, just 9140Y! 29% tax free off retail price! Compared to Dinobot costing 21340Y, still 29% off SALES TAX, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper.

Sunstreaker needs to move a minimum of 10000 to make a profit. Takara is probably taking a hit and will compensate by bulk (Kind of like a PS4 sells cheaper than actual cost of manufacture (offset by software sales)
Buy Official Hb/TakaraTitancityformers at retail price or else the 3rd party makers win!

"Shelfwarming"
Btw, its been nearly a year now and TR Soundwave and Blaster aren't moving in the shelve of TRU, is that shelfwarming or what?


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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby steals_your_goats » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:53 am

Weapon: Twin Swords
fenrir72 wrote:R &D eats much of the cost! But hey, just 9140Y! 29% tax free off retail price! Compared to Dinobot costing 21340Y, still 29% off SALES TAX, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper.

Sunstreaker needs to move a minimum of 10000 to make a profit. Takara is probably taking a hit and will compensate by bulk (Kind of like a PS4 sells cheaper than actual cost of manufacture (offset by software sales)

Can you please stop with the whole tax thing? It's unnecessary and everyone knows why you keep bringing it up. It's pretty and childish.

Also where are you getting these numbers from? As far as I know Takara doesn't release p&l for every figure they sell so you're just making it all up. Your failed attempts to get people to sympathize with a toy manufacturer under the false pretense of bankruptcy are just becoming cringeworthy. If you want to buy it then great, but it. But stop trying to force it down everyone else's throats.
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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:55 am

Motto: "*Shrug*"
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fenrir72 wrote:R &D eats much of the cost! But hey, just 9140Y! 29% tax free off retail price! Compared to Dinobot costing 21340Y, still 29% off SALES TAX, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper.

The others were right, your immaturity isn't going to stop and you can't accept that you don't know what you're talking about. Whatever, it's obvious you'd rather act like a child and I don't particularly like kids that much. Black listed. >:oP

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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:00 pm

Motto: "Power to the strong and the right!"
Weapon: Plasma Cannon
from poster "arbit" of http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/topic/4 ... facturing/

Finally some figures to grab on in the JP setting so food for thought nice to know.

According to arbit:

"I thought that we could share our real data here to get to the bottom of it.

I will start with these responses I received from a premium toy manufacturer that is often discussed on this board. I wont name them for confidential reasons, but suffice it to say they are a medium level premium brand, not the best, not the worst:"


"What is the licensing fee: For the licensing cost, it will be ~4-6% of selling price in Japan.

What is the manufacturing cost: Depends on item, but ~55% of selling price will be the production fee (including prototype charge)

How many units have you manufactured of different items? MOQ 3,000-5,000 pcs. If too cheap item, 10,000 pcs is necessary.

How many units do you need to sell to be profitable? if over 3,000 pcs, nearly all items we can start to get profit"

Obviously nowhere near Hb and Takara levels.............
Buy Official Hb/TakaraTitancityformers at retail price or else the 3rd party makers win!

"Shelfwarming"
Btw, its been nearly a year now and TR Soundwave and Blaster aren't moving in the shelve of TRU, is that shelfwarming or what?


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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:28 pm

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Fen, it's enough already. >:oP
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