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News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:42 am

It certainly is better, the head on the Hasbro han solo is absolutely hideous.

News Credits: 4 · by **Quantum Surge** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:43 am

The Millennium Falcon pllooks better here since it's sleeker than the original, but I honestly prefer the robot modes of the original version; they look more humanoud and less restricted by their poseability.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:48 am

Well! Darn.
Probably going to need to have this. :roll:

Takara, you had me at Heavily Armored Wookie Warrior.

by **Yweggo** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:17 am

I may have to get this one for Chewbacca if nothing else.

Website · by **DMSL** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:43 am

I will only utter one word when it comes to Star Wars Transformers and that is:

YUCK.

:shock:

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:16 pm

They look pretty decent! I have the original with a slightly broken Chewbacca stored away for the moment, but I will gladly pick this 2.0 version up. The falcon looks awesome here

News Credits: 1 · by **Hotconvoy** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:21 pm

That is just sad :-(

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:43 pm

Hopefully Chewbacca won't suffer from GPS this time around...

News Credits: 13 · by **steals_your_goats** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:45 pm

Oh hell yeah! Definitely getting this!

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:39 pm

Hotconvoy wrote:That is just sad

Out of curiosity, why is it sad? Is it just because you don't like the idea? While the actual idea isn't the best, I love the engineeringthat goes into these as there isn't a lot of space to play around with on the iconic vehicle designs of star wars

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:34 pm

Is it just me or is the head on the new Solo look more like an actual Transformer now?

What I mean it looks like the standard Transformer look and not a robot Harrison Ford.

(My wording is probably weird here but I'm not sure how else to describe it.)

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:59 am

Deadput wrote:Is it just me or is the head on the new Solo look more like an actual Transformer now?

What I mean it looks like the standard Transformer look and not a robot Harrison Ford.

You mean Hanode Solo..?

by **Rated X** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:19 am

ZeroWolf wrote:
Hotconvoy wrote:That is just sad

Out of curiosity, why is it sad? Is it just because you don't like the idea? While the actual idea isn't the best, I love the engineeringthat goes into these as there isn't a lot of space to play around with on the iconic vehicle designs of star wars

I agree it is sad.. :-(

Those who dont learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

The concept is just dumb. It was dumb then and its still dumb now. How cool would it have been if they just focused on the vehicles to homage Star Wars and let the robot modes homage actual Transformers characters? Then they would be true "Transformers" crossovers, rather than just on the sole basis that they can transform. Right now they're no more "Transformers" than a Gobot. The one thing they are not is Transformers crossovers.

Imagine tie fighter seekers, vader tie fighter megatron, x wing fighter optimus, cloud speeder bumblebee, milenium falcon ironhide, slave 1 soundwave, death star unicron, so many possibilities. But instead they give us robots wearing circus masks....twice.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:02 pm

It was only yesterday that we got the Full Reveal of the Star Wars powered by Transformers Millenium Falcon that transforms into Han Solo and Chewbacca, and now today we have new pre-orders for the new figure.

These pre-orders come to us from various sponsor sites, and lists the combining figure at a $134.99 price point, around the same price as a Takara Masterpiece medium sized figure such as Inferno and movie Ironhide. You can find the pre-orders listed below for the sites that currently have the pre-order. The combiner is expected to arrive in June of this year.

This new figure is based on a similarly designed Millenium Falcon figure from 2006 that split apart to transform into Han Solo and Chewbacca, with Han forming the front half and Chewie the rear. That figure suffered from Gold Plastic Syndrome, which caused Chewie to fall apart. This new figure uses a different transformation scheme while still having the individual robots form the same halves of the Falcon.

Check out the pre-orders below. Are you ready for this new and exciting figure? Do you want a Battle Wookie and Han Solo? Will you be picking them up? Let us know in the comments section below!

Big Bad Toy Store - http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/V ... a_mouth_07

TFsource - https://tfsource.com/japanese/star-wars ... um-falcon/

Product Description
This mash up of Transformers and Star Wars gives the Millennium Falcon the ability to split apart and transform into Han Solo and Chewbacca robots. Robot Han can be armed with his blaster pistol while Chewbacca has his bowcaster. Mini figures of Han and Chewbacca are also included.

Product Features
Transformers meets Star Wars
Made of plastic
Transforms from Millennium Falcon into Han Solo and Chewbacca robots
Combiner figure
Includes mini figures of Han and Chewbacca

Box Contents
Han Solo robot
Blaster pistol
Chewbacca robot
Bowcaster
Mini Han Solo
Mini Chewbacca

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:27 pm

I pre-ordered mine. Gonna be an expensive early summer, but I don't think I can say no to this one

News Credits: 1 · by **Marcdachamp** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:52 pm

I got the original Hasbro version as a Christmas gift back in like 2006. It wasn't the type of thing I would have asked for, but it was kind of a neat surprise. I came to like the figures, and I had them displayed for a while. They ended up in storage until Force Awakens when I decided to try my luck transforming and displaying them again. Got them into Falcon mode, but I finally had my first brush with GPS as a Transformers fan, sadly.

That said, Takara did an AMAZING job on these! Han's face was the biggest problem with the original figures, so it's awesome to see they've given him something much cooler. Chewie's original face always looked okay, but this, too, is better! I may have to snag these...

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:55 pm

Marcdachamp wrote:I got the original Hasbro version as a Christmas gift back in like 2006. It wasn't the type of thing I would have asked for, but it was kind of a neat surprise. I came to like the figures, and I had them displayed for a while. They ended up in storage until Force Awakens when I decided to try my luck transforming and displaying them again. Got them into Falcon mode, but I finally had my first brush with GPS as a Transformers fan, sadly.

That said, Takara did an AMAZING job on these! Han's face was the biggest problem with the original figures, so it's awesome to see they've given him something much cooler. Chewie's original face always looked okay, but this, too, is better! I may have to snag these...

Your story sounds a lot like mine. It wasn't something I asked for, but I got it and it was really cool. and I think they did awesome with this seeing as how it has a different Transformation scheme and they look cooler here.

I think you should snag him up. It seems like a pretty awesome thing, and it's one of those rarer curiosity things.

News Credits: 11 · by **primalxconvoy** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:22 pm

I want to like these, as it seems Takara has done a brilliant job on the engineering, but the faces and decos look like "mechs cozplaying as their pilots", rather than mechs that represent their pilots. It's a bit like having Gundams looking just like their pilots, complete with faction uniform, hairstyle, etc.

I'd rather have this:

Than this:

(Btw, has anyone noticed that it's now easier to upload pics here? Previously, the limit seemed pretty low, but I've been able to upload with aplomb. Cheers, Seibertron!)

by **Rated X** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:29 pm

At these Takara prices, the target audience is definitely adult transformers collectors who happen to like star wars. I dont see any hardcore stsr wars collectors choosing these over Black Series figures and vehicles. So with that being said, why not make them true crossovers that pay homage to both franchises ? The could have given them Transformers characters heads instead. Im sure most people would rather have that then generic robots wearing star wars masks like cosplay. Maybe a 3rd party can make new heads for these things....but that chewbacca figure cant be saved...

News Credits: 11 · by **primalxconvoy** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:47 pm

Rated X wrote:At these Takara prices, the target audience is definitely adult transformers collectors who happen to like star wars. I dont see any hardcore stsr wars collectors choosing these over Black Series figures and vehicles. So with that being said, why not make them true crossovers that pay homage to both franchises ? The could have given them Transformers characters heads instead. Im sure most people would rather have that then generic robots wearing star wars masks like cosplay. Maybe a 3rd party can make new heads for these things....but that chewbacca figure cant be saved...

Although none of us here know, of course, it's been postulated that TF characters cannot be "in" the SW universe and vice versa for brand/copyright reasons. Possibly, Disney/Lucasfilm doesn't want to dilute the brand or confuse the official stories by having another franchise so intimately connecting to it. Using the TF "play pattern" is one thing, but having a story and characters crossing over isn't wanted by the rights holders.

Personally, I think that's barmy, if true. If they made more "mech" style heads for these toys, plus did repainted figs as TF versions (and if they weren't so ridiculously overpriced), then I'd buy one of each version.

In fact, they could have just made these all Headmasters, and used star wars characters turn into the heads, and also allowed us to add existing heads to customise our own.

News Credits: 13 · by **steals_your_goats** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:53 pm

Rated X wrote:At these Takara prices, the target audience is definitely adult transformers collectors who happen to like star wars. I dont see any hardcore stsr wars collectors choosing these over Black Series figures and vehicles. So with that being said, why not make them true crossovers that pay homage to both franchises ? The could have given them Transformers characters heads instead. Im sure most people would rather have that then generic robots wearing star wars masks like cosplay. Maybe a 3rd party can make new heads for these things....but that chewbacca figure cant be saved...

These are definitely more for star wars fans than transformers fans since they're strictly Star Wars characters and not the cross overs you keep complaining about. And Star Wars collector's would choose these over the black series vehicles simply because there are barely any black series vehicles and they're massive compared to these.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:02 pm

primalxconvoy wrote:
Rated X wrote:At these Takara prices, the target audience is definitely adult transformers collectors who happen to like star wars. I dont see any hardcore stsr wars collectors choosing these over Black Series figures and vehicles. So with that being said, why not make them true crossovers that pay homage to both franchises ? The could have given them Transformers characters heads instead. Im sure most people would rather have that then generic robots wearing star wars masks like cosplay. Maybe a 3rd party can make new heads for these things....but that chewbacca figure cant be saved...

Although none of us here know, of course, it's been postulated that TF characters cannot be "in" the SW universe and vice versa for brand/copyright reasons. Possibly, Disney/Lucasfilm doesn't want to dilute the brand or confuse the official stories by having another franchise so intimately connecting to it. Using the TF "play pattern" is one thing, but having a story and characters crossing over isn't wanted by the rights holders.

That's probably the official line, but certainly not the truth.

And considering the first round of SW TF figures were pre-Disney I think someone just really likes the idea of robot versions of the SW cast.

Emerje

News Credits: 13 · by **steals_your_goats** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:04 pm

Emerje wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
Rated X wrote:At these Takara prices, the target audience is definitely adult transformers collectors who happen to like star wars. I dont see any hardcore stsr wars collectors choosing these over Black Series figures and vehicles. So with that being said, why not make them true crossovers that pay homage to both franchises ? The could have given them Transformers characters heads instead. Im sure most people would rather have that then generic robots wearing star wars masks like cosplay. Maybe a 3rd party can make new heads for these things....but that chewbacca figure cant be saved...

Although none of us here know, of course, it's been postulated that TF characters cannot be "in" the SW universe and vice versa for brand/copyright reasons. Possibly, Disney/Lucasfilm doesn't want to dilute the brand or confuse the official stories by having another franchise so intimately connecting to it. Using the TF "play pattern" is one thing, but having a story and characters crossing over isn't wanted by the rights holders.

That's probably the official line, but certainly not the truth.

And considering the first round of SW TF figures were pre-Disney I think someone just really likes the idea of robot versions of the SW cast.

Emerje

All of that was pre Disney though so that most likely changes things.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:30 pm

I don't see a problem with these existing, if you don't like, don't buy. Now, as for what people think this line should be, people would still complain. Another point, all of the crossover toylines have done worked this way so far, why should this be different? Plus thus approach seems to work for some people, look at D-Max ;-)

News Credits: 11 · by **primalxconvoy** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:33 pm

Emerje wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
Rated X wrote:At these Takara prices, the target audience is definitely adult transformers collectors who happen to like star wars. I dont see any hardcore stsr wars collectors choosing these over Black Series figures and vehicles. So with that being said, why not make them true crossovers that pay homage to both franchises ? The could have given them Transformers characters heads instead. Im sure most people would rather have that then generic robots wearing star wars masks like cosplay. Maybe a 3rd party can make new heads for these things....but that chewbacca figure cant be saved...

Although none of us here know, of course, it's been postulated that TF characters cannot be "in" the SW universe and vice versa for brand/copyright reasons. Possibly, Disney/Lucasfilm doesn't want to dilute the brand or confuse the official stories by having another franchise so intimately connecting to it. Using the TF "play pattern" is one thing, but having a story and characters crossing over isn't wanted by the rights holders.

That's probably the official line, but certainly not the truth.

And considering the first round of SW TF figures were pre-Disney I think someone just really likes the idea of robot versions of the SW cast.

Emerje

Brilliant! I wonder how apologists for the lack of TFs can get out of THAT evidence! There's also the Heroclicks style have, where there's a picture of (Luke Skywalker?) fighting Galaxy Force Optimus Prime.