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Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Sun Sep 27, 2015 6:16 am

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fenrir72 wrote:But, if using MP as an example, the black pile divers of Lambor is , well kept in the box.

ah but they're more of an accessory, they're not needed for either mode.

Gun barrel is a necessity for Shockwaves gun mode.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:43 am

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Maybe they could make the gun barrel convert into some kind of weapon accessory for Shockwave to wield in robot mode, like a giant-sized bazooka or something (even if he didn't have such an item in the cartoon).
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:54 am

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fenrir72 wrote:Though to early to tell, maybe the gun barrel functions like a mat, detaches and folds around the existing back pack or simply you just put it aside.

I can't imagine they'd do a MP figure and have a part like that set aside. Reeks of laziness.

But I agree, it will become part of the backpack in some fashion. It could even make up the backpack entirely.

If there are lights and sounds, they may just go with the small button batteries rather than large AA batteries to save on space.

Or just ditch it all together, are lights and sounds really important in a Masterpiece figure?


I dont understand, isnt his backpack the gun handle? Why are we thinking it will be the barrel?

And there wont be any sounds, just lights, and I do find those important in an MP like this one. MPs are supposed to be the be all end all versions of figures and since Shockwave was an 80s space gun, I would love it to have some lights for added fun and playability.

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Acck! If the sound gimmicks are ditched, the better.


They were never there. Anyways, this guy is reported early 2016, I think we are looking at the final prorotypes and the next part is merely colouring. I dont think much will be changed from what Taktom has planned right now when they showed these.

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:19 am

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william-james88 wrote:
Burn wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Though to early to tell, maybe the gun barrel functions like a mat, detaches and folds around the existing back pack or simply you just put it aside.

I can't imagine they'd do a MP figure and have a part like that set aside. Reeks of laziness.

But I agree, it will become part of the backpack in some fashion. It could even make up the backpack entirely.

If there are lights and sounds, they may just go with the small button batteries rather than large AA batteries to save on space.

Or just ditch it all together, are lights and sounds really important in a Masterpiece figure?


I dont understand, isnt his backpack the gun handle? Why are we thinking it will be the barrel?

And there wont be any sounds, just lights, and I do find those important in an MP like this one. MPs are supposed to be the be all end all versions of figures and since Shockwave was an 80s space gun, I would love it to have some lights for added fun and playability.

fenrir72 wrote:
Acck! If the sound gimmicks are ditched, the better.


They were never there. Anyways, this guy is reported early 2016, I think we are looking at the final prorotypes and the next part is merely colouring. I dont think much will be changed from what Taktom has planned right now when they showed these.

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Gaaah.. To lazy to edit.

The backpack is the back of the gun. The handle is the legs. IUf you ever find the G1 toy in the wild, being Sockwave or the black Shackwave, take it. It's engeneering on par with G1 Jetfire.

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:29 am

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fenrir72 wrote:But, if using MP as an example, the black pile divers of Lambor is , well kept in the box.

ah but they're more of an accessory, they're not needed for either mode.

Gun barrel is a necessity for Shockwaves gun mode.


That then or make the barrel collapsible or wrap around to his back pack. The possibilities in my opinion is limited to 3.

1.Kibble
2.Wrap around the back pack
3.A mini torture/laboratory set (Shocky is a scientist, at least that's how his bio was fleshed out.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:57 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
Gaaah.. To lazy to edit.

The backpack is the back of the gun. The handle is the legs. IUf you ever find the G1 toy in the wild, being Sockwave or the black Shackwave, take it. It's engeneering on par with G1 Jetfire.


That is a pretty good G1 toy right there. Masterpiece definitely has to work to beat that! :BOT:
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby MGrotusque » Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:22 pm

Personally i need lights and sound in a Shockwave figure. To me it would be the epitome of laziness for these features to not exist. I may be the only person in the TF community who wants these features in this release but in my opinion it would only be proper.

If it is such a problem for people to have light and sound than just pull the batteries out and problem solved.

I really would have liked Wheeljack to have had light up ears. Bit of a shame about that really.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

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MGrotusque wrote:If it is such a problem for people to have light and sound than just pull the batteries out and problem solved.


Except that electronics can sometime hinder the design a bit. Especially in a poseable MP figure.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby DedicatedGhostArt » Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:04 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
Gaaah.. To lazy to edit.

The backpack is the back of the gun. The handle is the legs. IUf you ever find the G1 toy in the wild, being Sockwave or the black Shackwave, take it. It's engeneering on par with G1 Jetfire.


That is a pretty good G1 toy right there. Masterpiece definitely has to work to beat that! :BOT:


Simple. Add articulation. >:oP
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:15 pm

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I also think the gun barrel doesn't detach, but simply folds down on his back and into the backpack, because of the hinge behind his head.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:17 pm

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SillySpringer wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Gaaah.. To lazy to edit.

The backpack is the back of the gun. The handle is the legs. IUf you ever find the G1 toy in the wild, being Sockwave or the black Shackwave, take it. It's engeneering on par with G1 Jetfire.


That is a pretty good G1 toy right there. Masterpiece definitely has to work to beat that! :BOT:


Simple. Add articulation. >:oP


And improve the shoulder joints. The original design on them is a major weakness.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby DedicatedGhostArt » Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:22 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:I also think the gun barrel doesn't detach, but simply folds down on his back and into the backpack, because of the hinge behind his head.


Hopefully, I hate parts-forming.

Burn wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:That is a pretty good G1 toy right there. Masterpiece definitely has to work to beat that! :BOT:


Simple. Add articulation. >:oP


And improve the shoulder joints. The original design on them is a major weakness.


...yeah good point. I also wonder what the heck those... wheel things, on his butt are. Did the g1 toy have that?
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:28 pm

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SillySpringer wrote:I also wonder what the heck those... wheel things, on his butt are. Did the g1 toy have that?
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They look like the little dial things that were towards the back of the gun mode.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby DedicatedGhostArt » Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:34 pm

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SillySpringer wrote:I also wonder what the heck those... wheel things, on his butt are. Did the g1 toy have that?
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They look like the little dial things that were towards the back of the gun mode.

Yeah... but the g1 toy didn't have them on his butt... still doesn't detract from it at all nonetheless. :x
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby Whifflefire » Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:35 pm

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SillySpringer wrote: I also wonder what the heck those... wheel things, on his butt are. Did the g1 toy have that?
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It was joint that the backpack is on to become the end of the gun on the original.



Looking at it, I can't think of any reason the barrel end wouldn't just fit inside the backpack. It seems much bigger than it needs to be, and I think that's a clip there on the top of the pack.
Looking forward to this no matter what, though.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:36 pm

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SillySpringer wrote:I also wonder what the heck those... wheel things, on his butt are. Did the g1 toy have that?
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They look like the little dial things that were towards the back of the gun mode.


That's the location of the hinge for the backpack on the original toy. It's even featured in the gif of the commercial bumper.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby DedicatedGhostArt » Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:38 pm

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SillySpringer wrote: I also wonder what the heck those... wheel things, on his butt are. Did the g1 toy have that?
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It was joint that the backpack is on to become the end of the gun on the original.



Looking at it, I can't think of any reason the barrel end wouldn't just fit inside the backpack. It seems much bigger than it needs to be, and I think that's a clip there on the top of the pack.
Looking forward to this no matter what, though.

Yeah if anyone should have a backpack, Shockwave should. If you need a reason, you can just pretend that he stores equipment or ammo in there. Shockwave is a walking laser gun for crying out loud. Still love it. :x

I'm kinda wondering, what size class is Shockwave in? It's pretty obvious that Hot Rod is about the size of the other car bots, is Shockwave in the same size group as Ironhide?
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby Agamemnon » Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:39 pm

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SillySpringer wrote:I also wonder what the heck those... wheel things, on his butt are. Did the g1 toy have that?
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They look like the little dial things that were towards the back of the gun mode.

Yeah... but the g1 toy didn't have them on his butt... still doesn't detract from it at all nonetheless. :x

Uh, yes he did. And so did the animation model. Did you read the last couple of pages?

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby DedicatedGhostArt » Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:41 pm

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SillySpringer wrote:
Burn wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:I also wonder what the heck those... wheel things, on his butt are. Did the g1 toy have that?
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They look like the little dial things that were towards the back of the gun mode.

Yeah... but the g1 toy didn't have them on his butt... still doesn't detract from it at all nonetheless. :x

Uh, yes he did. And so did the animation model. Did you read the last couple of pages?


Ehh I may've been looking at it wrong.

I'm kinda wondering, what size class is Shockwave in? It's pretty obvious that Hot Rod is about the size of the other car bots, is Shockwave in the same size group as Ironhide?
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby Whifflefire » Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:54 pm

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I'm kinda wondering, what size class is Shockwave in? It's pretty obvious that Hot Rod is about the size of the other car bots, is Shockwave in the same size group as Ironhide?[/quote]

My guess is he'll be about Soundwave's height. It looks like Hotrod is the same size of Tracks, Who is a head taller than sideswipe according to some in-hand images. Shockwave according to the pictures is several heads taller than Hotrod.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby DedicatedGhostArt » Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:01 pm

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Whifflefire wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
I'm kinda wondering, what size class is Shockwave in? It's pretty obvious that Hot Rod is about the size of the other car bots, is Shockwave in the same size group as Ironhide?


My guess is he'll be about Soundwave's height. It looks like Hotrod is the same size of Tracks, Who is a head taller than sideswipe according to some in-hand images. Shockwave according to the pictures is several heads taller than Hotrod.

Interesting... I guess Soundwave and Ironhide are about the same size class too?
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby Cyberpath » Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:07 pm

Perhaps another piece of evidence that MP Shockwave won't have a detachable gun-barrel piece?

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It appears that the barrel's "fin" is poking through a slit in Shockwave's backpack.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby DedicatedGhostArt » Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:16 pm

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Cyberpath wrote:Perhaps another piece of evidence that MP Shockwave won't have a detachable gun-barrel piece?

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It appears that the barrel's "fin" is poking through a slit in Shockwave's backpack.


Wait, can you find any other pictures of his backside? (not in a weird way okay.) I have not seen any other pictures of the back of his except for this one you just posted...

It's pretty cool that he has light-piping btw! Isn't he the first MP to have that?
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

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They could release Shockwave in neon pink and green andI'll still buy it.

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