Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Fri May 11, 2018 3:34 am

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sol magnus wrote:
TMan978 wrote:Dude...I'm cool with paying a premium on import toys but this one is redonkulous. It's not even a new mold. No new content...I cant do it. I'm so afraid of what Megatron will cost.

I'm good with the original, although color scheme wise, I like MP-29+ better. They say this is the "anime" version? He's the exact same color as G1 Shockwave.

While I'm not getting this one, I'm hoping the price increase isn't due to the Tariff situation...or oil prices going up again, or whatever other worldly nonsense is occurring.

It is expensive for one reason and one reason only. It is because it is not a wide release in Japan, only available at one retailer. So Hasbro Asia will be distributing it elsewhere instead and since they know you can't get the actual takara release, they are charging as much as they can for their release. Same situation as the seekers.

I don't really see where the BBTS or TFSource price is all that bad, though, comparatively anyway. The Japanese price is 21,600JPY (about US$198) plus shipping from Japan (MP-29 in 2016 cost me US$27 for SAL parcel which you likely wouldn't be able to get from a Japanese forwarding service, plus fees). Then there's the Asia price which is better at US$170, but shipping, in my case, starts at $35 bringing the total to US$205. Compared to US$210 at TFSource with free shipping or US$214 at BBTS after shipping, I'd just as well spend the extra US$5 to get it from a domestic seller that'll be easier to work with in case of defects or damage.

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby SpikeyTigertron » Fri May 11, 2018 4:45 am

Emerje wrote: I don't really see where the BBTS or TFSource price is all that bad, though, comparatively anyway. The Japanese price is 21,600JPY (about US$198) plus shipping from Japan (MP-29 in 2016 cost me US$27 for SAL parcel which you likely wouldn't be able to get from a Japanese forwarding service, plus fees). Then there's the Asia price which is better at US$170, but shipping, in my case, starts at $35 bringing the total to US$205. Compared to US$210 at TFSource with free shipping or US$214 at BBTS after shipping, I'd just as well spend the extra US$5 to get it from a domestic seller that'll be easier to work with in case of defects or damage.


After trying my had at importing, even with the discount from Amiami/HLJ/etc... sometimes by the time you factor in shipping... it really all comes out in the wash. Devastator (takara) and Megatron... oh boy.... Though... that was *one* way to get around the "barrel plug" issue.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby AlphaBass » Fri May 11, 2018 6:39 am

Are the only real differences between the two are more lights and a darker color?

Even if I were considering getting it, I can't justify that much of an upcharge for an "upgrade", even if we all know TT will charge it because reasons.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Fri May 11, 2018 7:36 am

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Fri May 11, 2018 8:21 am

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Cheem the Rup has done comparison pics between the Destron and Boei Sanbo versions of Laserwave.

First batch:

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Fri May 11, 2018 8:28 am

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Question: why the "Boei Sanbo" for the MP-29+ one? That's just his Japanese function (防衛参謀 bōei sanbō), not a special title.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Fri May 11, 2018 8:32 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Question: why the "Boei Sanbo" for the MP-29+ one? That's just his Japanese function (防衛参謀 bōei sanbō), not a special title.
Takara seems to be unable to use "Laserwave" Trademark as is, hence both the Q-TF and the Legends toy using the Hasbro name "Shockwave" and the previous MP being "Destron Laserwave".
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Fri May 11, 2018 8:51 am

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Emerje wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
TMan978 wrote:Dude...I'm cool with paying a premium on import toys but this one is redonkulous. It's not even a new mold. No new content...I cant do it. I'm so afraid of what Megatron will cost.

I'm good with the original, although color scheme wise, I like MP-29+ better. They say this is the "anime" version? He's the exact same color as G1 Shockwave.

While I'm not getting this one, I'm hoping the price increase isn't due to the Tariff situation...or oil prices going up again, or whatever other worldly nonsense is occurring.

It is expensive for one reason and one reason only. It is because it is not a wide release in Japan, only available at one retailer. So Hasbro Asia will be distributing it elsewhere instead and since they know you can't get the actual takara release, they are charging as much as they can for their release. Same situation as the seekers.

I don't really see where the BBTS or TFSource price is all that bad, though, comparatively anyway. The Japanese price is 21,600JPY (about US$198) plus shipping from Japan (MP-29 in 2016 cost me US$27 for SAL parcel which you likely wouldn't be able to get from a Japanese forwarding service, plus fees). Then there's the Asia price which is better at US$170, but shipping, in my case, starts at $35 bringing the total to US$205. Compared to US$210 at TFSource with free shipping or US$214 at BBTS after shipping, I'd just as well spend the extra US$5 to get it from a domestic seller that'll be easier to work with in case of defects or damage.

Emerje

I don't think it's "bad" other than the generic bad any increase tends to bring. This is an expensive hobby. I spend the money, but I'm concious of the money. As William-James pointed out, and I didn't factor in, this is an exclusive not as widely available, so it's really not that bad.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Fri May 11, 2018 9:17 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Question: why the "Boei Sanbo" for the MP-29+ one? That's just his Japanese function (防衛参謀 bōei sanbō), not a special title.
Takara seems to be unable to use "Laserwave" Trademark as is, hence both the Q-TF and the Legends toy using the Hasbro name "Shockwave" and the previous MP being "Destron Laserwave".


Oooooo... Doing some comparing with MP boxes, and there's something we overlooked all this time. Look at how the names are rendered on the back of some boxes:

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Allegiance and function in the black, (trademarked) name in yellow. But...

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The function is part of the (trademarked) name now, sneaky. So it's not a recent occurrence, it's his full name since the release of the first MP.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby TMan978 » Fri May 11, 2018 12:21 pm

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Would this be easier to understand if you can read Japanese? I can't tell where the trademark is listed
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Fri May 11, 2018 12:26 pm

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TMan978 wrote:Would this be easier to understand if you can read Japanese? I can't tell where the trademark is listed
She means that the names we know to be the Trademarked ones are written in the yellow boxes, not that the TM logo is visible with those names.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Fri May 11, 2018 12:39 pm

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For clarification, the names in yellow are the presumably trademarked names:

アイアンハイド aianhaido: "Ironhide"
バンブル banburu: "Bumble" (aka Bumblebee)
ストリーク sutorīku: "Streak" (aka Bluestreak)
防衛参謀レーザーウェーブ bōei sanbō rēzāuēbu: "Defense Official Laserwave"

As you can see, Laserwave has to have a prefix in Japanese script, but Latin script for English, they made due with the "Destron" one.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Fri May 11, 2018 10:34 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Question: why the "Boei Sanbo" for the MP-29+ one? That's just his Japanese function (防衛参謀 bōei sanbō), not a special title.

The original MP-29 was also listed as "Boei Sanbo" as part of its name so it isn't something specific to MP-29+.

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby Relic0037 » Sat May 12, 2018 4:03 am

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Agamemnon wrote:Awww....I like this color better, but I cannot justify two MP Shockies... :-?


I don't own an MP-29 yet, but the cheaper price may make me choose Lavenderwave
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby TMan978 » Sat May 12, 2018 9:26 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:For clarification, the names in yellow are the presumably trademarked names:

アイアンハイド aianhaido: "Ironhide"
バンブル banburu: "Bumble" (aka Bumblebee)
ストリーク sutorīku: "Streak" (aka Bluestreak)
防衛参謀レーザーウェーブ bōei sanbō rēzāuēbu: "Defense Official Laserwave"

As you can see, Laserwave has to have a prefix in Japanese script, but Latin script for English, they made due with the "Destron" one.

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:06 pm

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A video from TakaraTomy's Youtube page. Go to 18:33 to see MP+ Shocky. Not sure if it's already known, but he look's insignia'less. Guess he's got stickers like Lavenderwave :roll:



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Postby TMan978 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:13 pm

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:34 pm

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Lookin' good! That darker shade of purple is perfect on Masterpiece Shockwave. It's too bad that's not the purple Takara went with initially.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:06 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:Lookin' good! That darker shade of purple is perfect on Masterpiece Shockwave. It's too bad that's not the purple Takara went with initially.

Well, we know they have something of a lavender fixation.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:12 pm

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Was kinda hoping they'd name the + version something other than "Destron Laserwave" (as in, a different prefix in front of "Laserwave") to help better differentiate the + version from the regular version that was also named "Destron Laserwave".
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New Pictures of Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave MP 29+

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:12 am

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Thanks to fellow Seibertron user, Cyberpath, we have done brand new photographs to share of Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave MP 29+! These come couresty of Facebook user GenmonTCracker. The pictures show off more of MP 29+'s cartoon accurate paint job compared to the old MP 29, which is included for comparison. Also pictured is the Hasbro Asia exclusive coin that is being bundled with the release, and as usual with these releases, the coin's case has been made to resemble Shockwaves head.

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby frogbat » Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:44 am

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One of my least favourite mp figures... felt a bit lazy and phoned in. Too many visible screw holes and gaps.


I probably prefer the new colour scheme cos it looks better in general but, the original’s works extremely well when he’s placed side by side with mp36
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby mentre83 » Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:51 am

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frogbat wrote:One of my least favourite mp figures... felt a bit lazy and phoned in. Too many visible screw holes and gaps.

Exactly my thoughts. If the character itself weren't this cool... the original toy color scheme suits it well, though. Not a huge fan of the subtle head retooling, by the way.
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