Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby Madeus Prime » Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:12 am

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Va'al wrote:Once again coming at us from Hideashi Yuki on Twitter, we get some comparison shots of the third part of the prototype for MP-25 Star Saber - and it's Yuuki no Brain, Brainmaster of Courage! Check out the images showing the tiny figure alongside its predecessors and some other size comparisons.


TFYuki is Hisashi Yuki, not Hideashi Yuki.

Also, when did MP Star Saber get the designation of MP-25? We still don't know what designation he'll get as far as I've heard. Ultra Magnus is MP-22. Granted we don't know if Star Saber will be MP-23 or something higher yet, but last I heard he wasn't stated to have a number yet.

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I was wondering where MP-25 came from as well... For all we know, it could have its own numbering system like the movie 'MP' figures. But if site staff know something we don't, then who the hell is MP-23 & 24? Spill it!


I'm getting a bad feeling that MP-23 is the brainmaster unit, MP-24 is Saber, with MP-25 being Starsaber.

Anyway, I think we'll be seeing a Victory Leo and possibly a Dai Atlas in the distant future.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:54 am

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Madeus Prime wrote:I'm getting a bad feeling that MP-23 is the brainmaster unit, MP-24 is Saber, with MP-25 being Starsaber.
They wouldn't give separate components of a single Masterpiece release individual ID numbers. When Rumble and Jaguar were packaged together, they were both given a single ID number of MP-15. Likewise for Frenzy and Buzzsaw together as a 2-pack being MP-16.

As far as can be told, the "MP-25" thing is incorrect (no offense intended towards the news crew).
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby VioMeTriX » Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:04 pm

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it really is sad that with a flagship masterpiece figure, the brain master has the pose ability of an 80's action master toy. and weve seen some small transformers with mad articulation...
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:07 pm

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VioMeTriX wrote:it really is sad that with a flagship masterpiece figure, the brain master has the pose ability of an 80's action master toy. and weve seen some small transformers with mad articulation...
It's not like the brain is even supposed to do anything anyway. It's not even a person; just the core component of Star Saber that goes into his chest.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby megatronus » Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:12 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
VioMeTriX wrote:it really is sad that with a flagship masterpiece figure, the brain master has the pose ability of an 80's action master toy. and weve seen some small transformers with mad articulation...
It's not like the brain is even supposed to do anything anyway. It's not even a person; just the core component of Star Saber that goes into his chest.

No offense, but that's a really, really sorry excuse.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby Powered Convoy » Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:44 pm

The figure is teeny tiny. Any joints beyond what it has is likely to make it extremely fragile.

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:11 pm

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Madeus Prime wrote:I'm getting a bad feeling that MP-23 is the brainmaster unit, MP-24 is Saber, with MP-25 being Starsaber.
They wouldn't give separate components of a single Masterpiece release individual ID numbers. When Rumble and Jaguar were packaged together, they were both given a single ID number of MP-15. Likewise for Frenzy and Buzzsaw together as a 2-pack being MP-16.

As far as can be told, the "MP-25" thing is incorrect (no offense intended towards the news crew).


All of that, including the name, are the result of a very tired me typing early in the morning. Apologies!
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby Agamemnon » Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:20 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Madeus Prime wrote:I'm getting a bad feeling that MP-23 is the brainmaster unit, MP-24 is Saber, with MP-25 being Starsaber.
They wouldn't give separate components of a single Masterpiece release individual ID numbers. When Rumble and Jaguar were packaged together, they were both given a single ID number of MP-15. Likewise for Frenzy and Buzzsaw together as a 2-pack being MP-16.

As far as can be told, the "MP-25" thing is incorrect (no offense intended towards the news crew).


All of that, including the name, are the result of a very tired me typing early in the morning. Apologies!

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:39 pm

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VioMeTriX wrote:it really is sad that with a flagship masterpiece figure, the brain master has the pose ability of an 80's action master toy. and weve seen some small transformers with mad articulation...


You're talking about something that is half as tall and half as wide as the Armada minicon Ramjet figure. This is a fgurine that would be the right size to fit onto a HotWheels car, or an HO scale model train. Which is 1/87th of your size. To put it bluntly, and with as much sarcasm as possible:

The hell else do you want?? :P
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:33 pm

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Given the size,I don't think it will be feasible to give the Brain of Courage full articulation. It's like hoping that the "Spike" figure in MP-10 to have the same features (which will rack up the costs)
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby OptimalOptimus2 » Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:17 pm

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby megatronus » Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:19 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:Given the size,I don't think it will be feasible to give the Brain of Courage full articulation. It's like hoping that the "Spike" figure in MP-10 to have the same features (which will rack up the costs)

I think the Spike argument is less fair, given the existence of Dr Wu's Partners.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:32 am

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fenrir72 wrote:Given the size,I don't think it will be feasible to give the Brain of Courage full articulation. It's like hoping that the "Spike" figure in MP-10 to have the same features (which will rack up the costs)

I think the Spike argument is less fair, given the existence of Dr Wu's Partners.


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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:35 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:Given the size,I don't think it will be feasible to give the Brain of Courage full articulation. It's like hoping that the "Spike" figure in MP-10 to have the same features (which will rack up the costs)

I think the Spike argument is less fair, given the existence of Dr Wu's Partners.


Dr. Wu is a 3rd party company, those guys can charge as much as they want. They aren't tied up as much as Tomy has to deal with costs despite the typical stereotype against multinationals/big corporations short selling us.

Remember how there were such big plans for UM? But costs was the primary concern in one of the interviews released.

And one thing, just what else can you add to such a wee wee figure? Head articulation? Remember, he already carries the face/brainmaster gimmick etc.

Besides, if I/you have Starsaber now, I'd be playing with his default/super mode over the Brainmaster.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby megatronus » Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:56 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:Given the size,I don't think it will be feasible to give the Brain of Courage full articulation. It's like hoping that the "Spike" figure in MP-10 to have the same features (which will rack up the costs)

I think the Spike argument is less fair, given the existence of Dr Wu's Partners.


Dr. Wu is a 3rd party company, those guys can charge as much as they want. They aren't tied up as much as Tomy has to deal with costs despite the typical stereotype against multinationals/big corporations short selling us.

Remember how there were such big plans for UM? But costs was the primary concern in one of the interviews released.

And one thing, just what else can you add to such a wee wee figure? Head articulation? Remember, he already carries the face/brainmaster gimmick etc.

Besides, if I/you have Starsaber now, I'd be playing with his default/super mode over the Brainmaster.

I'm saying it's possible and feasible to give a small figure articulation. I'm sorry if you enjoy the crappy Spike that doesn't even look like Spike or have a face (!), but wait, not sorry.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:18 am

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megatronus wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
megatronus wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Given the size,I don't think it will be feasible to give the Brain of Courage full articulation. It's like hoping that the "Spike" figure in MP-10 to have the same features (which will rack up the costs)

I think the Spike argument is less fair, given the existence of Dr Wu's Partners.


Dr. Wu is a 3rd party company, those guys can charge as much as they want. They aren't tied up as much as Tomy has to deal with costs despite the typical stereotype against multinationals/big corporations short selling us.

Remember how there were such big plans for UM? But costs was the primary concern in one of the interviews released.

And one thing, just what else can you add to such a wee wee figure? Head articulation? Remember, he already carries the face/brainmaster gimmick etc.

Besides, if I/you have Starsaber now, I'd be playing with his default/super mode over the Brainmaster.

I'm saying it's possible and feasible to give a small figure articulation. I'm sorry if you enjoy the crappy Spike that doesn't even look like Spike or have a face (!), but wait, not sorry.


FACE PALM!

Nowhere did I say I enjoyed the MP-10 Spike figure to a point of putting it on a pedestal.I used it as an analogy about incorporating too much impractical features to an accessory that will, if at all,add to the awesome playability of an already great product....the MP-10. I bought MP-10 for Optimus! Good that Tomy included Spike........period. Could they have put more articulation? Maybe? Add more facial details? Doubt it....the scale is just too small (by the by, if you mean details like the figs in Human Alliance.....well no thanks)

Speaking of details, I'd rather the type used on the KISS Players figs.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:35 am

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I could be wrong but looking at the comparison pics but the brain component looks a tad smaller then the older brainmasters. Put me in the category thoughof not caring about his poseability, MP Star Saber is the real prize for me, and I need him to have his face :lol:
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Fri Aug 29, 2014 3:43 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:I could be wrong but looking at the comparison pics but the brain component looks a tad smaller then the older brainmasters. Put me in the category thoughof not caring about his poseability, MP Star Saber is the real prize for me, and I need him to have his face :lol:


This! :BOWDOWN:

Now that the OP started the ball rolling (note sarcasm)concerning the Brain of "Courage" lack of features. Here are the features I want to be added to the Brainmaster

1.Full 360 degree head rotation
2.Hip swivel
3.Light piping eyes
4.Shoulder and elbow points of articulation
5.Fist can be rotated, fingers poseable can grip weapons
6.Thigh, knee and feet fully articulated
7.Detailed paint apps on the face which can be appreciated with a magnifying loupe

Did I miss anything else >:oP
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:27 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:I could be wrong but looking at the comparison pics but the brain component looks a tad smaller then the older brainmasters.
I think we're well past only a "tad" smaller at this point.

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fenrir72 wrote:Now that the OP started the ball rolling (note sarcasm)concerning the Brain of "Courage" Here are the features I want to be added to the Brainmaster

1.Full 360 degree head rotation
2.Hip swivel
3.Light piping eyes
4.Shoulder and elbow points of articulation
5.Fist can be rotated, fingers poseable can grip weapons
6.Thigh, knee and feet fully articulated
7.Detailed paint apps on the face which can be appreciated with a magnifying loupe

Did I miss anything else >:oP
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:40 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:I could be wrong but looking at the comparison pics but the brain component looks a tad smaller then the older brainmasters.
I think we're well past only a "tad" smaller at this point.

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fenrir72 wrote:Now that the OP started the ball rolling (note sarcasm)concerning the Brain of "Courage" Here are the features I want to be added to the Brainmaster

1.Full 360 degree head rotation
2.Hip swivel
3.Light piping eyes
4.Shoulder and elbow points of articulation
5.Fist can be rotated, fingers poseable can grip weapons
6.Thigh, knee and feet fully articulated
7.Detailed paint apps on the face which can be appreciated with a magnifying loupe

Did I miss anything else >:oP
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8. Brushes your teeth.
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Hey, I want one that did all those for me, too! :P


And tucks you in the bed before you sleep. :lol:

Seriously, given that size, I seriously wonder just what else can you add to the "brain". Not that he ever showed up in the show except during the combination sequences. It seems that Tomy will just focus/enhance the MP based on what was shown in the cartoon. UM for example never showed up as naked and white Optimus so they got their butts covered by having n MP with no core robot (too bad that Lambor didn't come with a rocket pack.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Aug 29, 2014 3:01 pm

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There's also 10: light and sounds gimmick and of course the legendary number 11: automates the whole star saber transformation process exactly like the cartoon and with accompanying music :P

@Sabrblade, in my defense, my European version of Braver has been packed up ready for move so I couldn't do a comparison with Super Fire Convoy :lol:
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby megatronus » Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:06 am

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Wow, some people are really capable of flying off the handle when they feel like it. :roll:
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Postby fenrir72 » Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:04 am

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megatronus wrote:Wow, some people are really capable of flying off the handle when they feel like it. :roll:


:roll:

Could have fooled me who's handle flew first >:oP
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby megatronus » Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:24 am

Motto: "I would have waited an eternity for this."
Weapon: Temperature Variant H20 Gun
fenrir72 wrote:
megatronus wrote:Wow, some people are really capable of flying off the handle when they feel like it. :roll:


:roll:

Could have fooled me who's handle flew first >:oP

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Aug 30, 2014 7:51 am

Motto: "It's not done right if it's not done well."
Weapon: Saber Blade
You know, I'm surprised no one's made this kind of joke yet:

They're Saber and the Brain
Yes, Saber and the Brain
One is a swordsman, the other's just plain
Stands in the chest in place
Turns into his face
They're Saber, they're Saber and the Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain

Before each fight is done, they strive protect us
Fighting all Decepticons, they'll defeat Dezsaras

They're Saber and the Brain
Yes, Saber and the Brain
The V-Star shows up, to let them "Battle Up!"
As Star Saber strikes first
He'll save the universe
They're Saber, they're Saber and the Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain, SAY GO!





EDIT: Two more size comparison pics. This time it's Saber in his torso configuration for his "Battle Up!" combination with the V-Star to form Star Saber:
https://twitter.com/TFYUKI/status/505552098524553216
https://twitter.com/TFYUKI/status/505570002057953280

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