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Optimizzy wrote:fenrir72 wrote:william-james88 wrote:bvzxa wrote:Don't forget the Transformers Go! Optimus EX Prime we never got as well.
Oh man, and all those combiners!
The EX Prime as a robot was great. Reminds me of the current TT Shinkansen line. The dragon mode and torso modeReally for the diehard fan if you want to track them.
Why it never made the cut to the domestic market.......mystery for the ages (that or Hasbro wasn't interested).Also noticed that TFGo! combiner teams were very limited. Not even hobbysearch carried it.
I could never bring myself to get go! Optimus. Go prime, however, is one of of my favorites. And I love the "predacons" from transformers go. Those head sculpts are worth every penny.
Sabrblade wrote:Rail Racer is awesome and no one can/will convince me of otherwise.Flashwave wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:and based on the same failed design of rid railracerwilliam-james88 wrote:bvzxa wrote:Don't forget the Transformers Go! Optimus EX Prime we never got as well.
Oh man, and all those combiners!![]()
DEM'S FIGHTIN' WORDs. Choose your pistol, and start your 10 paces. I'm taking 3, so you best be lucky.
Seriously though, Railracer was a much better overall than the Go! Combiners. Sure, they suffered from long legs, but then so do I. And really, RR's only excess parts were Rapid Run's legs, which were I believe intended to be jetpack or wings and just not fully executed. (Rapid Run's feet have round black things that look like thrust nozzles uner his arches. If you point the rail wheel down and the toes down, instant ducting.) Otherwise, he's got small waist armor and that's it. And all his parts integrated. No goofy head-dresses, no overly clunky bot modes or humongous blocks hanging off their backs.![]()
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Flashwave wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:and based on the same failed design of rid railracerwilliam-james88 wrote:bvzxa wrote:Don't forget the Transformers Go! Optimus EX Prime we never got as well.
Oh man, and all those combiners!![]()
DEM'S FIGHTIN' WORDs. Choose your pistol, and start your 10 paces. I'm taking 3, so you best be lucky.
Seriously though, Railracer was a much better overall than the Go! Combiners. Sure, they suffered from long legs, but then so do I. And really, RR's only excess parts were Rapid Run's legs, which were I believe intended to be jetpack or wings and just not fully executed. (Rapid Run's feet have round black things that look like thrust nozzles uner his arches. If you point the rail wheel down and the toes down, instant ducting.) Otherwise, he's got small waist armor and that's it. And all his parts integrated. No goofy head-dresses, no overly clunky bot modes or humongous blocks hanging off their backs.
-Kanrabat- wrote:Flashwave wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:and based on the same failed design of rid railracerwilliam-james88 wrote:bvzxa wrote:Don't forget the Transformers Go! Optimus EX Prime we never got as well.
Oh man, and all those combiners!![]()
DEM'S FIGHTIN' WORDs. Choose your pistol, and start your 10 paces. I'm taking 3, so you best be lucky.
Seriously though, Railracer was a much better overall than the Go! Combiners. Sure, they suffered from long legs, but then so do I. And really, RR's only excess parts were Rapid Run's legs, which were I believe intended to be jetpack or wings and just not fully executed. (Rapid Run's feet have round black things that look like thrust nozzles uner his arches. If you point the rail wheel down and the toes down, instant ducting.) Otherwise, he's got small waist armor and that's it. And all his parts integrated. No goofy head-dresses, no overly clunky bot modes or humongous blocks hanging off their backs.
Guess it's all come down to prefference. For me, a combiner must be good in ALL forms. Individual parts, vehicles, bots (if applicable) and combined. Railracer have great vehicle form, but kinda derpy bot modes and the combined mode completely miss-use the 3rd member by making him a tiny waist and kibbles. Combined mode still look decent, but it's shortcoming made me pass it.
The GO! Combiners are much worst. Especially the beast one. Ridiculous bot and beast modes completely ruin the figure. A decent combined mode is the only redeaming feature, but it's not enough for me to buy them. Even on clearance.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
fenrir72 wrote:Optimizzy wrote:fenrir72 wrote:william-james88 wrote:bvzxa wrote:Don't forget the Transformers Go! Optimus EX Prime we never got as well.
Oh man, and all those combiners!
The EX Prime as a robot was great. Reminds me of the current TT Shinkansen line. The dragon mode and torso modeReally for the diehard fan if you want to track them.
Why it never made the cut to the domestic market.......mystery for the ages (that or Hasbro wasn't interested).Also noticed that TFGo! combiner teams were very limited. Not even hobbysearch carried it.
I could never bring myself to get go! Optimus. Go prime, however, is one of of my favorites. And I love the "predacons" from transformers go. Those head sculpts are worth every penny.
Trukk notMunkyTrain Syndrome?
Optimizzy wrote:
Actually no. I collect all OPs and the more variety in alt mode the better. When I found out he turned into a train I was stoked. Then I saw pics and was disappointed with the result. And that dragon mode. It just feels like he tries to do everything but doesn't pull it off. You get him? Does the kibble restrict his movement a lot? I'm still considering him but I just don't know. He just doesn't seem that well planned.
You mean I DON'T get to shoot anybody? aww...Hellscream9999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Rail Racer is awesome and no one can/will convince me of otherwise.Flashwave wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:and based on the same failed design of rid railracerwilliam-james88 wrote:bvzxa wrote:Don't forget the Transformers Go! Optimus EX Prime we never got as well.
Oh man, and all those combiners!![]()
DEM'S FIGHTIN' WORDs. Choose your pistol, and start your 10 paces. I'm taking 3, so you best be lucky.
Seriously though, Railracer was a much better overall than the Go! Combiners. Sure, they suffered from long legs, but then so do I. And really, RR's only excess parts were Rapid Run's legs, which were I believe intended to be jetpack or wings and just not fully executed. (Rapid Run's feet have round black things that look like thrust nozzles uner his arches. If you point the rail wheel down and the toes down, instant ducting.) Otherwise, he's got small waist armor and that's it. And all his parts integrated. No goofy head-dresses, no overly clunky bot modes or humongous blocks hanging off their backs.![]()
Whoa, blowin' my words way outta proportion, I have no qualms against RR, I love him, he's a great figure; I meant design from the standpoint of the concept of: 1 figure is the legs, 1 figure is the chest, head, and arms, and 1 figure is the stomach and a massive backpack. Let's all admit it together, it's not the best way to combine 3 robots together.
This leads to overt back-heaviness, and the additional kibble (if there is any - lookin' at you Go! figures) doesn't help. RR shows that it can be done right, the Go! figures show us what happens when it doesn't.
Let's just chill out
Flashwave wrote:You mean I DON'T get to shoot anybody? aww...Hellscream9999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Rail Racer is awesome and no one can/will convince me of otherwise.Flashwave wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:and based on the same failed design of rid railracerwilliam-james88 wrote:bvzxa wrote:Don't forget the Transformers Go! Optimus EX Prime we never got as well.
Oh man, and all those combiners!![]()
DEM'S FIGHTIN' WORDs. Choose your pistol, and start your 10 paces. I'm taking 3, so you best be lucky.
Seriously though, Railracer was a much better overall than the Go! Combiners. Sure, they suffered from long legs, but then so do I. And really, RR's only excess parts were Rapid Run's legs, which were I believe intended to be jetpack or wings and just not fully executed. (Rapid Run's feet have round black things that look like thrust nozzles uner his arches. If you point the rail wheel down and the toes down, instant ducting.) Otherwise, he's got small waist armor and that's it. And all his parts integrated. No goofy head-dresses, no overly clunky bot modes or humongous blocks hanging off their backs.![]()
Whoa, blowin' my words way outta proportion, I have no qualms against RR, I love him, he's a great figure; I meant design from the standpoint of the concept of: 1 figure is the legs, 1 figure is the chest, head, and arms, and 1 figure is the stomach and a massive backpack. Let's all admit it together, it's not the best way to combine 3 robots together.
This leads to overt back-heaviness, and the additional kibble (if there is any - lookin' at you Go! figures) doesn't help. RR shows that it can be done right, the Go! figures show us what happens when it doesn't.
Let's just chill out![]()
I dunno, far as tri-combiners, I really think Railracer knocked it out of the park. Considering his combiner style is what (de)evolved into Energon (Now THERE's a flail of limbs going everywhere) and the alternative to combing three robots together is
Transformers Victory Road Caesar Gallery
Hey! I can replicate this by attaching CW Motormaster to CW Wildrider and Dead-End! REPAINT!
I can't agree with that. I can agree that the Go! figures failed to meet the same standards that Rail Racer set, but I just can't call that a failed concept or a less than efficent way of combining three robots.It would be nice if Rapid Run had been able to integrate batter (more stomach/less backpack), either as a slightly longer and or thicker torso, but as a "massive" backpac, if you turn Rapid Run's hips over 180 before combing, his legs chamber nicely against his spne and his "backpack" is not any deeper than say CW Optimus'. As for back-heavyness, All of the Railracer complaints I've ever heard have come from loose hip and knee joints in Midnight Express. I truely cant even keep ME's own body upright sometimes, he wants to flop over on his hip joint. Back int he day, I had RR in all kinds of poses
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Hellscream9999 wrote:Flashwave wrote:You mean I DON'T get to shoot anybody? aww...Hellscream9999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Rail Racer is awesome and no one can/will convince me of otherwise.Flashwave wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:and based on the same failed design of rid railracerwilliam-james88 wrote:bvzxa wrote:Don't forget the Transformers Go! Optimus EX Prime we never got as well.
Oh man, and all those combiners!![]()
DEM'S FIGHTIN' WORDs. Choose your pistol, and start your 10 paces. I'm taking 3, so you best be lucky.
Seriously though, Railracer was a much better overall than the Go! Combiners. Sure, they suffered from long legs, but then so do I. And really, RR's only excess parts were Rapid Run's legs, which were I believe intended to be jetpack or wings and just not fully executed. (Rapid Run's feet have round black things that look like thrust nozzles uner his arches. If you point the rail wheel down and the toes down, instant ducting.) Otherwise, he's got small waist armor and that's it. And all his parts integrated. No goofy head-dresses, no overly clunky bot modes or humongous blocks hanging off their backs.![]()
Whoa, blowin' my words way outta proportion, I have no qualms against RR, I love him, he's a great figure; I meant design from the standpoint of the concept of: 1 figure is the legs, 1 figure is the chest, head, and arms, and 1 figure is the stomach and a massive backpack. Let's all admit it together, it's not the best way to combine 3 robots together.
This leads to overt back-heaviness, and the additional kibble (if there is any - lookin' at you Go! figures) doesn't help. RR shows that it can be done right, the Go! figures show us what happens when it doesn't.
Let's just chill out![]()
I dunno, far as tri-combiners, I really think Railracer knocked it out of the park. Considering his combiner style is what (de)evolved into Energon (Now THERE's a flail of limbs going everywhere) and the alternative to combing three robots together is
Transformers Victory Road Caesar Gallery
Hey! I can replicate this by attaching CW Motormaster to CW Wildrider and Dead-End! REPAINT!
I can't agree with that. I can agree that the Go! figures failed to meet the same standards that Rail Racer set, but I just can't call that a failed concept or a less than efficent way of combining three robots.It would be nice if Rapid Run had been able to integrate batter (more stomach/less backpack), either as a slightly longer and or thicker torso, but as a "massive" backpac, if you turn Rapid Run's hips over 180 before combing, his legs chamber nicely against his spne and his "backpack" is not any deeper than say CW Optimus'. As for back-heavyness, All of the Railracer complaints I've ever heard have come from loose hip and knee joints in Midnight Express. I truely cant even keep ME's own body upright sometimes, he wants to flop over on his hip joint. Back int he day, I had RR in all kinds of poses
RR is good, not great, but really really good. He could've used a bit longer on the ol' design table; longer thighs, detented thighs and knees, etc. Also, I wasn't really speaking of just transformers (you forgot magnaboss and tripredacus, those were really successful) but power rangers had the megazord with the dolphin, lion, and falcon, it had a unique and balanced design and an interesting way to combine - don't say they didn't have ind. bot modes, I'm talking success of merging 3 figures into one - you could even look at armada o/p jetfire and overload, technically overload adds as much to the overall figure as rapid run.
Flashwave wrote:Ah. yes, you're right. I did forget Magnaboss. Don't have Trip[edacus, so I;ll take your word for him. Liked Magmatron too, althouigh since the individuals don't have their own Robot modes, not sure that counts as much.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Hellscream9999 wrote:Flashwave wrote:Ah. yes, you're right. I did forget Magnaboss. Don't have Trip[edacus, so I;ll take your word for him. Liked Magmatron too, althouigh since the individuals don't have their own Robot modes, not sure that counts as much.
He certainly made a much more satisfactory megazord than most megazords (he even had knees) tripedacus is better overall than magnaboss, if only due to the decrease in the number of joints in the legs, and a ball-jointed neck; ramhorn outright blows, but the other two are solid. Ramhorn has one of the most over-the-top, obscenely complex designs ever, and his robot mode is dumb and ugly and pointless (as a kid I hated trying to transform him, the instructions sucked so hard) BUT the 3 clawed hand mod he creates is so boss
william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Flashwave wrote:Ah. yes, you're right. I did forget Magnaboss. Don't have Trip[edacus, so I;ll take your word for him. Liked Magmatron too, althouigh since the individuals don't have their own Robot modes, not sure that counts as much.
He certainly made a much more satisfactory megazord than most megazords (he even had knees) tripedacus is better overall than magnaboss, if only due to the decrease in the number of joints in the legs, and a ball-jointed neck; ramhorn outright blows, but the other two are solid. Ramhorn has one of the most over-the-top, obscenely complex designs ever, and his robot mode is dumb and ugly and pointless (as a kid I hated trying to transform him, the instructions sucked so hard) BUT the 3 clawed hand mod he creates is so boss
I could not agree more with everything being said here. Yes, the beast wars combiners are great examples of 3 robots pulling their weight to make a great combiner. Yes, Tripedicus is better since it is more evened out with one bot making the arms, one making the torso and another making the legs. And yes, Ramhorn is an overly crazy design but works well in combined mode. For some reason, he is so simple when it comes to combining him, and you would never think that.
Also, while I wish Ironhide (the elephant) didnt have a robot mode, that Prowl is so detailed and has such accomplished beast and robot modes that would wouldnt think it could combine as well.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Optimizzy wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Optimizzy wrote:fenrir72 wrote:william-james88 wrote:bvzxa wrote:Don't forget the Transformers Go! Optimus EX Prime we never got as well.
Oh man, and all those combiners!
The EX Prime as a robot was great. Reminds me of the current TT Shinkansen line. The dragon mode and torso modeReally for the diehard fan if you want to track them.
Why it never made the cut to the domestic market.......mystery for the ages (that or Hasbro wasn't interested).Also noticed that TFGo! combiner teams were very limited. Not even hobbysearch carried it.
I could never bring myself to get go! Optimus. Go prime, however, is one of of my favorites. And I love the "predacons" from transformers go. Those head sculpts are worth every penny.
Trukk notMunkyTrain Syndrome?
Actually no. I collect all OPs and the more variety in alt mode the better. When I found out he turned into a train I was stoked. Then I saw pics and was disappointed with the result. And that dragon mode. It just feels like he tries to do everything but doesn't pull it off. You get him? Does the kibble restrict his movement a lot? I'm still considering him but I just don't know. He just doesn't seem that well planned.
shajaki wrote:Flashwave wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Flashwave wrote:You mean I DON'T get to shoot anybody? aww...Hellscream9999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Rail Racer is awesome and no one can/will convince me of otherwise.Flashwave wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:and based on the same failed design of rid railracerwilliam-james88 wrote:bvzxa wrote:Don't forget the Transformers Go! Optimus EX Prime we never got as well.
Oh man, and all those combiners!![]()
DEM'S FIGHTIN' WORDs. Choose your pistol, and start your 10 paces. I'm taking 3, so you best be lucky.
Seriously though, Railracer was a much better overall than the Go! Combiners. Sure, they suffered from long legs, but then so do I. And really, RR's only excess parts were Rapid Run's legs, which were I believe intended to be jetpack or wings and just not fully executed. (Rapid Run's feet have round black things that look like thrust nozzles uner his arches. If you point the rail wheel down and the toes down, instant ducting.) Otherwise, he's got small waist armor and that's it. And all his parts integrated. No goofy head-dresses, no overly clunky bot modes or humongous blocks hanging off their backs.![]()
Whoa, blowin' my words way outta proportion, I have no qualms against RR, I love him, he's a great figure; I meant design from the standpoint of the concept of: 1 figure is the legs, 1 figure is the chest, head, and arms, and 1 figure is the stomach and a massive backpack. Let's all admit it together, it's not the best way to combine 3 robots together.
This leads to overt back-heaviness, and the additional kibble (if there is any - lookin' at you Go! figures) doesn't help. RR shows that it can be done right, the Go! figures show us what happens when it doesn't.
Let's just chill out![]()
I dunno, far as tri-combiners, I really think Railracer knocked it out of the park. Considering his combiner style is what (de)evolved into Energon (Now THERE's a flail of limbs going everywhere) and the alternative to combing three robots together is
Transformers Victory Road Caesar Gallery
Hey! I can replicate this by attaching CW Motormaster to CW Wildrider and Dead-End! REPAINT!
I can't agree with that. I can agree that the Go! figures failed to meet the same standards that Rail Racer set, but I just can't call that a failed concept or a less than efficent way of combining three robots.It would be nice if Rapid Run had been able to integrate batter (more stomach/less backpack), either as a slightly longer and or thicker torso, but as a "massive" backpac, if you turn Rapid Run's hips over 180 before combing, his legs chamber nicely against his spne and his "backpack" is not any deeper than say CW Optimus'. As for back-heavyness, All of the Railracer complaints I've ever heard have come from loose hip and knee joints in Midnight Express. I truely cant even keep ME's own body upright sometimes, he wants to flop over on his hip joint. Back int he day, I had RR in all kinds of poses
RR is good, not great, but really really good. He could've used a bit longer on the ol' design table; longer thighs, detented thighs and knees, etc. Also, I wasn't really speaking of just transformers (you forgot magnaboss and tripredacus, those were really successful) but power rangers had the megazord with the dolphin, lion, and falcon, it had a unique and balanced design and an interesting way to combine - don't say they didn't have ind. bot modes, I'm talking success of merging 3 figures into one - you could even look at armada o/p jetfire and overload, technically overload adds as much to the overall figure as rapid run.
Ah. yes, you're right. I did forget Magnaboss. Don't have Trip[edacus, so I;ll take your word for him. Liked Magmatron too, althouigh since the individuals don't have their own Robot modes, not sure that counts as much.
Guys please, watch the heavy quotes.
Less work than adding me to a quote stream I wasn't a part of.-Kanrabat- wrote:But... Selecting and deleting the overquote that are less relevant is WAY too much work. :/
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Some of those were pretty cool (Railracer does look sexy) and some look like an epic joke (Go OP dragon mode).
As for the adventure line, trying to steer things back on track, They need a good optimus like that over in the USA. It actually works in size and I love a working trailer.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
-Kanrabat- wrote:Hey, he's OPTIMAS PLIME!![]()
Not "Something something Convoy".
Interesting.
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Any one else find the red eye glow creepy and evil looking?
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
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