Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
uuuuuuUUUUUGGGHHHHHHH I KNOW RIGHT? I don't want to spend 200+ on their Nemesis Not-Prime when all i want is to upgrade my TFCC ScourgeGauntlet101010 wrote:Hm. Kinda like the US version better. But it's not like there's a big difference.
Hopefully this will push Maketoys to release their Battle Tanker as an accessory for this. They have their own Scourge, but I just want the trailer part.
shajaki wrote:Lookit this.prjkt wrote:I'm kinda OK with the Takara version, as it'll be cheaper for me to import here than the club version, and I like the extra red accents around the shoulders
If patient, you can get a TFCC Scourge for about 50 bucks. With the history of Japanese Con exclusive figures have (and I think BC will be popular) I really feel that once it's all said and done he'll cost about 100.
Of course there's time. If you wait, and find that BC is too expensive, Scourge will still be there. I'm not trying to institute panic here
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'm not sure from the pics, is Black Convoy using the alternate head? I find it hard to believe that the Bot-Con figures are the only use of that head.
Gaze upon its infernal beauty!JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'm not sure from the pics, is Black Convoy using the alternate head? I find it hard to believe that the Bot-Con figures are the only use of that head.
Regular head. The alternate one is a skull-like head with a misshapen helmet.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
Rated X wrote:I dont see the point of black convoy because the TFCC version already exists. Anybody who wanted Scourge from that mold (including people from Japan) already have it. Calling a figure "exclusive" in the age of online sales is a joke. They need to let it go already. Just call it a 2nd run with minor paint app changes.
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By that reasoning, why does Takara release ANY Transformers whatsoever? Everyone in the world should just buy the Hasbro ones off the internet?Rated X wrote:I dont see the point of black convoy because the TFCC version already exists.
So EVERY SINGLE PERSON who wanted a Black Convoy/Scourge bought one when TFCC released theirs? Yeah. I'm sure.Rated X wrote:Anybody who wanted Scourge from that mold (including people from Japan) already have it.
Exclusive means limited production numbers. Not that it's unattainable.Rated X wrote:Calling a figure "exclusive" in the age of online sales is a joke.
It's not a second run. Takara didn't make the first one. TFCC did. Completely different entities.Rated X wrote:They need to let it go already. Just call it a 2nd run with minor paint app changes.
shajaki wrote:X... do you just hate for the sake of hating? How could a different version of this figure being released to a different group of people POSSIBLY upset you?
shajaki wrote:By that reasoning, why does Takara release ANY Transformers whatsoever? Everyone in the world should just buy the Hasbro ones off the internet?
shajaki wrote: So EVERY SINGLE PERSON who wanted a Black Convoy/Scourge bought one when TFCC released theirs? Yeah. I'm sure.
shajaki wrote: Exclusive means limited production numbers. Not that it's unattainable.
shajaki wrote:You don't always get under my skin X, I usually just chuckle at your absurdity. But Jesus man, get a grip.
Rated X wrote:They need to let it go already.
I stated I usually just chuckle at your absurdity. So my thanks for once again saying something so truly ridiculous that I can laugh againRated X wrote:I believe Hasbro versions only exist to justify Takara’s continued pricey existence for an imaginary market.
Rated X wrote:shajaki wrote:X... do you just hate for the sake of hating? How could a different version of this figure being released to a different group of people POSSIBLY upset you?
In the age of online sales, there is no “different group of people”. When you release a figure, you release it to the world. Every online retailer and their mother has them for sale. (Hence Takara Unite Defensor gift set)
shajaki wrote:By that reasoning, why does Takara release ANY Transformers whatsoever? Everyone in the world should just buy the Hasbro ones off the internet?
In another thread, I stated I believe Hasbro versions only exist to justify Takara’s continued pricey existence for an imaginary market.
They all come from the same mold that isn’t even located in Japan. 25 cents worth of extra paint apps and the price doubles.
A unified worldwide release would be the ethical solution, but it would not be a profitable one.
Japan doesn't have the TFCC. This is the first release of that mold in Scourge colours in Japan. Importing into Japan is expensive so naturally a domestic release- even an exclusive one- is preferable to Japanese fans.All this “exclusive” hype is an attempt to make people sell their TFCC Scourge and get the same thing with a bit more light piping and no G2 faction logo. Serious black Prime collectors pay big bucks to get them in every Prime mold. Anybody in Japan who wanted this mold in black already has the TFCC version. Takara is getting greedy here. The reissue should be $29.99 like any other Takara deluxe figure.
shajaki wrote: So EVERY SINGLE PERSON who wanted a Black Convoy/Scourge bought one when TFCC released theirs? Yeah. I'm sure.
There’s still some on e-bay so I imagine the die hards all got theirs. The TFCC version was the real exclusive. This is a slightly modified reissue being dubbed an “exclusive” for pure profit. Im not saying every TF collector has this mold in black, I’m just saying the hardcore black Prime collectors already do.
shajaki wrote: Exclusive means limited production numbers. Not that it's unattainable.
Whats so limited about a reissue minus a few paint apps ? Remember the Asia Exclusive Hot/Rod/Galvatron/Cyclonus repaint set ? Hasbro removed Galvy and slapped rub signs on the other two and shipped em straight to US retail. How exclusive was that ?
[/quote]shajaki wrote:You don't always get under my skin X, I usually just chuckle at your absurdity. But Jesus man, get a grip.
I think Takara needs to get a grip. The brick and mortar days of exclusives are over. Gone are the Botcon seeker days when snobby collectors got offended when their “exclusive” saw a mass release. Internet sales destroyed the concept of “exclusives” and honestly I’m glad that happened.
Rated X wrote:In another thread, I stated I believe Hasbro versions only exist to justify Takara’s continued pricey existence for an imaginary market. They all come from the same mold that isn’t even located in Japan. 25 cents worth of extra paint apps and the price doubles. A unified worldwide release would be the ethical solution, but it would not be a profitable one. All this “exclusive” hype is an attempt to make people sell their TFCC Scourge and get the same thing with a bit more light piping and no G2 faction logo. Serious black Prime collectors pay big bucks to get them in every Prime mold. Anybody in Japan who wanted this mold in black already has the TFCC version. Takara is getting greedy here. The reissue should be $29.99 like any other Takara deluxe figure.
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megatronus wrote:The only thing I'll reply to is this:Rated X wrote:In another thread, I stated I believe Hasbro versions only exist to justify Takara’s continued pricey existence for an imaginary market. They all come from the same mold that isn’t even located in Japan. 25 cents worth of extra paint apps and the price doubles. A unified worldwide release would be the ethical solution, but it would not be a profitable one. All this “exclusive” hype is an attempt to make people sell their TFCC Scourge and get the same thing with a bit more light piping and no G2 faction logo. Serious black Prime collectors pay big bucks to get them in every Prime mold. Anybody in Japan who wanted this mold in black already has the TFCC version. Takara is getting greedy here. The reissue should be $29.99 like any other Takara deluxe figure.
Takara isn't expensive by virtue of being Takara; it's the costs associated with bringing stock into the states en masse. You really don't understand how importing a figure jacks up the cost.
Takara deluxes aren't $29.99 in Japan - they're close to $10-$15. I imagine TFCC Scourge was expensive for folks in Japan to import, so why hate on their chance to own this? Outside of the fact that some people in the States (like me) might prefer the metallic highlights over the matte teal.
megatronus wrote:The only thing I'll reply to is this:Rated X wrote:In another thread, I stated I believe Hasbro versions only exist to justify Takara’s continued pricey existence for an imaginary market. They all come from the same mold that isn’t even located in Japan. 25 cents worth of extra paint apps and the price doubles. A unified worldwide release would be the ethical solution, but it would not be a profitable one. All this “exclusive” hype is an attempt to make people sell their TFCC Scourge and get the same thing with a bit more light piping and no G2 faction logo. Serious black Prime collectors pay big bucks to get them in every Prime mold. Anybody in Japan who wanted this mold in black already has the TFCC version. Takara is getting greedy here. The reissue should be $29.99 like any other Takara deluxe figure.
Takara isn't expensive by virtue of being Takara; it's the costs associated with bringing stock into the states en masse. You really don't understand how importing a figure jacks up the cost.
Takara deluxes aren't $29.99 in Japan - they're close to $10-$15. I imagine TFCC Scourge was expensive for folks in Japan to import, so why hate on their chance to own this? Outside of the fact that some people in the States (like me) might prefer the metallic highlights over the matte teal.
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