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MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Nothing beyond the deco is in question... the paint/plastic colors are not accurate, and neither are the applications. They nailed Arcee, Chromia, and Windblade, so I don't understand why this is so wonky
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:william-james88 wrote:fenrir72 wrote:MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:shajaki wrote:How is it bizarre? Its just Beast Wars inspired.MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Blackarachnia's deco is bizarre... the chest, the arms, the hourglass, her weapon? The ****
It's not at all accurate as it could be.
Isn't this Transformers Legends Thread? Figures in the line are modern updates of the characters we know. Accuracy as in show accurate, more or less belongs to the MP line.
Legends Arcee for instance has those energon blades, from IDW but this version was given the 1986 Movie deco.
Blackwidow more or less from the TFA mold........really not accurate from the original BW fig.
Yeah exactly, this toy is based on a mold for another rendition of the character from a different show and different toyline so obviously it wont be accurate 100%. This isn't an original BW Blackarachnia mold, it never was, so I dont see why anything beyond the deco is in question.
Nothing beyond the deco is in question... the paint/plastic colors are not accurate, and neither are the applications. They nailed Arcee, Chromia, and Windblade, so I don't understand why this is so wonky
Even deco wise. BA is pretty spot on.MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:... are y'all being willfully dense? I keep saying DECO, not mold. FFS. TT nailed the lavander seen on Chromia in the G1 cartoon, and Windblade is more accurate to her IDW deco than the Hasbro release... what aren't you two understanding?
Wolfman Jake wrote:
I'm not seeing the faults with this deco on a resculpted Animated Blackarachnia. I think Takara Tomy did the best job anyone could ask of them. Everything is the right color, as far as I can see. Yes, that red hourglass on her forehead is supposed to be there. It's a faint but nonetheless present part of her character model on the original cartoon. It's easier to see in close-up shots of her face. The striping on the one set of spider legs along her forearms helps mimic her original "pincer" hands. The hourglass and yellow detailing on her waistline are to homage the spider eyes that were there in the original character model. Obviously, they're (the spider eyes) not located there on the Animated mold, but this is a nice compromise that still tries to emulate her screen portrayal as well as possible. Even the purple on her thighs is supposed to be there, although it should be on the insides, not the outsides, but once more, we're dealing with the limitations of the mold.
The chest:MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:the chest, the arms, the hourglass, her weapon?
The thighs:MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Thighs and feet should be purple, her upper arms are absolutely crazy and do not match the show model at all, the hourglass on her spider abdomen is bizzare by skipping over the already molded one in favor of painting a slab of plastic that is practically shapeless, and her breasts make no sense... translucent with gray detailing. Not accurate at all.
Glad y'all are fine with it, but I think it could have been done better, just like the remold. She has no stomach, and they could have gotten rid of the front two spider legs and put all four on her arms and tucked her robot legs away in beast mode (which could have stood a remold themselves). It's decent, but if they really wanted to make her Beast Wars accurate, they could have and chose not to... disappointing
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:... are y'all being willfully dense? I keep saying DECO, not mold. FFS. TT nailed the lavander seen on Chromia in the G1 cartoon, and Windblade is more accurate to her IDW deco than the Hasbro release... what aren't you two understanding?
Sabrblade wrote:Maybe it would help if we observed at the parts that were being considered not accurate enough.
Let's see...The chest:MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:the chest, the arms, the hourglass, her weapon?
The chest is bulbous in both show and toy form with the spider leg designs arranged in similar positions that branch out from the upper-center and curve back inward around the perimeter. The only major difference is that chest on the toy is translucent while the chest on the show is opaque.
The arms:
Due to the limitations of using this mold, the forearms are colored to emulate the claws she had in the cartoon, while the shoulders are colors to evoke the shoulders pads of her cartoon model. Granted, the upper arms are indeed the parts that deviate from the colors of cartoon model's upper arms, but that again comes from using this particular mold and having to make compromises with it. Since the entirety of both arms forms a spider leg, it makes sense for the whole of each leg to have a consistent pattern running its entire length, so the upper arms are the only parts not colored correctly for the sake of not looking weird in spider mode.
Plus, the spider legs are not on the toy's forearms since the transformation calls for them to be attached to the toy's back, what with each arm becoming a spider leg. Otherwise, had the orange spider legs been attached to the robot forearms, then the spider mode would have four of its six legs attached to two other legs instead of the spider's body.
The hourglass:
The hourglass is where it's supposed to be and decently visible, even if the one in the cartoon only mostly visible in close up shots and in proper lighting.
Unless the hourglass on her waist was the intended subject:
That's another compromise made from using this mold, since that hourglass was molded into the waist from the original version. With all the other retooling put into this mold, it probably wasn't in the budget to redo the waist to give it spider eyes on top of all the other modifications made to the mold.
The weapon:
As far we can tell, the Legends toy bears no weapon, so we can't really talk about this one.
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Thighs and feet should be purple, her upper arms are absolutely crazy and do not match the show model at all, the hourglass on her spider abdomen is bizzare by skipping over the already molded one in favor of painting a slab of plastic that is practically shapeless, and her breasts make no sense... translucent with gray detailing. Not accurate at all.
Glad y'all are fine with it, but I think it could have been done better, just like the remold. She has no stomach, and they could have gotten rid of the front two spider legs and put all four on her arms and tucked her robot legs away in beast mode (which could have stood a remold themselves). It's decent, but if they really wanted to make her Beast Wars accurate, they could have and chose not to... disappointing
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Thighs and feet should be purple
Wolfman Jake wrote:MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Thighs and feet should be purple
Her thighs are purple, just on the wrong sides, because of the molding they had to work with. Also, her feet are purple too. See?
megatronus wrote:MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Thighs and feet should be purple, her upper arms are absolutely crazy and do not match the show model at all, the hourglass on her spider abdomen is bizzare by skipping over the already molded one in favor of painting a slab of plastic that is practically shapeless, and her breasts make no sense... translucent with gray detailing. Not accurate at all.
Glad y'all are fine with it, but I think it could have been done better, just like the remold. She has no stomach, and they could have gotten rid of the front two spider legs and put all four on her arms and tucked her robot legs away in beast mode (which could have stood a remold themselves). It's decent, but if they really wanted to make her Beast Wars accurate, they could have and chose not to... disappointing
fenrir72 wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Thighs and feet should be purple
Her thighs are purple, just on the wrong sides, because of the molding they had to work with. Also, her feet are purple too. See?
Are you dense person #4 or is it #5 WJ?
Btw, based on the original source quote posted by the Martian, he really has this things about breasts......
Wolfman Jake wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Thighs and feet should be purple
Her thighs are purple, just on the wrong sides, because of the molding they had to work with. Also, her feet are purple too. See?
Are you dense person #4 or is it #5 WJ?
Btw, based on the original source quote posted by the Martian, he really has this things about breasts......
Was there ever a time when arguments could be won based on facts and rational thought?
Burn wrote:I suggest some of you (staff included ...) take a step back and calm your asses down. Seriously, calling each other dense? You ALL should know better.
fenrir72 wrote:Burn wrote:I suggest some of you (staff included ...) take a step back and calm your asses down. Seriously, calling each other dense? You ALL should know better.
Only one called us dense though...........
william-james88 wrote:Also be weary of hope in this hobby. Hope is just undiscovered disappointment.
Agamemnon, barebacked rider of flying robo-dragon, and not often constipated either...My nephew wrote:Bacon is meat candy.
Agamemnon wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Burn wrote:I suggest some of you (staff included ...) take a step back and calm your asses down. Seriously, calling each other dense? You ALL should know better.
Only one called us dense though...........
The rest was sarcastic, right? (That's how I originally read it.) Might need a sarcasm tag...![]()
I had thought, given the limitations of the mode, that this was a remarkable homage to BW BA. It's not perfect, but I don't know what would be given the flexibility of animation that doesn't carry over to actual physics...
william-james88 wrote:How did they nail Chromia? That is not at all how she looked like in the G1 show.
Would you mind pointing where those wheels are on her character model?
Earlier shipments had the blue bra piece more easily removable from her chest, while later shipments had the piece glued on (but still removable with some force).fenrir72 wrote:the wiki states that this was delayed for release back then because of some chest armor adjustments. What the heck was adjusted?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Earlier shipments had the blue bra piece more easily removable from her chest, while later shipments had the piece glued on (but still removable with some force).fenrir72 wrote:the wiki states that this was delayed for release back then because of some chest armor adjustments. What the heck was adjusted?
william-james88 wrote:Also be weary of hope in this hobby. Hope is just undiscovered disappointment.
Agamemnon, barebacked rider of flying robo-dragon, and not often constipated either...My nephew wrote:Bacon is meat candy.
Sabrblade wrote:Earlier shipments had the blue bra piece more easily removable from her chest, while later shipments had the piece glued on (but still removable with some force).fenrir72 wrote:the wiki states that this was delayed for release back then because of some chest armor adjustments. What the heck was adjusted?
fenrir72 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Earlier shipments had the blue bra piece more easily removable from her chest, while later shipments had the piece glued on (but still removable with some force).fenrir72 wrote:the wiki states that this was delayed for release back then because of some chest armor adjustments. What the heck was adjusted?
Ahh, safety ( cough cough ehem )issues then. Thanks
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