It's as I said before. These are 1980's G1 colors applied to the wrong body design. Had this been a different Springer mold altogether, one meant to evoke the original toy or cartoon model more closely, then it would work better. But this is no different than when Takara made Cloud Megatron by putting 1980's G1 Megatron colors on a toy that clearly wasn't meant to be 1980's G1 Megatron in design.Wolfman Jake wrote:Am I really the only one digging this repaint? I don't get the "the G1 paint scheme doesn't fit the mold" complaints at all. Honestly, I think a lot of people just don't want to have to rebuy this figure and are justifying sticking with what they have. Not to say that what they have (so long as it's the Hasbro version) isn't good. It was great for the time, but this is just that much better for a "Classics/neoG1" Springer.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
None of those ones are trying to pretend to be something they aren't, though. The context of those examples are pure visual homages. This Springer, however, is giving the original character his original colors in a body that isn't meant to be the body his original colors are meant for.-Kanrabat- wrote:Meh, as if putting G1 colors on something that is not is a new thing...
And sometimes, it work really well.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:None of those ones are trying to pretend to be something they aren't, though. The context of those examples are pure visual homages. This Springer, however, is giving the original character his original colors in a body that isn't meant to be the body his original colors are meant for.-Kanrabat- wrote:Meh, as if putting G1 colors on something that is not is a new thing...
And sometimes, it work really well.
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Eat my ass funpub.
Burn wrote:And this is for taking Nemesis Maximo seriously.
*high fives Silly in the face*
carytheone wrote:I can't be assed to do any better right now.
Sabrblade wrote:It's as I said before. These are 1980's G1 colors applied to the wrong body design. Had this been a different Springer mold altogether, one meant to evoke the original toy or cartoon model more closely, then it would work better. But this is no different than when Takara made Cloud Megatron by putting 1980's G1 Megatron colors on a toy that clearly wasn't meant to be 1980's G1 Megatron in design.Wolfman Jake wrote:Am I really the only one digging this repaint? I don't get the "the G1 paint scheme doesn't fit the mold" complaints at all. Honestly, I think a lot of people just don't want to have to rebuy this figure and are justifying sticking with what they have. Not to say that what they have (so long as it's the Hasbro version) isn't good. It was great for the time, but this is just that much better for a "Classics/neoG1" Springer.
Wolfman Jake wrote:Then again, what about Generations Blurr? That's not his G1 alt mode or robot body, but I like Hasbro's paint job, which (unusually in most cases) is the one that is much more G1 screen and toy accurate, over Takara's, which is instead comic accurate, and admittedly very pretty with its metallic paint job. I think the perception that G1 colors don't work for a certain mold is more a matter of personal taste than a foregone conclusion. These colors work fine for me with this Springer. "Classics" is for updates of G1 characters, and even with some different alt modes and robot mode silhouettes, getting the colors right is a huge plus to making these characters evoke their original incarnations nonetheless.
william-james88 wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Then again, what about Generations Blurr? That's not his G1 alt mode or robot body, but I like Hasbro's paint job, which (unusually in most cases) is the one that is much more G1 screen and toy accurate, over Takara's, which is instead comic accurate, and admittedly very pretty with its metallic paint job. I think the perception that G1 colors don't work for a certain mold is more a matter of personal taste than a foregone conclusion. These colors work fine for me with this Springer. "Classics" is for updates of G1 characters, and even with some different alt modes and robot mode silhouettes, getting the colors right is a huge plus to making these characters evoke their original incarnations nonetheless.
I hate that blurr, I have no clue why he is liked at all. Firstly, it is odd how such an important character is just a repaint and secondly, a repaint of a toy sporting loads of kibble. It totally takes away from the swift and lean design he should have to inspire speed.
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:A proper Blurr light on kibble and high on speed and badass-ery is needed
Nemesis Maximo wrote:I'm sure many of you are aware of my feelings for the color yellow, but I'll reiterated them:
I HATE YELLOW.
And with that said, this really kind of appeals to me. I don't have enough green in my Autobot ranks, and it's a pretty shade with some nice other hues and tints thrown in. Maybe, just maybe...
SillySpringer wrote:My friend here on Seibertron.com found an image of the Legends Decepticon feme's box art:
Thanks bro you rock!
That's a bit of a different case. Generations Blurr was an attempt to make a toy of IDW Blurr without having to make a new mold for him (kinda like what Fun Pub did for TFSS Chromedome). They took the Drift mold which had a similar kind of shoulder kibble that swings back like in Guido Guidi's design for IDW Blurr:Wolfman Jake wrote:Then again, what about Generations Blurr?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:And for Blurr, unlike Springer, his IDW character already had a color layout that was much closer to that of his 1980's media counterpart than IDW Springer's was to 1980's media Springer's. So if either Hasbro or Takara had instead decided to color the IDW-based Blurr more faithfully to the Blurr of the 1980's media, the result wouldn't look as jarring as this new Springer does with most of his yellow being replaced with green.
fenrir72 wrote:Ryan's recent images of UM does justice to the actual thing. Just opened UM and compared to the plastic used on the domestic version this icon best sums this up
Amazing job TT. Also, the policeman goggles on UM translates better here.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Hellscream9999 wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Ryan's recent images of UM does justice to the actual thing. Just opened UM and compared to the plastic used on the domestic version this icon best sums this up
Amazing job TT. Also, the policeman goggles on UM translates better here.
Is the plastic quality that much better than hasbro's?
I've seriously been looking for yet more reasons to get him, and between this and the paint apps, I might cave and slaughter my poor wallet, but $70 is still a bit much, but for paint, plastic and qc, I suppose I could justify it
If the Takara version never existed would you still think the same? Hasbro made the figure first and it is unambiguously meant be IDW comic Blurr. Takara just did a better attempt in the color department than Hasbro did because Takara has proven time and again to be able to do better in that department than Hasbro.Wolfman Jake wrote:I don't think Hasbro was going for comic accuracy with Generations Blurr, though.
Not... really:Wolfman Jake wrote:The Hasbro version has hues of blue strategically placed on the robot mode to better approximate where those colors were on the G1 animation model.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Wolfman Jake wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Ryan's recent images of UM does justice to the actual thing. Just opened UM and compared to the plastic used on the domestic version this icon best sums this up
Amazing job TT. Also, the policeman goggles on UM translates better here.
Is the plastic quality that much better than hasbro's?
I've seriously been looking for yet more reasons to get him, and between this and the paint apps, I might cave and slaughter my poor wallet, but $70 is still a bit much, but for paint, plastic and qc, I suppose I could justify it
I think fenrir72 was talking about the plastic colors. The plastic quality and QC are almost definitely the same. It's a myth that Takara somehow uses different materials than Hasbro. Their releases are made in the exact same factories. It's a difference of choice of plastic colors and paint applications, not physical production.
chaosalphaandomega wrote:SillySpringer wrote:My friend Chaosalphaandomega here on Seibertron.com found an image of the Legends Decepticon feme's box art:
Thanks bro you rock!
Eyy It's no problem, I'm surprised no one mentioned it here,
SillySpringer wrote:Even now, everyone else in the thread seems to be ignoring it!
Delta Magnus wrote:...And predictably, the same old people will complain about Yuki's sense of humour.
fenrir72 wrote:Delta Magnus wrote:...And predictably, the same old people will complain about Yuki's sense of humour.
Oh BURNED! I recall the sl@g when he first posted those PollyAnna poses of Arcee a few months ago.
william-james88 wrote:SillySpringer wrote:Even now, everyone else in the thread seems to be ignoring it!
Well there isnt much to go on. Half of it isnt new and the other half is mostly obscured and small. As the end of the month draws ear, TF Yuki will give way better photos of these boxes and there will be more worth talking about.
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