The Energon Pub

[Sabrblade]

Okay, the rest of them look great, but I'm still waiting for shots of fortress takara

What are you hoping to see?

If he has a Fortress head or a Cerebros head ("Fortress" was the name of the middle-sized figure that forms Fort Max's head in Japan).

[william-james88]

Why! My eyes why would Takara homage that! And no...I don't believe takara did this as an accident. ..

My best guess: Because Sakamoto is a continuity uber-enthusiast.

But does that mean Japan wont get the apeface colours? Because taht would be too bad, no?

Also, question for your guys, is the extra head Wheelie come with (goshooter) a new design Hasbro has not announced yet?

I actually much preffer the Hasbro system of just sellign things individually. Like that we can pick and choose. I would rather pay less and just get Wheelie on his own. For those who care, these are up on anime export, but its more pricey than the usual due to the extras these figures come with.

http://www.anime-export.com/search?search=transformers

[Cyberpath]

I wonder if Takara will make proper figures of Apeface and Snapdragon.

They created new molds of Groove and Blast Off during CW/UW..

[william-james88]

I wonder if Takara will make proper figures of Apeface and Snapdragon.

They created new molds of Groove and Blast Off during CW/UW..

I would also include that heavy remold of Grimlock and the totally original leader class Optimus for RID as new things they made last year when Hasbro didnt.

[Crosscheck]

I wonder if Takara will make proper figures of Apeface and Snapdragon.

They created new molds of Groove and Blast Off during CW/UW..

I Hope so. I need them in my life. I want a full figure of Nightbeat and Siren, but so maybe Takara will do Minerva and Hasbro will release it as Nightbeat here.

[william-james88]

I wonder if Takara will make proper figures of Apeface and Snapdragon.

They created new molds of Groove and Blast Off during CW/UW..

I Hope so. I need them in my life. I want a full figure of Nightbeat and Siren, but so maybe Takara will do Minerva and Hasbro will release it as Nightbeat here.

I think we will see something similar to what Takara did with the fembot legends toys of last year. There is enough mold variety that for more niche headmasters, they could so some slight retooling and new paint and give us characters we wouldnt get from Hasbro.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I just want my Nightbeat

[Cyberpath]

I wonder if Takara will make proper figures of Apeface and Snapdragon.

They created new molds of Groove and Blast Off during CW/UW..

I Hope so. I need them in my life. I want a full figure of Nightbeat and Siren, but so maybe Takara will do Minerva and Hasbro will release it as Nightbeat here.

I think we will see something similar to what Takara did with the fembot legends toys of last year. There is enough mold variety that for more niche headmasters, they could so some slight retooling and new paint and give us characters we wouldnt get from Hasbro.

I think the Horrorcons will require new molds though? Because Triple Changers are more complex, especially when it's a jet and a beast.



Gotta say that I don't appreciate those drone things that come with the deluxe figures; I don't feel like paying extra money for them.

Wish Takara had released all of them as a separate set or sets.

[Kurona]

Mmmmmmmm that Blaster looks so sexy! They absolutely nailed him; he looks good enough to eat!
Rewind I have to agree looks better with the Hasbro version; even with the idea of show-accuracy that head design never looked good. Hasbro all the way.
Wolfwire... eh. I can go with either one he still looks amazing.
Wheelie I'm not sure about. On one hand I wanna say the takara version's better but at the same time not really... either way I'd be happy to get the hasbro version.
Which is fine because I'm planning on just getting legends class for a while.

[william-james88]

I think the Horrorcons will require new molds though? Because Triple Changers are more complex, especially when it's a jet and a beast.

Gotta say that I don't appreciate those drone things that come with the deluxe figures; I don't feel like paying extra money for them.

Wish Takara had released all of them as a separate set or sets.

I was talking about the deluxes like Minerva and the like, or a headmaster arcee. The voyagers would need new molds, yes.
And I share your sentiments, especially since i dont care for the decos used for those "drones"

Hasbro is getting my money for the majority of this line, especially Fort Max since he deco I see here is quite lackluster. Hasbro's actually highlights the sculpting better and has a nicer difference in colours. I get that its not toon accurate but to be frank (or roberta), I really dislike how this whole Fort Max thing was handled anyway, with denying hm his rightful city mode he is known for. So this is a new fort max anyway, and might as well go with the option that is easiest to get and which will opefully cost less in the end. I am super happy though that the cheaper option for me (Hasbro) also happens to have a perfectly competent deco. In case people dont remember, here it is for comparison's sake:


compared to:


Am I the only one who finds that the Hasbro one looks better, just judging it as a cool looking toy?

[Agamemnon]

That Wheelie looks much, much better. Hrm....tough choice for me. I'm going mostly Hasbro with this line, but some of these decos do look really good. Maybe I'm glad they are almost all sold out at BBTS...

[Cyberpath]

I think the Horrorcons will require new molds though? Because Triple Changers are more complex, especially when it's a jet and a beast.

Gotta say that I don't appreciate those drone things that come with the deluxe figures; I don't feel like paying extra money for them.

Wish Takara had released all of them as a separate set or sets.

I was talking about the deluxes like Minerva and the like, or a headmaster arcee. The voyagers would need new molds, yes.
And I share your sentiments, especially since i dont care for the decos used for those "drones"

You know, I think the fact that Takara painted what is clearly meant to be Apeface's beast form in Weridwolf's colours means that maybe they are working on a proper Apeface figure.

[Kurona]

I think the Horrorcons will require new molds though? Because Triple Changers are more complex, especially when it's a jet and a beast.

Gotta say that I don't appreciate those drone things that come with the deluxe figures; I don't feel like paying extra money for them.

Wish Takara had released all of them as a separate set or sets.

I was talking about the deluxes like Minerva and the like, or a headmaster arcee. The voyagers would need new molds, yes.
And I share your sentiments, especially since i dont care for the decos used for those "drones"

Hasbro is getting my money for the majority of this line, especially Fort Max since he deco I see here is quite lackluster. Hasbro's actually highlights the sculpting better and has a nicer difference in colours. I get that its not toon accurate but to be frank (or roberta), I really dislike how this whole Fort Max thing was handled anyway, with denying hm his rightful city mode he is known for. So this is a new fort max anyway, and might as well go with the option that is easiest to get and which will opefully cost less in the end. I am super happy though that the cheaper option for me (Hasbro) also happens to have a perfectly competent deco. In case people dont remember, here it is for comparison's sake:


compared to:


Am I the only one who finds that the Hasbro one looks better, just judging it as a cool looking toy?

If I was able to and wanted a fort max, I could honestly take either deco. Buuuut Japan's has a sword.

[Autobot N]

Am I the only one who finds that the Hasbro one looks better, just judging it as a cool looking toy?

I like the Hasbro version better, but mostly because of the blue eyes, which I always prefer. Which is why I would get Takara Blaster if it wasn't $15-30 more than the Hasbro version.

[Railbomb]

That Takara Fort Max looks VERY nice. The only real complaint I have with it is the translucent chest door isn't that kind-of-green it is on the original. Even Hasbro got that color right. I'm going to have to see the SDCC version before I make my final choice though.

[jgilkinson]

The gunmetal gray on Broadcast looks so much nicer than the faded gray on Blaster.

Agreed. That warmer "beige-gray" on the Hasbro version looks a lot cheaper, especially so on Power Master Optimus Prime. I have a feeling that I'll be holding out for Takara's "Ginrai" version of the figure.

No pictures of Power Master Prime/ Ginrai have been released yet have they? I agree I have bought more from Takara lately than ever before and I can't see myself going for the dull grays with hasbro over spending a bit more and getting a better product

[Wolfman Jake]

That Takara Fort Max looks VERY nice. The only real complaint I have with it is the translucent chest door isn't that kind-of-green it is on the original. Even Hasbro got that color right. I'm going to have to see the SDCC version before I make my final choice though.

Hasbro = Toy Accuracy, hence green translucent door
Takara Tomy = Cartoon Accuracy, hence blue translucent door, to match what was opaque blue on Transformers: Headmasters

Interesting side note: The original Fort Max toy had red eyes, as did the Japanese Headmasters cartoon model. However, The Season 4 model in other territories, e.g. "The Rebirth" trilogy, is the only place you see For Max with a blue visor. Might it be too much to hope Takara threw in optional blue shades, kind of like what they did for Devastator and how Metroplex was designed from the get go?

The gunmetal gray on Broadcast looks so much nicer than the faded gray on Blaster.

Agreed. That warmer "beige-gray" on the Hasbro version looks a lot cheaper, especially so on Power Master Optimus Prime. I have a feeling that I'll be holding out for Takara's "Ginrai" version of the figure.

No pictures of Power Master Prime/ Ginrai have been released yet have they? I agree I have bought more from Takara lately than ever before and I can't see myself going for the dull grays with hasbro over spending a bit more and getting a better product

Right. There have been no solicitations at all for a Takara release of Power Master Optimus Prime/Ginrai. I would be surprised if Takara didn't give it a lot better deco in terms of plastic color choices at least, and I'd be REALLY surprised if they skipped the mold altogether. We'll just have to wait and see, but like I said, I have a feeling Takara will come through for us on this, like usual.

[Prowl4]

Takara haven't shown sentinel, pm prime and astrotrain yet. Hoping they don't make them headmasters.

[Hellscream9999]

Takara haven't shown sentinel, pm prime and astrotrain yet. Hoping they don't make them headmasters.

Seriously? They didn't change Galvatron's head when everyone was sooo sure they would. They AREN'T altering they're headmaster gimmick, there is nothing to support the idea that they are or will. The best they could do is swap out the sh|t greige (grey-beige) plastic on hasbro's pmop for something much nicer looking, and they may not even release sentinel.

[Kurona]

Takara haven't shown sentinel, pm prime and astrotrain yet. Hoping they don't make them headmasters.

... I mean.
They're... they're kind of already headmasters. There isn't really any changing that.

[Prowl4]

Takara haven't shown sentinel, pm prime and astrotrain yet. Hoping they don't make them headmasters.

Seriously? They didn't change Galvatron's head when everyone was sooo sure they would. They AREN'T altering they're headmaster gimmick, there is nothing to support the idea that they are or will. The best they could do is swap out the sh|t greige (grey-beige) plastic on hasbro's pmop for something much nicer looking, and they may not even release sentinel.

And what department of takara do you work in?

[Kurona]

Takara haven't shown sentinel, pm prime and astrotrain yet. Hoping they don't make them headmasters.

Seriously? They didn't change Galvatron's head when everyone was sooo sure they would. They AREN'T altering they're headmaster gimmick, there is nothing to support the idea that they are or will. The best they could do is swap out the sh|t greige (grey-beige) plastic on hasbro's pmop for something much nicer looking, and they may not even release sentinel.

And what department of takara do you work in?

There's no need to be so rude about it, it's just a very logical assumption to make that they won't have the headmaster gimmick removed. For all we know the Astrotrain mold needs the headmaster gimmick to keep it's transformation intact, they have no reason to remove the headmaster gimmick from PM OP because it can represent Ginrai, and if they didn't remove the gimmick from Galvatron it's hard to see why they'd remove it from Astrotrain. Or why they'd bother removing the gimmick from any of them, really...

[Hellscream9999]

Takara haven't shown sentinel, pm prime and astrotrain yet. Hoping they don't make them headmasters.

Seriously? They didn't change Galvatron's head when everyone was sooo sure they would. They AREN'T altering they're headmaster gimmick, there is nothing to support the idea that they are or will. The best they could do is swap out the sh|t greige (grey-beige) plastic on hasbro's pmop for something much nicer looking, and they may not even release sentinel.

And what department of takara do you work in?

I don't have to work for them to see a clear pattern. They didn't change Blurr, they didn't change Scourge, they didn't change Blaster, and they didn't change Galvatron - all of whom people swore that TT would alter as to facilitate a 'proper' head, and yet, here we are, so what evidence is there that they will?

[Prowl4]

Takara haven't shown sentinel, pm prime and astrotrain yet. Hoping they don't make them headmasters.

Seriously? They didn't change Galvatron's head when everyone was sooo sure they would. They AREN'T altering they're headmaster gimmick, there is nothing to support the idea that they are or will. The best they could do is swap out the sh|t greige (grey-beige) plastic on hasbro's pmop for something much nicer looking, and they may not even release sentinel.

And what department of takara do you work in?

I don't have to work for them to see a clear pattern. They didn't change Blurr, they didn't change Scourge, they didn't change Blaster, and they didn't change Galvatron - all of whom people swore that TT would alter as to facilitate a 'proper' head, and yet, here we are, so what evidence is there that they will?

Again what department of takara do you work in to be privy to this knowledge?

[steals_your_goats]

Takara haven't shown sentinel, pm prime and astrotrain yet. Hoping they don't make them headmasters.

Seriously? They didn't change Galvatron's head when everyone was sooo sure they would. They AREN'T altering they're headmaster gimmick, there is nothing to support the idea that they are or will. The best they could do is swap out the sh|t greige (grey-beige) plastic on hasbro's pmop for something much nicer looking, and they may not even release sentinel.

And what department of takara do you work in?

I don't have to work for them to see a clear pattern. They didn't change Blurr, they didn't change Scourge, they didn't change Blaster, and they didn't change Galvatron - all of whom people swore that TT would alter as to facilitate a 'proper' head, and yet, here we are, so what evidence is there that they will?

I wouldn't argue with him, he'll probably report you for "abuse" best to just ignore him.