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[Hellscream9999]

Seeing the relative lack of re-engineering put into Fort Max, really makes me miss his ab-cannons; that always seemed like that was one of his most iconic things

I thought his most iconic thing was that he turned into a fortress

Well, yeah, but come on, I said 'one of', it was so cool, he just had cannons attached to his abs, no one else that I can remember from G1 had that, so yeah, that always stuck with me

[william-james88]

I love that the TT version is so G1 toy accurate. All the way down to the red wheel in his chest and the red "doors" on his forearms

But what about the use of clear blue instead of turquoise that the toy has?

Do you think it's possible that the two Hasbro ones we're being shown - I'll just call them normal max and blue-handed max - are just different variants they have coming out? Like, maybe the normal one is mass retail and the blue-handed one is SDCC or vice versa.

I dont think thats possible since everyother promotional picture has blue hands. They lack other details though like the autbot insignia and the red dot at the centre of the clear green plastic on the chest. The recent pictures from Botcon are really are best look at the figure we are getting.





Every pic has a variant of some sort. Only the Botcon pics are accurate (and I am only assuming since its the latest ones).

Seeing the relative lack of re-engineering put into Fort Max, really makes me miss his ab-cannons; that always seemed like that was one of his most iconic things

I thought his most iconic thing was that he turned into a fortress

Well, yeah, but come on, I said 'one of', it was so cool, he just had cannons attached to his abs, no one else that I can remember from G1 had that, so yeah, that always stuck with me

I was just playing around a bit. I was actually going for an imitation of your style fo response when you are just not impressed with something I meant what I said, but how I said it was more of a joke to emphasize my disenchantment.

[fenrir72]

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September is gonna be expensive!

Fortmax at 18750Y (no mention of the sword for now)

Rewind + Nightbeat at 1360Y

Wheelie + Goshooter at 1360Y

Weirdwolf at 3000Y

Amiami prices.not including shipping

[Sabrblade]

I love that the TT version is so G1 toy accurate. All the way down to the red wheel in his chest and the red "doors" on his forearms

But what about the use of clear blue instead of turquoise that the toy has?

That and the blue horns seem to be the two things about this figure that strive for Headmaster cartoon-accuracy over toy-accuracy.

But then again, the Headmasters cartoon model for Fort Max was already very toy-accurate on its own, with far fewer deviations from the toy's looks than those of the Marvel design and the Rebirth cartoon model.

[Gauntlet101010]

Takara Wheelie must be MINE!

Fort Max ... eh. Takara's has his sword and all, but I might just get Hasbro's since I'm pretty meh on Fort Max as a character. Hopefully 3rd party guys will release a few upgrades to make him a little better than he already is.

The Headmasters are all Hasbro purchases if I find them. I was never big into Headmasters. But if they make Squeezeplay (full body, not just the head) the game changes.

But Trypticon. I'm waiting on Trippy. They just ... can't make him into anything but a giant dinosaur robot.

[fenrir72]

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Arrival on September 24 2016 in Japan.

[Emerje]

I love that the TT version is so G1 toy accurate. All the way down to the red wheel in his chest and the red "doors" on his forearms

But what about the use of clear blue instead of turquoise that the toy has?

Yeah, I've got an Encore Fort Max and to be honest the blue doesn't bother me on an otherwise painstakingly accurate deco attempt compared to what Hasbro imagined up. I don't really have anything against the Hasbro version, it's just a preference. Plus I'm sure the figures will have a sticker sheet just like Metroplex did to finish out some of the details on all versions.

BTW, I wonder why Hasbro (or Takara Tomy now) haven't shown us how the legs look opened up? The hinges still seem to be there and there's that spacer on the back of the leg so both sides are even. He also has that hinge on his arm which should have some sort of purpose on the figure aside from making it easier to fit in a box. Seems strange that they're avoiding these features, but I guess they didn't want to work out a fourth mode in, though they ended up basically stealing Scorponok's base mode instead.

Oh, and if anyone missed it, if you want a decent and pretty cheap Fort Max that's about Voyager size the Kabaya gum Fortress Maximus is being re-released in metallic plastic. AmiAmi has the box of six for only 3,840JPY and HLJ for 3,780 which should provide two completed figures (better than the original release being a five pack) and about $20 each. This is by far Kabaya's best series (IMO), though don't expect retail figure quality, it's just a cheap model kit after all.

Emerje

[fenrir72]

For those in the know, a question please?

I read somewhere that Fortmax will come with his Mastersword. That's the big @ss one. Will Cerebros/Fortress come with the mini "key" sword too?

[fenrir72]

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Broadcast too on September 2016

[Logan.]

Heads:

[galvatron00]

All of this dang Fortress Maximus stuff is just making me want a G1 Fortress Maximus. Dang it. Just to have alongside Legends/Titans Return comes out. Why you do Seibertronians?!

The Encore is still readily available from BBTS..

[Prowl4]

Does he work at Takara though?

No. All he's doing is refuting an illogical argument with no evidence whatsoever.

He doesn't work at takara though so he's in no position to say what takara do.

[Darth Zax]

Does he work at Takara though?

No. All he's doing is refuting an illogical argument with no evidence whatsoever.

He doesn't work at takara though so he's in no position to say what takara do.

We get it.

On topic: TT Fort Max all the way, I love the head and G1 paint job. For me, he looks just like his G1 Marvel self, which I like

[william-james88]

Does he work at Takara though?

No. All he's doing is refuting an illogical argument with no evidence whatsoever.

He doesn't work at takara though so he's in no position to say what takara do.

Give it a rest. Everyone can hypothesize what will happen and discussion points should not be shut down like this. If you don't agree with a hypothesis, give your counter and move on.

[Insurgent]

For those in the know, a question please?

I read somewhere that Fortmax will come with his Mastersword. That's the big @ss one. Will Cerebros/Fortress come with the mini "key" sword too?

The sihlouette showed Fortress Maximus with his Master Sword, and beside him was Fortress (Cerebros) also holding a sword scaled to him. The current theory is the tip of the Master Sword comes off and is the 'Key Sword'.


Also, it's wrong that I'm starting to want one. Very wrong. I must be strong dammit!

[william-james88]

All of this dang Fortress Maximus stuff is just making me want a G1 Fortress Maximus. Dang it. Just to have alongside Legends/Titans Return comes out. Why you do Seibertronians?!
The Encore is still readily available from BBTS..

Sorry for those who know the story, bu here is what happened with me Cram. I was always curious of G1 Fort Max. He comes up alot when looking at the most iconic toys in the brand's history. It was also really cool that a toy considered a grail by many was available for less than 300$ (when people were paying close to 1000$ for a complete one just before a reissue was announced). But I wanted to see what an update would look like. The moment I saw this new fort max, I didnt think twice and just ordered the Encore. Here is why:
1. It's its own mold and thus looks far more unique
3. He actually has ramps rather than aircraft landing strips, which totalyl hide his hands.
4. Comes with the 2 swords which even the original Hasbro release didnt have.
5. Way more weaponery, icluding the iconic waist cannons.
6. A more satisfying transformation from city to bot mode.
7. More playability and features like an elevator and 3 propulsion ramps.
8. An actual big beautiful city/fortress mode.
9. More accessories, not only are there more guns but you actually get an extra figure out of partforming two vehicles.

Transformers G1 1987 Gasket Gallery


So for all those reasons and more, I didnt hesitate to buy the G1 since this one doesnt dethrone it in any way:



This new fort max is only superior to the original in terms of articulation in robot mode and thats it. If you play with your toys and want the best base mode ever, this toy doesnt hold a candle to the Encore. So my choice was to buy the encore at this amazing price and then get this new one at costco when its heavily discounted. Hasbro wants to half ass their only titan release of 2016 by making it a retool of an older figure, fine, but if they saved money making it, I dont see why I wouldnt save money when buying it.

For those in the know, a question please?
I read somewhere that Fortmax will come with his Mastersword. That's the big @ss one. Will Cerebros/Fortress come with the mini "key" sword too?

Here is a picture we got of the Takara release with both figures holding swords:


It's several pages back on this thread.

[Prowl4]

Does he work at Takara though?

No. All he's doing is refuting an illogical argument with no evidence whatsoever.

He doesn't work at takara though so he's in no position to say what takara do.

Give it a rest. Everyone can hypothesize what will happen and discussion points should not be shut down like this. If you don't agree with a hypothesis, give your counter and move on.

You say give it a rest then whine about shutting down a post.

[Kurona]

I'm just really confused as to why now that they've revealed Fort Max, they don't show him with the sword. Surely that would be a massive selling point?

[william-james88]

I'm just really confused as to why now that they've revealed Fort Max, they don't show him with the sword. Surely that would be a massive selling point?

I am confused too.

[galvatron00]

All of this dang Fortress Maximus stuff is just making me want a G1 Fortress Maximus. Dang it. Just to have alongside Legends/Titans Return comes out. Why you do Seibertronians?! The Encore is still readily available from BBTS..

Sorry for those who know the story, bu here is what happened with me Cram. I was always curious of G1 Fort Max. He comes up alot when looking at the most iconic toys in the brand's history. It was also really cool that a toy considered a grail by many was available for less than 300$ (when people were paying close to 1000$ for a complete one just before a reissue was announced). But I wanted to see what an update would look like. The moment I saw this new fort max, I didnt think twice and just ordered the Encore. Here is why:
1. It's its own mold and thus looks far more unique
3. He actually has ramps rather than aircraft landing strips, which totalyl hide his hands.
4. Comes with the 2 swords which even the original Hasbro release didnt have.
5. Way more weaponery, icluding the iconic waist cannons.
6. A more satisfying transformation from city to bot mode.
7. More playability and features like an elevator and 3 propulsion ramps.
8. More accessories, not only are there more guns but you actually get an extra figure out of partforming two vehicles.

Transformers G1 1987 Gasket Gallery
9. An actual big beautiful city/fortress mode.

This new fort max is only superior to the original in terms of articulation in robot mode and thats it. If you play with your toys and want the best base mode ever, this toy doesnt hold a candle to the Encore. So my choice was to buy the encore at this amazing price and then get this new one at costco when its heavily discounted. Hasbro wants to half ass their only titan release of 2016 by making it a retool of an older figure, fine, but if they saved money making it, I dont see why I wouldnt save money when buying it.

Thanks for the nudge WJ, let's see what else sells in the collection thread to see if he gets ordered! I still haven't spent over $200 on one bot yet..I'm not sure I want to traverse that slippery slope

Here is a picture we got of the Takara release with both figures holding swords:

It's several pages back on this thread.

I knew I saw that picture somewhere! He's $165 USD on one of those import sites you guys use..before shipping of course. I also was watching the footage from ToyFair and noticed that the FM on display had gray hands instead of blue..?

[Insurgent]

Probably gonna be a later reveal. They don't want to blow all their load in one go.

[william-james88]

I still haven't spent over $200 on one bot yet..I'm not sure I want to traverse that slippery slope

Well he's 4 bots: Fort Max, Cerebros, Spike and Cog

He's $165 USD on one of those import sites you guys use..before shipping of course. I also was watching the footage from ToyFair and noticed that the FM on display had gray hands instead of blue..?

Shipping him to the states will still come out to over 200$ so you'll break your rule either way. And also because the shipping is so expensive, I dont think there is any advantage to any american buying it from a Japanese site instead of a local importer like BBTS. It will come out to pretty much the same cost and with the american sites, you have better recourse if something goes wrong.

Ordering from Japan is more advantageous when it's a smaller item that doesnt cost much to ship, like any of the MPs. Those who bought MP Shockwave from Japan saved quite a bit of money.

Also, for anyone only wanting the Takara version for the swords, wait to see what the SDCC one looks like. Because it will be about the same cost for any US fans who could buy him off HTS after the con and at least in that case you are paying for the (hopefully) better deco and the exclusivity and not simply because it requires importing. That's one thing that sucks when importing a toy. You end up paying more but it's not because the toy is that much better, its just because he isnt sold in your region.

[fenrir72]

All of this dang Fortress Maximus stuff is just making me want a G1 Fortress Maximus. Dang it. Just to have alongside Legends/Titans Return comes out. Why you do Seibertronians?!
The Encore is still readily available from BBTS..

Sorry for those who know the story, bu here is what happened with me Cram. I was always curious of G1 Fort Max. He comes up alot when looking at the most iconic toys in the brand's history. It was also really cool that a toy considered a grail by many was available for less than 300$ (when people were paying close to 1000$ for a complete one just before a reissue was announced). But I wanted to see what an update would look like. The moment I saw this new fort max, I didnt think twice and just ordered the Encore. Here is why:
1. It's its own mold and thus looks far more unique
3. He actually has ramps rather than aircraft landing strips, which totalyl hide his hands.
4. Comes with the 2 swords which even the original Hasbro release didnt have.
5. Way more weaponery, icluding the iconic waist cannons.
6. A more satisfying transformation from city to bot mode.
7. More playability and features like an elevator and 3 propulsion ramps.
8. An actual big beautiful city/fortress mode.
9. More accessories, not only are there more guns but you actually get an extra figure out of partforming two vehicles.

Transformers G1 1987 Gasket Gallery


So for all those reasons and more, I didnt hesitate to buy the G1 since this one doesnt dethrone it in any way:



This new fort max is only superior to the original in terms of articulation in robot mode and thats it. If you play with your toys and want the best base mode ever, this toy doesnt hold a candle to the Encore. So my choice was to buy the encore at this amazing price and then get this new one at costco when its heavily discounted. Hasbro wants to half ass their only titan release of 2016 by making it a retool of an older figure, fine, but if they saved money making it, I dont see why I wouldnt save money when buying it.

For those in the know, a question please?
I read somewhere that Fortmax will come with his Mastersword. That's the big @ss one. Will Cerebros/Fortress come with the mini "key" sword too?

Here is a picture we got of the Takara release with both figures holding swords:


It's several pages back on this thread.

That's the image I recall. Anyway, the image I found in Amazon Japan without the watermark didn't have a sword on him and no "Fortress" mini me mode too. I hope we get to see what/how the new sword looks like.

Also, as this is related, has Fortmax been released domestically? I use the domestic release to reference the months count down for the JP one.

[william-james88]

Also, as this is related, has Fortmax been released domestically? I use the domestic release to reference the months count down for the JP one.

No, he hasnt. The first release of that to will probably be the SDCC version.

[galvatron00]

I still haven't spent over $200 on one bot yet..I'm not sure I want to traverse that slippery slope

Well he's 4 bots: Fort Max, Cerebros, Spike and Cog

Touche salesman

He's $165 USD on one of those import sites you guys use..before shipping of course. I also was watching the footage from ToyFair and noticed that the FM on display had gray hands instead of blue..?

Shipping him to the states will still come out to over 200$ so you'll break your rule either way. And also because the shipping is so expensive, I dont think there is any advantage to any american buying it from a Japanese site instead of a local importer like BBTS. It will come out to pretty much the same cost and with the american sites, you have better recourse if something goes wrong.

Ordering from Japan is more advantageous when it's a smaller item that doesnt cost much to ship, like any of the MPs. Those who bought MP Shockwave from Japan saved quite a bit of money.

Also, for anyone only wanting the Takara version for the swords, wait to see what the SDCC one looks like. Because it will be about the same cost for any US fans who could buy him off HTS after the con and at least in that case you are paying for the (hopefully) better deco and the exclusivity and not simply because it requires importing. That's one thing that sucks when importing a toy. You end up paying more but it's not because the toy is that much better, its just because he isnt sold in your region.

You the man WJ!! I feel like I've had the option to buy each of the SDCC items, but didn't have the cash at the time. This year I'll divert some funds in the weeks leading up to SDCC.