The Energon Pub

[D-Maximal_Primal]

We'd better get to the 3000 preorders for the pretender suit. That is the main reason I want Grand Max.

If we don't get there and they cancel the pretender shell, I'll cancel my preorder

Now THAT's commitment!

Dude, Pretenders are one of those things that not many people like and not many get made nowadays that I love (thanks for that BURN), and I really want that shell. the figure itself would be cool, especially with the sword and the fact he can stand with my Hasbro Fort Max and he would be slightly different due to the middle head sculpt, but for me it's all about that pretender shell.

[megatronus]

We'd better get to the 3000 preorders for the pretender suit. That is the main reason I want Grand Max.

If we don't get there and they cancel the pretender shell, I'll cancel my preorder

Now THAT's commitment!

Dude, Pretenders are one of those things that not many people like and not many get made nowadays that I love (thanks for that BURN), and I really want that shell. the figure itself would be cool, especially with the sword and the fact he can stand with my Hasbro Fort Max and he would be slightly different due to the middle head sculpt, but for me it's all about that pretender shell.

That's one expensive shell.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

We'd better get to the 3000 preorders for the pretender suit. That is the main reason I want Grand Max.

If we don't get there and they cancel the pretender shell, I'll cancel my preorder

Now THAT's commitment!

Dude, Pretenders are one of those things that not many people like and not many get made nowadays that I love (thanks for that BURN), and I really want that shell. the figure itself would be cool, especially with the sword and the fact he can stand with my Hasbro Fort Max and he would be slightly different due to the middle head sculpt, but for me it's all about that pretender shell.

That's one expensive shell.

More like icing that makes the cake worth eating. I would buy that figure if it has this one thing that completes it

[gothsaurus]

Yeah, I agree that for the price tag this SHOULD have something extra to make it more attractive.

[megatronus]

I'm happy with the BBTS price. Not so much more than the Takara Fort Max.

Pretender shell is a great bonus, if it happens.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I'm happy with the BBTS price. Not so much more than the Takara Fort Max.

Pretender shell is a great bonus, if it happens.

I mean, I'm not contending the price, it is reasonable. I'm only willing to pay that price should the pretender shell happen.

Speaking of which, I wonder if they would drop the price should the shell not happen

[megatronus]

I'm happy with the BBTS price. Not so much more than the Takara Fort Max.

Pretender shell is a great bonus, if it happens.

I mean, I'm not contending the price, it is reasonable. I'm only willing to pay that price should the pretender shell happen.

Speaking of which, I wonder if they would drop the price should the shell not happen

I don't think they'll drop the price. The assumption is that by the time they reach 3000 units, there's enough cushion in their P&L to provide that bonus shell. If preorders settle at let's say 2500, they're probably still just surpassing the margin needed to make production viable from a business perspective.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I'm happy with the BBTS price. Not so much more than the Takara Fort Max.

Pretender shell is a great bonus, if it happens.

I mean, I'm not contending the price, it is reasonable. I'm only willing to pay that price should the pretender shell happen.

Speaking of which, I wonder if they would drop the price should the shell not happen

I don't think they'll drop the price. The assumption is that by the time they reach 3000 units, there's enough cushion in their P&L to provide that bonus shell. If preorders settle at let's say 2500, they're probably still just surpassing the margin needed to make production viable from a business perspective.

The cost-effectiveness is probably also why TakaraTomy opted for the existing Waverider tooling and not sculpt a single new part for essentially a bonus item. In fact, from what I've seen with Overlord and Sixshot, the more parts able to be changed out, the more likely that will happen.

[gothsaurus]

I get that most of us with our desk jobs can 'afford' this import... but I still lament that it's not more affordable for, you know, the KIDS who might want to buy it. I do know a number of friends who can't pull together the funds for this (or Greatshot either). I have to pour one out for my homies.

[Insurgent]

Should i open my legends hot rod or sell? Hhhmmmm. I have the original classics that i still love and don't have character duplicates in my classics collection. But i love his magenta an shao shao looks much nicer than recoil. Just musings on the tram home while fighting a migraine after yet another crappy day at the office.

[chuckdawg1999]

Didn't they announce that they made it to the 3000 pre-orders needed for the shell?

[Sabrblade]

Didn't they announce that they made it to the 3000 pre-orders needed for the shell?

No. That was an error on this site's part. The real announcement was the 2000 mark being reached, while the 3000 mark would be a challenge.

[Qwan]

Didn't they announce that they made it to the 3000 pre-orders needed for the shell?

IIRC the announcement was that they'd made it to 2000 preorders so the main man 'bot would be made, and they still had some to go before 3000 and the shell? I'unno for certain, I have trouble understanding things I can read , but I think that was our best understanding last I heard.

[Ah, ninja'd again. See Sabrblade above for a considerably more useful answer, naturally.]

[Agamemnon]

Just a heads up for anyone who may have missed out on the earlier Legends Headmasters, it appears that BBTS has new preorders up for many of them. I just checked for kicks to see if I could get Scourge, and he is relisted. The only ones sold out at this time are Super Ginrai, GodBomber, and Octane. I just thought I'd mention it in case anyone was looking for these earlier Legends figs, like maybe that fantastic Blurr...

[chuckdawg1999]

Interesting. Scourge was just reissued to coincide with the Sharkticon release.

[william-james88]

If anyone wants to see the latest Legends comics, they are in their own thread takara-legends-manga-thread-p1919398.php#p1919397

Sakamoto is at it again.

[Emerje]

Just a heads up for anyone who may have missed out on the earlier Legends Headmasters, it appears that BBTS has new preorders up for many of them. I just checked for kicks to see if I could get Scourge, and he is relisted. The only ones sold out at this time are Super Ginrai, GodBomber, and Octane. I just thought I'd mention it in case anyone was looking for these earlier Legends figs, like maybe that fantastic Blurr...

Why would anyone buy Super Ginrai at that price when you can get the God Ginrai set for $15 more? Even if you already have God Bomber why not just pay the little extra and sell the first one and get two bonus Headmasters for the trouble?

Emerje

[Relic0037]

It looks like it's official that the Takara Legends Grand Maximus figure won't come with the pretender shell. Takara Tomy Mail's preorder page has stopped accepting orders & it appears the threshold of 3000 was not met. The good news is the goal of 2000+ was met, so while the added bonus won't be included, at least the figure itself will go into production. Here is a link to Takara's web page:

http://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810963691/

[chuckdawg1999]

What happens if people cancel?

[Emerje]

What happens if people cancel?

TTMall doesn't allow cancellations so it isn't an issue on that end. Cancellations at places like BBTS and TFSource wouldn't have an effect.

It's a shame the suit isn't being included, but it isn't a deal breaker for me. It still strikes me as odd that they would go to all the trouble of molding a finished figure complete with color-correct plastic if there was a chance they wouldn't be making it.

Emerje

[megatronus]

What happens if people cancel?

TTMall doesn't allow cancellations so it isn't an issue on that end. Cancellations at places like BBTS and TFSource wouldn't have an effect.

It's a shame the suit isn't being included, but it isn't a deal breaker for me. It still strikes me as odd that they would go to all the trouble of molding a finished figure complete with color-correct plastic if there was a chance they wouldn't be making it.

Emerje

I'm pretty sure it was an existing tooling for a figure seeing mass release. Changing the color is NBD.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

What happens if people cancel?

TTMall doesn't allow cancellations so it isn't an issue on that end. Cancellations at places like BBTS and TFSource wouldn't have an effect.

It's a shame the suit isn't being included, but it isn't a deal breaker for me. It still strikes me as odd that they would go to all the trouble of molding a finished figure complete with color-correct plastic if there was a chance they wouldn't be making it.

Emerje

I'm pretty sure it was an existing tooling for a figure seeing mass release. Changing the color is NBD.

Waverider retool of PotP Cloudburst. Got a news item dedicated to that:

Possible first look at Transformers Power of the Primes Waverider Decoy Suit mold

[Emerje]

What happens if people cancel?

TTMall doesn't allow cancellations so it isn't an issue on that end. Cancellations at places like BBTS and TFSource wouldn't have an effect.

It's a shame the suit isn't being included, but it isn't a deal breaker for me. It still strikes me as odd that they would go to all the trouble of molding a finished figure complete with color-correct plastic if there was a chance they wouldn't be making it.

Emerje

I'm pretty sure it was an existing tooling for a figure seeing mass release. Changing the color is NBD.

Sure, but the molds are currently being used to produce the Cloudburst shell, seems strange to hold up a mold, even for a little while, just so Takara Tomy can mess around with it.

(edit) Just to be clear, by "molding a finished figure" I mean making a figure out of the mold, not making a new mold for the figure.

Emerje

[Jelze Bunnycat]

What happens if people cancel?

TTMall doesn't allow cancellations so it isn't an issue on that end. Cancellations at places like BBTS and TFSource wouldn't have an effect.

It's a shame the suit isn't being included, but it isn't a deal breaker for me. It still strikes me as odd that they would go to all the trouble of molding a finished figure complete with color-correct plastic if there was a chance they wouldn't be making it.

Emerje

I'm pretty sure it was an existing tooling for a figure seeing mass release. Changing the color is NBD.

Sure, but the molds are currently being used to produce the Cloudburst shell, seems strange to hold up a mold, even for a little while, just so Takara Tomy can mess around with it.

(edit) Just to be clear, by "molding a finished figure" I mean making a figure out of the mold, not making a new mold for the figure.

Emerje

I'm pretty sure production has already ended for the first wave, so scheduling one right now is no biggie. They're due in March, so there is a little time to make things work.

[Insurgent]

Is it just me or does kickback have a remoulded face?