The Energon Pub

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Well, is there any concern that the chrome will disintegrate like gold plastic? With the red plastic underneath, that should alleviate any of those concerns, right?

I do like how looking at Takara Jetfire immediately made me nostalgic for the G1 Jetfire toy.

Chrome flaking and Gold Plastic Syndrome are two entirely different things.

Right. That's what I was asking. Were people afraid that the chrome was the entire mold, or just the flaking. Sorry if I wasn't clear in that.

Just the flaking. Don't get me wrong, structure-wise the plastic is fine, but the mere sight of chrome cracking and flaking... Besides, chrome has to be in a location that makes sense, not in random places like most of the Henkei line.

[-Kanrabat-]

Even though I have Delicate Warrior, I'll buy the Takara Arcee. For this will be the REAL Arcee. That is, until a MP come out.

[fenrir72]

Comic. Accurate. Windblade!!!!

Show. Accurate. Arcee!!!!

And Chromia.

Fist pump!

[RotorstormNZ]

The expression on Rattrap's face looking at Primal, and riding Sky-Byte/Gelshark, just cracks me up!

For those (like me) yet to get a new-mold Rattrap, what are the differences shaping up to be between Generations and Legends?

[shajaki]

For those (like me) yet to get a new-mold Rattrap, what are the differences shaping up to be between Generations and Legends?

not a whole lot.

[Sabrblade]

For those (like me) yet to get a new-mold Rattrap, what are the differences shaping up to be between Generations and Legends?

not a whole lot.

Takara's almost looks like it has less paint than Hasbro's.

[Autobot032]

Earlier this week, we reported on some in hand images of the upcoming Takara Tomy Transformers Legends (Generations) Rattrap, along with several other figures, including a teaser of their Arcee. You can read that full article and see those pictures, here.

Hisashi Yuki isn't quite done extolling the virtues of Rattrap, it seems, as he's posted more pictures of the upcoming figure and his Legends buddies. We've mirrored those images below:









Keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates, plus the best galleries around!

[TimothyR]

hey look, it's leader jetfire with the few extra paint apps that hasbro couldn't have been bothered to put on their version.. why i support and buy any of their figures is beyond me. it's stuff like this that makes me wish i lived in Japan.

[kirbenvost]

I really love that Takara went out of their way to make Arcee G1-accurate. Suprisingly though, I like Hasbro's more. I think the black details just add a little needed contrast or something that the G1 colors lack. Same goes for Chromia, Hasbro has those red details and the big canopy, whereas Takara painted the canopy to appear smaller. So I'm definitely keeping my Hasbro preorders for those two.

Windblade looks considerably different and may actually have a way better face, but I've already paid for the Hasbro version, so... yeah. Too late, probably.

I also just noticed Brainstorm's headmaster can turn his head! WHOA. Is that a first for officially-released -Master figures?

[Siger]

Does anyone think Takara Jetfire is worth the extra $20?

[-Kanrabat-]

Does anyone think Takara Jetfire is worth the extra $20?

It only depend on you. See the pictures, compare, and decide.

[fenrir72]

Does anyone think Takara Jetfire is worth the extra $20?

I always hear this. extra apps not worth the extra price. If you add extra toppings to your hoagie, don't you expect to pay extra? Same with the Tomy Japan releases. That and extra packaging and of course, it is more expensive in Japan.

[megatronus]

hey look, it's leader jetfire with the few extra paint apps that hasbro couldn't have been bothered to put on their version.. why i support and buy any of their figures is beyond me. it's stuff like this that makes me wish i lived in Japan.

Go ahead. Move to Japan and enjoy your liquidity trap.

[Cyberpath]

Does anyone think Takara Jetfire is worth the extra $20?

I think it's better without the extra paint that Takara offers, because it looks more cartoon-accurate, if you're into that.

The only difference as far as I can tell, aside from the weapons and white outline around the symbol, is that the Takara version has red cuffs on its boots; a longer red stripe on the chest and some black in the knees.

Personally, I would have omitted the red cuffs on his sleeves, too.

[-Kanrabat-]

I really love how the weapons on the Takara one are colored. However, I'm hesitant to customise them. I'd like to keep the chrome and paint the cannon parts black. Can I just paint over the chrome, or should I remove it first? If I must remove the chrome before painting, how to manage to remove it without having to soak the entire part in the soap? I don't want to remove ALL the chrome. I just want to remove the chrome on the tiny gun part and repainting it black.

[shajaki]

Does anyone think Takara Jetfire is worth the extra $20?

I always hear this. extra apps not worth the extra price. If you add extra toppings to your hoagie, don't you expect to pay extra? Same with the Tomy Japan releases. That and extra packaging and of course, it is more expensive in Japan.

unfair comparison. it all depends on what kind of collector you are. me, ill own whichever one superior. even small details go a long way to me, and i dont mind paying the extra costs.

end of the day, is it worth it to you?

[-Kanrabat-]

end of the day, is it worth it to you?

Exactly.
A collector must collect what HE like. Not what other people like.

[Siger]

end of the day, is it worth it to you?

Exactly.
A collector must collect what HE like. Not what other people like.

Thanks to all that replied, and the side by side picture comparison really helped Cyberpath. I understand your point Kanrabat but I obviously asked the question because I want to hear people's opinions, which in turn will help me make a more informed purchase. Once again, thanks for the inputs.

[megatronus]

end of the day, is it worth it to you?

[fenrir72]

Does anyone think Takara Jetfire is worth the extra $20?

I think it's better without the extra paint that Takara offers, because it looks more cartoon-accurate, if you're into that.

The only difference as far as I can tell, aside from the weapons and white outline around the symbol, is that the Takara version has red cuffs on its boots; a longer red stripe on the chest and some black in the knees.

Personally, I would have omitted the red cuffs on his sleeves, too.

If you want to be OCD, the paint apps on the Hasbro version (especially on his chest) is more cartoon accurate. Tomy's has those to extended extra red stripes making him more packaging accurate (take a look at the IDW art work in the 30th Jetfire box).

Btw, as I previously mentioned on the complaints about the extra cost, read the Parable of the Merchant and the Pearl. Religious connotations aside, it is apt for us collectors whether the extra price is worth it.

Also, Jetfire is already pre ordered. I'll keep the Hasbro in Jet mode and Tomy in bot mode.

Arcee and the other fembots are next (will be skipping the Hasbro Arcee and Chromia for theses babies!).

[mooncake623]

Thanks to TakaraTomyMall.jp we get Official Stock Images of Takara's Legends Arcee, Chromia and Windblade. All three are repaints of their Hasbro Generations version with more a cartoon accurate deco for Arcee and Chromia, and more comic accurate deco for Windblade. We've mirrored them below for your viewing pleasures and remember keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates, plus the best galleries around!

[Sabrblade]

Arcee's and Windblade's new decos make each of them a MUST HAVE!

Chromia I'm not so sure about since her show-accurate deco makes her comic-accurate body less accurate to the source material.

[Gauntlet101010]

The colours make a WORLD of difference on Arcee. Chromia is a definite maybe. I want her more for toon representation than anything else.

Is it just the angle or do they all have smiles painted on them?

[mooncake623]

The colours make a WORLD of difference on Arcee. Chromia is a definite maybe. I want her more for toon representation than anything else.

Is it just the angle or do they all have smiles painted on them?

lol Huh you're right looks like they are all smiling... I wonder if this will be on the toys themselves. I'm sure these images were all photoshopped.

[Rated X]

Arcee and Chromia are a must have. I dont read comics so I dont need a comic accurate windblade. At a quick glance the only differences I see are the face and the white nosecone.