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[Sabrblade]

4 bots?

More like 4 parts, Dai Atlas may or may not split in two given the mold's pedigree.

I ont really undestand why it wouldnt split. Dont we see the jet on top of the tank in these pics? So then its already split no?

Unless they retooled the two components to be permanently joined into one big treaded drill jet the like original toy (which I sincerely doubt will be the case).

[Hellscream9999]

This is amazing! I just don't even know where it came from... idle boredom I bet, some designer stacking TR figures on top one another to kill some time

[fenrir72]

https://www.soundwavesoblivion.com/thetoyarchive.html

Courtesy of Soundwave Oblivion's collection.

Yup!

I can definitely see the retool from the original

[chuckdawg1999]

Looks like two deluxes and a leader isn't that far off from the original.

[fenrir72]

Topspin will get an extra flap and a gun barrel or a folding turret

Misfire, a little voodoo retooling on the nosecone cockpit.

Black Shadow is kind of tricky, will the tank turret be retained like original? Or just a flat platform with tank treads? Will the jet mode + tank part combo of the original have a more secure clamp/connection? Even with the JP Overlord, the clamp still felt loose. As for the nosecone drill, retractable?

This will look awesome once colored .

[Jelze Bunnycat]

4 bots?

More like 4 parts, Dai Atlas may or may not split in two given the mold's pedigree.

I ont really undestand why it wouldnt split. Dont we see the jet on top of the tank in these pics? So then its already split no?

Unless they retooled the two components to be permanently joined into one big treaded drill jet the like original toy (which I sincerely doubt will be the case).

The thing is, it's no more a tank than a big treaded vehicle like Star Convoy's Tread Unit as there's no discernible turret. And retooling it to stay one unit isn't that hard, just need to be creative with the new pelvis which is now in the back.

O well, keeping both possibilities open.

[fenrir72]

Roadfire's gun barrel and cockpit seems to be fused unlike the original (or maybe detachable?). Thus the cockpit front part I mentioned that would be part of Topspin's front can be detached by those clamps and connects onto Sonic bomber's topside now.

[-Kanrabat-]

Seeing the original above show another GREAT spaceship combinaison. The new version is embarassing being a "steel burger".

[ScottyP]

Looks like two deluxes and a leader isn't that far off from the original.

Sonic Bomber is the size of a modern Voyager. This new one will be a shrimp next to the original.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Roadfire's gun barrel and cockpit seems to be fused unlike the original (or maybe detachable?). Thus the cockpit front part I mentioned that would be part of Topspin's front can be detached by those clamps and connects onto Sonic bomber's topside now.

Dai Atlas' top.

And I don't think that will be the connection. Those are not clamps, they're the hinges for the fists, with sprue marks right below.

[chuckdawg1999]

Looks like two deluxes and a leader isn't that far off from the original.

Sonic Bomber is the size of a modern Voyager. This new one will be a shrimp next to the original.

Now, now size doesn't matter.

[fenrir72]

Original Overlord was also bigger than the original. So a little downsizing is in effect (Dai Atlas is or was Ultra Class?)

[-Kanrabat-]

Original Overlord was also bigger than the original. So a little downsizing is in effect (Dai Atlas is or was Ultra Class?)

Dai Atlas from Univwerse was a repaint of G1 Skyquake. So technically, an Ultra Class.

[Sabrblade]

Original Overlord was also bigger than the original. So a little downsizing is in effect (Dai Atlas is or was Ultra Class?)

G1 Dai Atlas was a big dude, yes, about the size of the old Super class that eventually evolved in the Leader class, which was later downsized during AOE to be shorter than the old Super class height and more like the height of the Ultra class.

So this basically is the same situation as what happened to Overlord between his G1 toy and his Titans Return/Legends toy, albeit with Overlord's G1 toy having been even larger than Dai Atlas's, more like a Supreme class figure of the Unicron Trilogy.

[ScottyP]

Maybe I should just take some quick comparison shots, but for those curious about the Powered Masters' size, here's the best way I can describe it:

Using modern scale, Sonic Bomber would be a Voyager, Road Fire might be sold as a Voyager that almost didn't fit in the box, and Dai Atlas would be a Leader that they'd have to raise the price for.

Using 2005-2010 scale, Sonic Bomber would be a large Deluxe, Road Fire would be a Cybertron/RotF sized Voyager, and Dai Atlas would be Leader.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Autobase Aichi has a low-res color pic of Big Powered.

Twitter Link

And I'm practically drooling.

[ZeroWolf]

Not much to go on but I think it looks good

[Va'al]

Fellow Seibertronian JelZe Goldrabbit has pointed us towards another post with stock images on the Autobase Aichi blog, this time covering what is still trying to be part of the tail-end of the Takara Tomy Transformers Legends line, in the LG-EX Big Powered set! The figure, as seen previously, is a composite and combined form of Overlord/Sky Shadow, Twintwist and Misfire, all from Titans Return / Legends standing in Cybertron Powered Masters Dai Atlas, Sonic Bomber, and Roadfire from Transformers Zone.

The new image is small, and grainy, since it comes from the randomized display of figures on Takaratomy Mall but it is in colour, and you can check it out below! That small icon also shows us the price, which will be 16,200 Yen. With this being an LG-EX release, we can roughly estimate now that the price at domestic importers (like BBTS, TF Source ect) would be around the $160-$170 USD range. Let us know what you think in the discussion boards too.

[Sabrblade]

Don't forget that Sonic Bomber is also an extensive retool of TR Misfire.

[Skritz]

Sure, this combined mode may look goofy but it is accurate (to a point) to the original. That said, the level of retooling which went into these has me truly excited as they are all made from three excellent TR molds.

[TF-fan kev777]

So, any guesses on how much these guys are going to cost? If I can somehow get it for about $150 or less, I'm in. Unfortunately being a LG-EX, I suspect it may be more.

[Randomhero]

So, any guesses on how much these guys are going to cost? If I can somehow get it for about $150 or less, I'm in. Unfortunately being a LG-EX, I suspect it may be more.

The mall has them listed for 16200 Yen or $143.33

[Nemesis Destron]

So, any guesses on how much these guys are going to cost? If I can somehow get it for about $150 or less, I'm in. Unfortunately being a LG-EX, I suspect it may be more.

The mall has them listed for 16200 Yen or $143.33

I would pay that no sweat! If it turned to be that same retail price as the recently released Ecore God Fire Convoy.... ....yes I would still pay it!

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I'd much rather wait for a Hasbro release, as unlikely as it may seem. Some renaming may be in order tho: King Atlas, Autobot Roadfire... and anything that doesn't have "Sonic" (gotta go fast!) and "Bomber" (for the sensitive types).

[o.supreme]

this may truly be a case of a toy priced higher than the sum of it's parts.

The average "leader" figure for Titans returns (in Legends) was about $70 (considering 3p retail sites after shipping etc...), the standard "deluxe" were about $35, but always included a Titan Master.

There was only one Leader EX (Greatshot) and goes for about $95. If we guesstimate a "Deluxe EX" would between $40-$50, that comes out to between $170-$190 (for stores like BBTS TF Source etc...) I'm personally hoping it's more conservative, around $160. But Maybe they'll split the difference at $175.

I'm only stating this because there is no direct way (I'm aware of) for fans outside japan to order from mall is there? And even if there were. $143, after shipping, import taxes etc... would probably be close to $170 anyway.

I would love Hasbro to release this, but considering they never did any of the other EX releases I'm doubtful, unless "Brand Unification" really does mean things can o both ways. Someone should have asked Warden at NYCC. Maybe at ToyFare?