The Energon Pub

[william-james88]

I've honestly never liked any deco TT has offered (that isn't exclusive), up until Runabout

What about the robots in disguise line? Or Superion?

Ya know what? You're right, I've actually liked every deco they released in the rid'15 line; I was originally talking about the generations/legends lines, because it irritated me that they weren't that great to me; and I felt the same way about the hasbro rid'15 line, so the tav line kinda slipped on by

Well it makes sense, we are in the LEgends thread after all

And I do agree that the difference between Legends and Generations is more "different" than it is "superior". Be it Blitzwing, Megatron, Brainstorm, Jetfire, Whirl, Rattrap and especially Roadbuster, the differences dont really do anything making me want to import (not that it would cost so much more). Though I will say that their Tankor and Rhinox was better and Arcee was more to my taste (especially given the design they went with). Their Gelshark vs our Skybyte is probably the best one of all to show that they can still be superior when they want to be. I own Legends Whirl and... I am totally indifferent to owning it over the Hasbro one. Both seem so inferior to the use of that mold for Shockwave (as you said, their exclusives are pretty great). That Magnus also seems to have much nicer paint apps, even though I am not fond of the choice of red hips (man, that picture with Springer and Arcee totally played a number on me, it's like I was blind and now I see).

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Eh, it can go half and half. Takara does normally have much better paint apps but the hasbro still looks really good. Then there are times that a bad deco comes out and one looks vastly superior (cough Hasbro Defensor rocks, Takara looks ugly cough). So it really comes down to personal preference. I for one am good with the hasbro almost the entire time (That upgrade bee though man, look awesome, as does Grimmy)

[chuckdawg1999]

Well I pre-ordered Takara Magnus today, I don't have the Hasbro one, and like the red on the legs. Alpha Trion helps too.

[Hellscream9999]

I've honestly never liked any deco TT has offered (that isn't exclusive), up until Runabout

What about the robots in disguise line? Or Superion?

Ya know what? You're right, I've actually liked every deco they released in the rid'15 line; I was originally talking about the generations/legends lines, because it irritated me that they weren't that great to me; and I felt the same way about the hasbro rid'15 line, so the tav line kinda slipped on by

Well it makes sense, we are in the LEgends thread after all

And I do agree that the difference between Legends and Generations is more "different" than it is "superior". Be it Blitzwing, Megatron, Brainstorm, Jetfire, Whirl, Rattrap and especially Roadbuster, the differences dont really do anything making me want to import (not that it would cost so much more). Though I will say that their Tankor and Rhinox was better and Arcee was more to my taste (especially given the design they went with). Their Gelshark vs our Skybyte is probably the best one of all to show that they can still be superior when they want to be. I own Legends Whirl and... I am totally indifferent to owning it over the Hasbro one. Both seem so inferior to the use of that mold for Shockwave (as you said, their exclusives are pretty great). That Magnus also seems to have much nicer paint apps, even though I am not fond of the choice of red hips (man, that picture with Springer and Arcee totally played a number on me, it's like I was blind and now I see).

No way, there is no way 'metallic brown rhinox' is better than 'normal (realistic?) color rhinox'

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I've honestly never liked any deco TT has offered (that isn't exclusive), up until Runabout

What about the robots in disguise line? Or Superion?

Ya know what? You're right, I've actually liked every deco they released in the rid'15 line; I was originally talking about the generations/legends lines, because it irritated me that they weren't that great to me; and I felt the same way about the hasbro rid'15 line, so the tav line kinda slipped on by

Well it makes sense, we are in the LEgends thread after all

And I do agree that the difference between Legends and Generations is more "different" than it is "superior". Be it Blitzwing, Megatron, Brainstorm, Jetfire, Whirl, Rattrap and especially Roadbuster, the differences dont really do anything making me want to import (not that it would cost so much more). Though I will say that their Tankor and Rhinox was better and Arcee was more to my taste (especially given the design they went with). Their Gelshark vs our Skybyte is probably the best one of all to show that they can still be superior when they want to be. I own Legends Whirl and... I am totally indifferent to owning it over the Hasbro one. Both seem so inferior to the use of that mold for Shockwave (as you said, their exclusives are pretty great). That Magnus also seems to have much nicer paint apps, even though I am not fond of the choice of red hips (man, that picture with Springer and Arcee totally played a number on me, it's like I was blind and now I see).

No way, there is no way 'metallic brown rhinox' is better than 'normal (realistic?) color rhinox'

IMO< the hasbro Rhinox was superior. The takara looked a bit funky to me.

[alexison]

I've honestly never liked any deco TT has offered (that isn't exclusive), up until Runabout

What about the robots in disguise line? Or Superion?

Ya know what? You're right, I've actually liked every deco they released in the rid'15 line; I was originally talking about the generations/legends lines, because it irritated me that they weren't that great to me; and I felt the same way about the hasbro rid'15 line, so the tav line kinda slipped on by

Well it makes sense, we are in the LEgends thread after all

And I do agree that the difference between Legends and Generations is more "different" than it is "superior". Be it Blitzwing, Megatron, Brainstorm, Jetfire, Whirl, Rattrap and especially Roadbuster, the differences dont really do anything making me want to import (not that it would cost so much more). Though I will say that their Tankor and Rhinox was better and Arcee was more to my taste (especially given the design they went with). Their Gelshark vs our Skybyte is probably the best one of all to show that they can still be superior when they want to be. I own Legends Whirl and... I am totally indifferent to owning it over the Hasbro one. Both seem so inferior to the use of that mold for Shockwave (as you said, their exclusives are pretty great). That Magnus also seems to have much nicer paint apps, even though I am not fond of the choice of red hips (man, that picture with Springer and Arcee totally played a number on me, it's like I was blind and now I see).

No way, there is no way 'metallic brown rhinox' is better than 'normal (realistic?) color rhinox'

It was better assembled & more show accurate.

[Hellscream9999]

I've honestly never liked any deco TT has offered (that isn't exclusive), up until Runabout

What about the robots in disguise line? Or Superion?

Ya know what? You're right, I've actually liked every deco they released in the rid'15 line; I was originally talking about the generations/legends lines, because it irritated me that they weren't that great to me; and I felt the same way about the hasbro rid'15 line, so the tav line kinda slipped on by

Well it makes sense, we are in the LEgends thread after all

And I do agree that the difference between Legends and Generations is more "different" than it is "superior". Be it Blitzwing, Megatron, Brainstorm, Jetfire, Whirl, Rattrap and especially Roadbuster, the differences dont really do anything making me want to import (not that it would cost so much more). Though I will say that their Tankor and Rhinox was better and Arcee was more to my taste (especially given the design they went with). Their Gelshark vs our Skybyte is probably the best one of all to show that they can still be superior when they want to be. I own Legends Whirl and... I am totally indifferent to owning it over the Hasbro one. Both seem so inferior to the use of that mold for Shockwave (as you said, their exclusives are pretty great). That Magnus also seems to have much nicer paint apps, even though I am not fond of the choice of red hips (man, that picture with Springer and Arcee totally played a number on me, it's like I was blind and now I see).

No way, there is no way 'metallic brown rhinox' is better than 'normal (realistic?) color rhinox'

It was better assembled & more show accurate.

Except not, because he wasn't shiny brown ion beast or robot mode.

[Sabrblade]

Except not, because he wasn't shiny brown ion beast or robot mode.

Hasbro's Rhinox is shiny too, so both toys are wrong in that regard.

Color shade-wise, however, Takara's has the better brown vs. Hasbro's shade of grayish tan that Rhinox never had in the show.

[alexison]

Except not, because he wasn't shiny brown ion beast or robot mode.

Hasbro's Rhinox is shiny too, so both toys are wrong in that regard.

Color shade-wise, however, Takara's has the better brown vs. Hasbro's shade of grayish tan that Rhinox never had in the show.

That is what I was getting at. The knee tolerances were much better as well.

[Hellscream9999]

Except not, because he wasn't shiny brown ion beast or robot mode.

Hasbro's Rhinox is shiny too, so both toys are wrong in that regard.

Color shade-wise, however, Takara's has the better brown vs. Hasbro's shade of grayish tan that Rhinox never had in the show.

How do you mean the hasbro one is shiny? I never noticed it, it could be a natural quality of the plastic color.

[Sabrblade]

Except not, because he wasn't shiny brown ion beast or robot mode.

Hasbro's Rhinox is shiny too, so both toys are wrong in that regard.

Color shade-wise, however, Takara's has the better brown vs. Hasbro's shade of grayish tan that Rhinox never had in the show.

How do you mean the hasbro one is shiny? I never noticed it, it could be a natural quality of the plastic color.

I have both Rhinoxes and Hasbro's is glossy and reflective of light just like Takara's.

[Hellscream9999]

Except not, because he wasn't shiny brown ion beast or robot mode.

Hasbro's Rhinox is shiny too, so both toys are wrong in that regard.

Color shade-wise, however, Takara's has the better brown vs. Hasbro's shade of grayish tan that Rhinox never had in the show.

How do you mean the hasbro one is shiny? I never noticed it, it could be a natural quality of the plastic color.

I have both Rhinoxes and Hasbro's is glossy and reflective of light just like Takara's.

Huh, well I guess that it was the metallic brown of the legends rhinox that put me off, b/c it was metallic on purpose.

[Sabrblade]

Except not, because he wasn't shiny brown ion beast or robot mode.

Hasbro's Rhinox is shiny too, so both toys are wrong in that regard.

Color shade-wise, however, Takara's has the better brown vs. Hasbro's shade of grayish tan that Rhinox never had in the show.

How do you mean the hasbro one is shiny? I never noticed it, it could be a natural quality of the plastic color.

I have both Rhinoxes and Hasbro's is glossy and reflective of light just like Takara's.

Huh, well I guess that it was the metallic brown of the legends rhinox that put me off, b/c it was metallic on purpose.

Metallic or not, brown is still what Cartoon Rhinox was, not grayish tan.

[william-james88]

Except not, because he wasn't shiny brown ion beast or robot mode.

Hasbro's Rhinox is shiny too, so both toys are wrong in that regard.

Color shade-wise, however, Takara's has the better brown vs. Hasbro's shade of grayish tan that Rhinox never had in the show.

How do you mean the hasbro one is shiny? I never noticed it, it could be a natural quality of the plastic color.

I have both Rhinoxes and Hasbro's is glossy and reflective of light just like Takara's.

Huh, well I guess that it was the metallic brown of the legends rhinox that put me off, b/c it was metallic on purpose.

I also thinks he is referring to the robot mode which is indeed quite shiny.

[Sabrblade]

Except not, because he wasn't shiny brown ion beast or robot mode.

Hasbro's Rhinox is shiny too, so both toys are wrong in that regard.

Color shade-wise, however, Takara's has the better brown vs. Hasbro's shade of grayish tan that Rhinox never had in the show.

How do you mean the hasbro one is shiny? I never noticed it, it could be a natural quality of the plastic color.

I have both Rhinoxes and Hasbro's is glossy and reflective of light just like Takara's.

Huh, well I guess that it was the metallic brown of the legends rhinox that put me off, b/c it was metallic on purpose.

I also thinks he is referring to the robot mode which is indeed quite shiny.

Nope, I mean the rhino skin parts. Neither Hasbro nor Takara made Rhinox's green robot parts shiny.

[Hellscream9999]

Except not, because he wasn't shiny brown ion beast or robot mode.

Hasbro's Rhinox is shiny too, so both toys are wrong in that regard.

Color shade-wise, however, Takara's has the better brown vs. Hasbro's shade of grayish tan that Rhinox never had in the show.

How do you mean the hasbro one is shiny? I never noticed it, it could be a natural quality of the plastic color.

I have both Rhinoxes and Hasbro's is glossy and reflective of light just like Takara's.

Huh, well I guess that it was the metallic brown of the legends rhinox that put me off, b/c it was metallic on purpose.

I also thinks he is referring to the robot mode which is indeed quite shiny.

Nope, I mean the rhino skin parts. Neither Hasbro nor Takara made Rhinox's green robot parts shiny.

Having looked at both, while the hasbro one is glossy, it is not metallic like TT's

[william-james88]

Nope, I mean the rhino skin parts. Neither Hasbro nor Takara made Rhinox's green robot parts shiny.

I find that gold shinier than the beige. But thats just me. Also, I preffer the dark brown, it is more show accurate. But as I said, he and Gelshark are just a few that really look different from Takara to Hasbro. The rest are less obvious. Also, I find the shininess really doesnt work on Takara's Blitzwing. I also was not fond of their AM 31 Megatron. That thing was way too shiny.

[Sabrblade]

Having looked at both, while the hasbro one is glossy, it is not metallic like TT's

"Metallic" is not a color, though.

[Hellscream9999]

Having looked at both, while the hasbro one is glossy, it is not metallic like TT's

"Metallic" is not a color, though.

No, but it describes a color that looks like polished metal in it's reflectivity, I use that type of color in my art a lot;

I don't really wanna keep arguing with ya, you're a great guy, and I respect you, so: It's a draw, they were both kind of a let down in the color department

[william-james88]

Having looked at both, while the hasbro one is glossy, it is not metallic like TT's

"Metallic" is not a color, though.

No, but it describes a color that looks like polished metal in it's reflectivity, I use that type of color in my art a lot;

I don't really wanna keep arguing with ya, you're a great guy, and I respect you, so: It's a draw, they were both kind of a let down in the color department

I'm dissapointed too. I would have preffered a matte version of the takara colors.

[DedicatedGhostArt]

Having looked at both, while the hasbro one is glossy, it is not metallic like TT's

"Metallic" is not a color, though.

No, but it describes a color that looks like polished metal in it's reflectivity, I use that type of color in my art a lot;

I don't really wanna keep arguing with ya, you're a great guy, and I respect you, so: It's a draw, they were both kind of a let down in the color department

Which figures?

[Hellscream9999]

Having looked at both, while the hasbro one is glossy, it is not metallic like TT's

"Metallic" is not a color, though.

No, but it describes a color that looks like polished metal in it's reflectivity, I use that type of color in my art a lot;

I don't really wanna keep arguing with ya, you're a great guy, and I respect you, so: It's a draw, they were both kind of a let down in the color department

Which figures?

Hasbro and TT rhinox

[RAR]

I'm fine with the Hasbro Rhinox colours in general as they complement the Original toy - however if they ever decide to reissue him I'd not mind a slightly grayer matt plastic for the Rhino Mode with some subtle pain accents to make him look nicely realistic as a Rhino and then on the interlimb parts the shiny paint effect Takara uses from time to time - not an out and out chrome look but just something with a sheen and shine to it to represent the CGI look.

In a way it's a shame that Transformers got so expensive that it makes boxed gift sets of random stuff impractical it might have been fun to see some of the Generations/TT-Legends toys in some of the more Eccentric alternative colour options like the Fox Kids colours for example.

Hopefully one day there will be a nice modern T-Rex Megatron in a decent size... Leader might be to big though he really needs to be a bit bigger than the old Ultra but not by much.

Perhaps the only way the design would be proper good though is if it's a Masterpiece like (Beast Convoy) Optimus Primal is going to be.

[munkimus prime]

Wait TT Rhinox's legs are tighter. I'm now kind of tempted to pick one up. I finally got to get Hasbro's Magnus so as much as I like the figure I don't know if I want the mold twice. Even with the new shiny paint job. I'm also not sure about the Alpha Trion either.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Wait TT Rhinox's legs are tighter. I'm now kind of tempted to pick one up. I finally got to get Hasbro's Magnus so as much as I like the figure I don't know if I want the mold twice. Even with the new shiny paint job. I'm also not sure about the Alpha Trion either.

the Alpha Trion really makes no sense, and if Hasbro is truly going to make a new Alpha Trion for titan wars (see that thread) then I do not see the point in this. Minimus is just great, and I forget who, but one reviewer was going to make him Micronus Prime since they were so similar