The Energon Pub

[Carnivius_Prime]

It s cool how you dont mind modding your figures. I get that the bright red can be offputting comapred to the show model but does anyone know if it matched the G1 toy? I am thinking thats what it is referencing.

Probably does match the old toy but for years that toy bothered me that it didn't match his colour in the cartoon OR the comic.

[william-james88]

Sharkticon reminds me of the united toys which were sparkly for the hell of it. And the paint is wrong right? Like the arms shouldnt be grey and the tail has the wrong colour.

The shark mode's arms, tail, and fin all appear to be gangmolded together, as they're all light blue plastic on Hasbro's. My guess is that Takara wanted the fin to be gray, but weren't able to gate the arms and tail off of the mold, making them be the same gray as the fin.

Couldnt they paint em then? Thats what hasbro did for the hands and feet of Krok.

And Carnivourus Prime, I see those red lines now, thanks! I wsa looking at the show model Cyberpath posted which seemed to omit them.

And yes, Kup does look grey there. But I really dont know why we keep looking at random instances to argue something we know to be false. Thats like showing this scene to argue that there were 2 teams of Bruticus in the Decepticon ranks all along:

[Carnivius_Prime]

And Carnivourus Prime, I see those red lines now, thanks! I wsa looking at the show model Cyberpath posted which seemed to omit them.

They're there if you can zoom into the image. They're quite thin.

[Sabrblade]

Sharkticon reminds me of the united toys which were sparkly for the hell of it. And the paint is wrong right? Like the arms shouldnt be grey and the tail has the wrong colour.

The shark mode's arms, tail, and fin all appear to be gangmolded together, as they're all light blue plastic on Hasbro's. My guess is that Takara wanted the fin to be gray, but weren't able to gate the arms and tail off of the mold, making them be the same gray as the fin.

Couldnt they paint em then? Thats what hasbro did for the hands and feet of Krok.

Maybe Takara used all its paint budget on the figure's shiny body.

[william-james88]

Sharkticon reminds me of the united toys which were sparkly for the hell of it. And the paint is wrong right? Like the arms shouldnt be grey and the tail has the wrong colour.

The shark mode's arms, tail, and fin all appear to be gangmolded together, as they're all light blue plastic on Hasbro's. My guess is that Takara wanted the fin to be gray, but weren't able to gate the arms and tail off of the mold, making them be the same gray as the fin.

Couldnt they paint em then? Thats what hasbro did for the hands and feet of Krok.

Maybe Takara used all its paint budget on the figure's shiny body.

Which is also not show accurate

[Carnivius_Prime]

Show accurate or not I have to say I do like Takara's Sharkticon. They even make that silly robot mode look good and the extra paint really brings out some nice contract and details. I passed over the Hasbro one in Toys R Us the other week but I'd probably get the Takara one if it was on the shelves here. Much better colours than the weird pastelly hasbro scheme

[Sabrblade]

Sharkticon reminds me of the united toys which were sparkly for the hell of it. And the paint is wrong right? Like the arms shouldnt be grey and the tail has the wrong colour.

The shark mode's arms, tail, and fin all appear to be gangmolded together, as they're all light blue plastic on Hasbro's. My guess is that Takara wanted the fin to be gray, but weren't able to gate the arms and tail off of the mold, making them be the same gray as the fin.

Couldnt they paint em then? Thats what hasbro did for the hands and feet of Krok.

Maybe Takara used all its paint budget on the figure's shiny body.

Which is also not show accurate

Just pretend that he just emerged from the waters of Quintessa. Wet = shiny, right?

[Nemesis Destron]

Friends please can we just agree to disagree about poor old Kup and just call this his clone?

[Carnivius_Prime]

Friends please can we just agree to disagree about poor old Kup and just call this his clone?

Why should this one be the clone?

[Nemesis Destron]

I think I'll pick up Takara's amazing Gnaw and surround him with several Hasbro Sharkticon's...'nuff said!

[joevill]

These are real nice.

[Nemesis Destron]

Friends please can we just agree to disagree about poor old Kup and just call this his clone?

Why should this one be the clone?

Just foolin'!

[Cyberpath]

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[Carnivius_Prime]

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Yeah none of them have the same colour as the show but Takara's really does have the best mold and colour layout and as I said I really do like the grey and for me it fits his age. Hasbro's TR version just looks too blocky and that weird head.

[RodimusConvoy13]

One thing I really like about Takara Kup is that his chest doesn't look upside down like the TR Kup.

[kurthy]

Just have the Legends one be old Kup and the TR one be young Kup like in Chaos, one of the episodes where Kup is really gray.

[william-james88]

Friends please can we just agree to disagree about poor old Kup and just call this his clone?

His dead clone

[Nemesis Destron]

Friends please can we just agree to disagree about poor old Kup and just call this his clone?

His dead clone

[Hydrargyrus]

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Yup, they all look gray to me. (Okay, that's a little bit of an exaggeration, but my colorblind point is made)

And, speaking of colorblindness and transformers color schemes, isn't it interesting how the mistaken gray Kup and yellow Constructicons arguably make more sense?

I'm not arguing with anyone; buy what you want, think what you wish. I just legitimately find this interesting.

[Cobotron]

Maybe Kup's grey has nothing to do with cartoon accuracy, but is simply because his name is Char.

[Kurona]

And, speaking of colorblindness and transformers color schemes, isn't it interesting how the mistaken gray Kup and yellow Constructicons arguably make more sense?

Yellow construction vehicles? In my Transformers?!

[Cobotron]

And, speaking of colorblindness and transformers color schemes, isn't it interesting how the mistaken gray Kup and yellow Constructicons arguably make more sense?

Yellow construction vehicles? In my Transformers?!

What is this?! G2?

[Insurgent]

And, speaking of colorblindness and transformers color schemes, isn't it interesting how the mistaken gray Kup and yellow Constructicons arguably make more sense?

Yellow construction vehicles? In my Transformers?!

Nah, just in mine.

[william-james88]

The forums have been busy since the reveal of Takara's take on Titans Return Hot Rod and Kup since they were not as expected and differ from Hasbro's in more ways than we would have guessed. So that we can see how each version compares to the G1 toys and cartoon models, the two aspects that are often homaged, fellow Seibertronian Cyberpath has taken the time to give us three charts showing the Takara and Hasbro versions of these latest Kup, Hot Rod and Sharkticon figures and comparing them to the source material. This gives us an idea of what is done right and what is done... less right. Let us know what you think and which versions you preffer!

[DMSL]

I am glad i bought the Hasbro versions.

The Targetmasters are cool, but both Hot Rod and Kup don't look like their G1 versions at all. Kup is the wrong colour and the face looks off. Hot Rod is a mess, big gap under the windshield where the engine is, no silver paint on the hubcaps or exhausts and that chest flame looks terrible. Is that a sticker? Jeez.

I was expecting so much more from Takara, hopefully the final products will be better.

Wait, but Hot Rod does have silver paint on his hubcaps and exhaust pipes. I understand and agree with your other points, but the paint is definitely there.

It looks like grey to me, but i could be wrong.

I am hoping the hood/chest will be more "traditional" at least.