The Energon Pub

[Emerje]

I'm finding myself continually frustrated with how Takara's Triggerhappy looks. It's very minor, but the white guns seem to be tinted blue and what they've gone for with the face just doesn't look as good as Hasbro's. But I really want that Targetmaster...

I feel like a lot of the colors in these photos come down to bad photography. The guns and other color-matched parts are different colors between the photos. But wouldn't it make more sense for those parts to be the same color as the pure white on the head?

I'm a little more concerned about the head being a lighter shade of blue from the rest of the body, that's consistent in all of the photos.

Emerje

[primalxconvoy]

What? Scourge gets turned into an Autobot, and turns the other Cobatrons into Autobots, only to be fought by OTHER Autobots who want to turn him and his comrades BACK into Decepticons?

The heck?

[Sabrblade]

What? Scourge gets turned into an Autobot, and turns the other Cobatrons into Autobots, only to be fought by OTHER Autobots who want to turn him and his comrades BACK into Decepticons?

The heck?

Even as a good guy, Black Convoy maintains a Lawfully Evil brand of order that's just too rigid for the other good guys to tolerate.

[Emerje]

What? Scourge gets turned into an Autobot, and turns the other Cobatrons into Autobots, only to be fought by OTHER Autobots who want to turn him and his comrades BACK into Decepticons?

The heck?

My understanding was that Skids' group of dimension hoppers was going against the will of the other Autobots and Decepticons on the Legends planet so Rattrap's group helped Dark Ai change Black Convoy and the Combatrons back to normal. Decepticons on the planet aren't so much "evil" as they are unscrupulous corporate rivals (even the ones that aren't natives) so turning them back into Decepticons isn't as bad as it would be in other stories. Mainly they were just trying to get them away from Skids and protect their Transtectors.

Emerje

[primalxconvoy]

Cheers. It's still a weird story. Not really my cup of "Ocha", if you will.

[Kurona]

I'm finding myself continually frustrated with how Takara's Triggerhappy looks. It's very minor, but the white guns seem to be tinted blue and what they've gone for with the face just doesn't look as good as Hasbro's. But I really want that Targetmaster...

I have the Hasbro version, and...to be honest, while the Targetmaster is neat, I just don't care. Hell, I don't even use his actual guns on mine, I just have him use the arm-mounted ones. And to me, the Hasbro face paint is better, and the peg hole on the Takara chest looks weird.

Not sure if that'll actually help your decision, I just wanted to throw that out there.

This is very true; if I was looking at it purely from a toy perspective, I wouldn't have much of a reason to go for Takara's over Hasbro's -- Hasbro's product is better, cheaper, and the only negative is it doesn't come with a Targetmaster which honestly doesn't look that amazing.

... buuuuut I want said Targetmaster. For headcanon fiction reasons.

[Insurgent]

I'm just hoping there will be some way of getting those targetmasters later down the line. Honestly, while I'd prefer those three jets have their targetmasters, the holes in their jet modes make me prefer the hasbro ones.

[Kurona]

Yeah, that's also a problem. Not one I particularly mind, though -- more areas to put guns are good, especially if they're right in the middle for symmetry. Not that the Targetmaster gun will look good anywhere...

[Sigma Magnus]

Buy both and resell the Takara without the Targetmaster? Oh, and what's this headcanon of yours?

[Emerje]

You know, if that rumor about a new Transformers subscription from Hasbro turns out to be true that would open the doors to things like a box of Targetmaster guns or pack them with six other characters like they did the Ultra Magnus Titan Master, and the rest of the Autobot Targetmasters (Crosshairs et al).

"Stay tuned!"

Emerje

[Nemesis Destron]

So did I imagine that Blitzwing will be a part of the Legends line? I guess when I read about Octane I simply assumed but I guess I was wrong...?

[Emerje]

So did I imagine that Blitzwing will be a part of the Legends line? I guess when I read about Octane I simply assumed but I guess I was wrong...?

It would be shocking if they didn't do him eventually since the previous figure was from the Generations line. I think the only reason why Octane happened first was because of Trypticon. I'm sure we'll hear something by the end of the year for a 2018 release.

Emerje

[Va'al]

In other news from Takara Tomy, this time about the Transformers Legends line, we have confirmation thanks to site sponsor TFSource that the Clone Autobot set, Blitzwing, and Overlord from the Titans Return line will see their Japanese release as LG-58, LG-59, and LG-60!

Again, we still have no images for the three listings, but prices in USD will be approximately 35, 55, and 90.

[Insurgent]

Do we know if the clones will be all 4, the Cloudraker/Wingspan pack or a Pounce/Fastlane pack?

[Kurona]

Do we know if the clones will be all 4, the Cloudraker/Wingspan pack or a Pounce/Fastlane pack?

We do not, but considering it's called 'clone set' rather than 'destron clone set' or 'cybertron clone set', I'm gonna assume it's all four.

Hey so disregard all that, the listing is actually for a "Clone BOT" set, so it's just Cloudraker and Fastlane for now.

[Insurgent]

Hhhmmmmm...... I'll be keeping an eye on that, if I can't find hasbro Pounce and Fastlane for a proper price.


EDIT: Hhmhmmmmmm..... I'll be keeping an eye on that, if I can't find hasbro Fastlane for a proper price.

[Kurona]

Honestly, with Takara releasing the clones like this, I'd fully expect Hasbro's Pounce and Fastlane to fall dramatically in price on ebay.

[Insurgent]

I hope so. That would be perfect.

[Burn]

psssst. Insurgent! Your sig is a wee bit large there mate!

[Nemesis Destron]

So did I imagine that Blitzwing will be a part of the Legends line? I guess when I read about Octane I simply assumed but I guess I was wrong...?

It would be shocking if they didn't do him eventually since the previous figure was from the Generations line. I think the only reason why Octane happened first was because of Trypticon. I'm sure we'll hear something by the end of the year for a 2018 release.

Emerje

That's some clairvoyance you got Emerje! My sincere thanks!

[Kurona]

So, I'd like to draw everyone's attention towards the prices.

-As presumably a set of two Legends figures, we don't have a direct comparison for the Clone Bots at 36 USD; but it seems to be consistent and sensible alongside, say, Bumblebee at 20 USD.

-At 55 USD, Blitzwing is the same price as Octane and Broadside -- both of whom came with extras. We could be seeing a Titan Master vehicle or even a new Titan Master alongside him.

-Of most note is Overlord at 90 USD. As this price is nowhere near Ginrai's 130, we can finally put to rest that there won't be overly major changes -- it is higher than Sixshot's 80 and Blaster's 85 though, so make of that what you will. Probably accounts for a second and maybe third Titan Master.

[Insurgent]

psssst. Insurgent! Your sig is a wee bit large there mate!

Sorry. Been so long since I changed sigs, I forgot there were limits. And I only changed it because Photobucket decided to be greedy. I'll figure out a way to get my old one back later.

[steals_your_goats]

Ginrai's original price on tfsource was $95 I believe. They most likely sold out, got a few extra in and then jacked up the price because they knew people would be desperate to get him. There could be more to their overlord but we won't know until he's revealed.

[william-james88]

So, I'd like to draw everyone's attention towards the prices.

-As presumably a set of two Legends figures, we don't have a direct comparison for the Clone Bots at 36 USD; but it seems to be consistent and sensible alongside, say, Bumblebee at 20 USD.

-At 55 USD, Blitzwing is the same price as Octane and Broadside -- both of whom came with extras. We could be seeing a Titan Master vehicle or even a new Titan Master alongside him.

-Of most note is Overlord at 90 USD. As this price is nowhere near Ginrai's 130, we can finally put to rest that there won't be overly major changes -- it is higher than Sixshot's 80 and Blaster's 85 though, so make of that what you will. Probably accounts for a second and maybe third Titan Master.

The US prices wont give us the best comparisons since we arnet taking into account the change in exchange during that time. It wasnt put in our news but here are the prices in yen







Compare those to Octane and Jinra
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1

And take into account the small tax amiami adds, you now notice that Overlord has the exact same MSRP as Ginrai.

[Kurona]

Well shoot, we're gonna get a badass Overlord