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[william-james88]

Yeah, now that I finally see them next to each other, I’m super happy with my Magic Square Prime. This over priced money grab (good looking one, though) is finally an easy pass.

But isnt magic square prime a trailer-less prime? I thought fans were in uproar over trailer-less optimus releases.

[-Kanrabat-]

Yeah, now that I finally see them next to each other, I’m super happy with my Magic Square Prime. This over priced money grab (good looking one, though) is finally an easy pass.

But isnt magic square prime a trailer-less prime? I thought fans were in uproar over trailer-less optimus releases.

The "Uproar" is only if the price asked is way too much for a trailer-less Optimus. Especially if it's a re-release that came with a trailer in the first place. Walmart's G1 reissue is the best example. 50$US/70$CAN for a trailer-less G1 Optimus is insulting. But a 25$US/34$CAN trailer-less G1 Optimus is perfectly fine.

Also, all those Optimusses that never came with a trailer in the first place don't count. Because seriously, it will be completely absurd if every single Optimusses ever came with a trailer.

[PadForce]

Yeah, now that I finally see them next to each other, I’m super happy with my Magic Square Prime. This over priced money grab (good looking one, though) is finally an easy pass.

Yeah, looks to me like you paid too much for whichever one of those other two you bought. But it's your money.

Difficult to "pay too much" for either of the other two when they are between 1/4 and 1/3 of the price.

Sounds are the only un-objective benefit 44 has over the others.

[sol magnus]

Yeah, now that I finally see them next to each other, I’m super happy with my Magic Square Prime. This over priced money grab (good looking one, though) is finally an easy pass.

Yeah, looks to me like you paid too much for whichever one of those other two you bought. But it's your money.

Difficult to "pay too much" for either of the other two when they are between 1/4 and 1/3 of the price.

Sounds are the only un-objective benefit 44 has over the others.

That's debatable. I could give a rat's patootie about sounds.

Superior engineering gives far superior articulation and range of movement, and therefore play value, which even though I'm sure most of us just stand them on a shelf still want in a figure. To say nothing of all the other stuff you get with it.

All the reasons I collect doesn't come down to the banality of price. I know price is a factor - I'm not rich. But it's not the only factor. Takara has poured a lot into this figure, which the extra features shows where the money went. If you want a knock-off brick that looks like a cartoon Optimus just because it's "cheaper", you do you. But, like Sunstreaker and Inferno, I can appreciate the construction and ingenuity of what looks to me like a Masterpiece worthy of the name.

[-Kanrabat-]

MP-44 do have the edge over articulations and poses that's for sure.

[Stargrave]

I’ll be honest I’m always rooting for the official product vs. the 3rd party stuff. I want the one with the official Autobrand to be the best. I know the 3rd party stuff gets pretty awesome but ah that’s just me. I would want an Optimus not some “Optimus” with some clever not-so-vague word play on his name for a handle and no official Autobrand. Just ramblin’

[MadProject]

found on youtube!

[PadForce]

Knock off brick is a funny comment given 44's backpack. I'm not bothered about play value so if that's key for you fair enough.

Not sure when discussing a $400 price became banal

[chuckdawg1999]

Amazon Japan charged my card today so Prime will be on its way to me soon

[william-james88]

found on youtube!

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJsuM_w0A18&fbclid=IwAR2HBWi0lRl8liH2rzoDbdPBtPZ_a5jGfyquI-Z0-rNcsZcwVBIZdVgg2HQ[/youtube]

Just use the code at the end of the video : oJsuM_w0A18

It becomes this:

[MadProject]

found on youtube!

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJsuM_w0A18&fbclid=IwAR2HBWi0lRl8liH2rzoDbdPBtPZ_a5jGfyquI-Z0-rNcsZcwVBIZdVgg2HQ[/youtube]

Just use the code at the end of the video : oJsuM_w0A18

It becomes this:

Thank you

[sol magnus]

Knock off brick is a funny comment given 44's backpack. I'm not bothered about play value so if that's key for you fair enough.

Not sure when discussing a $400 price became banal

Some people don't like a backpack they'll likely never actually see, sure. But the others being knock-off bricks is not up for debate. They are knock offs. They're dimensions are more brick-like. These are facts. I'm sure they make fine stand in statues.

The price point of $400 isn't the banal part. It's the discussion of price for a high end toy being too much when it's a first world issue is what is banal.

[chuckdawg1999]

I don't think the transformation looks THAT bad, it's almost intuitive with how everything has to fold and tab for robot mode.

[PadForce]

Knock off brick is a funny comment given 44's backpack. I'm not bothered about play value so if that's key for you fair enough.

Not sure when discussing a $400 price became banal

Some people don't like a backpack they'll likely never actually see, sure. But the others being knock-off bricks is not up for debate. They are knock offs. They're dimensions are more brick-like. These are facts. I'm sure they make fine stand in statues.

The price point of $400 isn't the banal part. It's the discussion of price for a high end toy being too much when it's a first world issue is what is banal.

I dont understand your brick comments - MP 44 silhouette from any angle other than the front is worse than the two others you are disparaging. Their dimensions are definitively not more brick like.

If discussing the price is banal,why did you bring it up by telling someone theyd paid too much for one of the other options?

[sol magnus]

Knock off brick is a funny comment given 44's backpack. I'm not bothered about play value so if that's key for you fair enough.

Not sure when discussing a $400 price became banal

Some people don't like a backpack they'll likely never actually see, sure. But the others being knock-off bricks is not up for debate. They are knock offs. They're dimensions are more brick-like. These are facts. I'm sure they make fine stand in statues.

The price point of $400 isn't the banal part. It's the discussion of price for a high end toy being too much when it's a first world issue is what is banal.

I dont understand your brick comments - MP 44 silhouette from any angle other than the front is worse than the two others you are disparaging. Their dimensions are definitively not more brick like.

If discussing the price is banal,why did you bring it up by telling someone theyd paid too much for one of the other options?

Those are not high-end collectibles. They're knock offs of a high end collectible. That's why.

I said:

All the reasons I collect doesn't come down to the banality of price. I know price is a factor - I'm not rich. But it's not the only factor.

Just because something is "cheaper" doesn't mean I want it. Although I am not in fact wealthy. A knock-off or an official version doesn't appeal to me one way or the other based on price alone.

As to the dimensions, they look like bricks to me. There is something more "off" about them from the front view than the Takara version. And I focus on the front not as a means to bash them, but because that's how I display my figures.

[PadForce]

Double post

[PadForce]

Knock off brick is a funny comment given 44's backpack. I'm not bothered about play value so if that's key for you fair enough.

Not sure when discussing a $400 price became banal

Some people don't like a backpack they'll likely never actually see, sure. But the others being knock-off bricks is not up for debate. They are knock offs. They're dimensions are more brick-like. These are facts. I'm sure they make fine stand in statues.

The price point of $400 isn't the banal part. It's the discussion of price for a high end toy being too much when it's a first world issue is what is banal.

I dont understand your brick comments - MP 44 silhouette from any angle other than the front is worse than the two others you are disparaging. Their dimensions are definitively not more brick like.

If discussing the price is banal,why did you bring it up by telling someone theyd paid too much for one of the other options?

Those are not high-end collectibles. They're knock offs. That's why.

Pretty sure knock offs are direct copies rather than bots with their own transformation? Anyway definition kind of irrelevant.

They other options clearly are high end due to some of the superior factors they have vs 44, just as 44 has a few things they dont have.

[sol magnus]

Knock off brick is a funny comment given 44's backpack. I'm not bothered about play value so if that's key for you fair enough.

Not sure when discussing a $400 price became banal

Some people don't like a backpack they'll likely never actually see, sure. But the others being knock-off bricks is not up for debate. They are knock offs. They're dimensions are more brick-like. These are facts. I'm sure they make fine stand in statues.

The price point of $400 isn't the banal part. It's the discussion of price for a high end toy being too much when it's a first world issue is what is banal.

I dont understand your brick comments - MP 44 silhouette from any angle other than the front is worse than the two others you are disparaging. Their dimensions are definitively not more brick like.

If discussing the price is banal,why did you bring it up by telling someone theyd paid too much for one of the other options?

Those are not high-end collectibles. They're knock offs. That's why.

Pretty sure knock offs are direct copies rather than bots with their own transformation? Anyway definition kind of irrelevant.

They other options clearly are high end due to some of the superior factors they have vs 44, just as 44 has a few things they dont have.

I edited my post, but let's use another term if it's not the 1. version of a "knock-off".

I don't think the lack of a backpack gives those...fakes? Homages? a superior competitive position over what MP-44 "lacks," but as I said from jump: It's your money.

[PadForce]

I'm not saying the others are definitevly superior, each clearly has selling points

[BLUDGEON]

Can we talk about 3rd party TFs? Does anyone collect Fanstoys MPs?
Anyone have an idea when Spoiler will come out and how much he will cost? Ive seen some wildly differing prices

[PadForce]

There is a separate thread where you may have more luck!

[william-james88]

Can we talk about 3rd party TFs? Does anyone collect Fanstoys MPs?
Anyone have an idea when Spoiler will come out and how much he will cost? Ive seen some wildly differing prices

Sure you can, right here: unlicensed-and-ko-transformers-toys-f215.php

Either find a thread that works with what you want to discuss or make anew thread there.

Cheers.

[Cyberpath]

Some pix from @Alfes2010 --


MP-10 and MP-44

Matrix

o_o

[SkyFire Prime]

Make a version without the trailer. For 250-300 dollars and you will have my business.

[Gambitgreen]

All I know is my cc was charged today with an estimated arrival next week. Waited a long time for this and I’m pumped!