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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Sun Sep 08, 2019 9:01 am

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Cyb, it just dawned on me, there is some precedence of Takara giving a crap about this kind of thing.

When the first Diaclone reboot Diabattles V2 was released his antenna were cast in a soft rubber. Most likely for safety and to prevent breakage. Most, including my own, ended up looking pretty wiggly and crocked. Either they got enough lash back from customers or the designers didn't like it, so Takara issued replacements cast in hard plastic. I believe these replacements were looked at as an upgrade rather than a replacement, and had to be purchased by those who wanted the fix.

Sorry, I can't recall all the specifics about why they did it, or how these parts were made available, as I wasn't bothered by the soft ones so I didn't bother with the replacement. I just remember it was a thing they did.

So there's that long winded story. :lol:

P.S. I think your fix looks great! :APPLAUSE:
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby Cyberpath » Sun Sep 08, 2019 9:39 am

Thanks for the input, guys!

And Cobs -- :lol: :lol:
Are you sure it was Takara though and not a 3P?
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:50 am

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Cyberpath wrote:I think I agree. I mean, it looked really bad out of the box, almost like the "battle damage" head -- but I think my fix turned out decent..? And since otherwise I got a pretty good copy (no paint flaws) (not to jinx it!) I better not take a risk with a reissue that may or may not happen, and may or may not have new flaws.

This thing sounds like its your spirit animal, so, I say, if you can look at it in bot mode and not be endlessly irritated for that imperfection, I'd say you're golden; besides, if a 3p company doesn't make parts for it, I'm sure you could commission someone on shapeways to do it
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:42 pm

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Cyberpath wrote:Thanks for the input, guys!

And Cobs -- :lol: :lol:
Are you sure it was Takara though and not a 3P?
This is all I could find posts/275691979447903


Well, like I said, my memory on this was hazy at best. But...
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From this news post.

I still think part of their reasoning for this head was to address the issue with the soft cast antenna, but the circumstances to acquire one were less than perfect. Being a convention exclusive and all.

And of course one had to purchase it, as opposed to it being a replacement for a flaw from a customer care side of things.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:45 pm

Cyberpath wrote:Thanks for the input, guys!

Your fix looks great Cyberpath. If that was your only reason to return it then i would recomend now to keep it.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby Cyberpath » Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:10 am

william-james88 wrote:Your fix looks great Cyberpath. If that was your only reason to return it then i would recomend now to keep it.
Thanks! Yeah, pretty much. I considered the possible outcomes of every decision and came to a conclusion that trying fix it myself first was the most logical way to go. The only drawback would have been a result that didn't satisfy me, yet passable enough so AJ wouldn't see it as a defect anymore.


Cobotron wrote:Well, like I said, my memory on this was hazy at best. But...

shajaki wrote:

From this news post.

I still think part of their reasoning for this head was to address the issue with the soft cast antenna, but the circumstances to acquire one were less than perfect. Being a convention exclusive and all.

And of course one had to purchase it, as opposed to it being a replacement for a flaw from a customer care side of things.

You found it! Reminds me more of the exclusive parts they used to give away with AJ pre-orders, like the stoic Bumblebee face plate. With the antennas being them learning from a past mistake. Shame they have a short memory.



I'm happy that like with the Megatron sculpt they based Optimus Prime's head on that very particular TOEI Animation style that I love so much. This is exactly the reference I had in mind. Photos of him look like screen captures. I appreciate the round face, too.

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The face/head swap gimmick is one of the best things to have happened to Transformers toys in recent years. (Wish it had carried over to Siege Skyfire, too.)
Wouldn't mind if someone made more options for MP-44 even though I already I have my favourite head style.


A few more from @dai_xp --

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(They also have good comparisons with the unlicensed ones.)


And his torso compared to the cab, from @HailHasbro --

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And if anyone was wondering how much space the voice box takes, someone took a photo without it -- img_20190903_190530-jpg.28380405/
I don't understand Takara's choice to include sound gimmicks in this line. I prefer a light in Megatron's fusion cannon and a sloping backpack for Optimus. But oh well.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:36 am

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Cyberpath wrote:I think I agree. I mean, it looked really bad out of the box, almost like the "battle damage" head -- but I think my fix turned out decent..? And since otherwise I got a pretty good copy (no paint flaws) (not to jinx it!) I better not take a risk with a reissue that may or may not happen, and may or may not have new flaws.

The thing is, those antennas after your fix are probably as good as they will ever be, even if you got a new copy.

I'm glad you found a fix and you didn't return it. Seemed to be over the top. Just me.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:13 am

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I found this on Facebook, a stop motion transformation video.







These vids are helping me get over my desire for this figure. Yeah, it still looks great, but not as amazing as first thought. This transformation is far more involved and complicated than it needs to be. My Magic Square Prime proves that at less than a third of the cost. Sure, the trailer is nice, but not $200+ nice.

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:21 am

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Another good comparison video:

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby Cyberpath » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:11 am

It's insane, MP-44 looks like a screen capture. I can almost hear the sound effects from the show.

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I remember being a little envious when MP Shockwave & Inferno/Grapple came out.

Even non-transforming PVC figures didn't get this close.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby Syclone » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:18 am

I love love love how the bot mode looks. The alt mode, not so much. But, truth be told, I never display my TFs in alt mode, so how much does it even matter? Argh, I want this guy....
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Postby Cyberpath » Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:14 am

Check it out -- stop motion

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Postby Cyberpath » Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:21 am

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby Syclone » Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:01 pm

I never had anything bad to say about MP-10 but next to MP-44.....woof
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:32 pm

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:04 pm

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I know this guy is not worth the money. I know it, no doubts. Yet, everyday I find myself within one finger twitch of purchasing, running all kinds of asinine and bullshit justifications in head.

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:16 pm

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Ironhidensh wrote:I know this guy is not worth the money. I know it, no doubts. Yet, everyday I find myself within one finger twitch of purchasing, running all kinds of asinine and bullshit justifications in head.

God damn, plastic crack addiction is real.


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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:19 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:I know this guy is not worth the money. I know it, no doubts. Yet, everyday I find myself within one finger twitch of purchasing, running all kinds of asinine and bullshit justifications in head.

God damn, plastic crack addiction is real.


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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby Syclone » Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:52 pm

Ironhidensh wrote:I know this guy is not worth the money. I know it, no doubts. Yet, everyday I find myself within one finger twitch of purchasing, running all kinds of asinine and bullshit justifications in head.

God damn, plastic crack addiction is real.



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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:46 pm

Ironhidensh wrote:I know this guy is not worth the money. I know it, no doubts. Yet, everyday I find myself within one finger twitch of purchasing, running all kinds of asinine and bullshit justifications in head.

God damn, plastic crack addiction is real.

Its gonna be worse when he wont be available at first party retailers, and 100$ more on the secondary market.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:20 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:I know this guy is not worth the money. I know it, no doubts. Yet, everyday I find myself within one finger twitch of purchasing, running all kinds of asinine and bullshit justifications in head.

God damn, plastic crack addiction is real.

Its gonna be worse when he wont be available at first party retailers, and 100$ more on the secondary market.

Actually, the way my mind works, that will make it much easier to do without. My problem is that it's still readily available for $350. I need that price point to disappear.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:09 pm

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Ironhidensh wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:I know this guy is not worth the money. I know it, no doubts. Yet, everyday I find myself within one finger twitch of purchasing, running all kinds of asinine and bullshit justifications in head.

God damn, plastic crack addiction is real.

Its gonna be worse when he wont be available at first party retailers, and 100$ more on the secondary market.

Actually, the way my mind works, that will make it much easier to do without. My problem is that it's still readily available for $350. I need that price point to disappear.


Look like your inner caveman want it NAO.
So better commit when he's at the cheapest. Because otherwise, it will be too late.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:42 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:I know this guy is not worth the money. I know it, no doubts. Yet, everyday I find myself within one finger twitch of purchasing, running all kinds of asinine and bullshit justifications in head.

God damn, plastic crack addiction is real.

Its gonna be worse when he wont be available at first party retailers, and 100$ more on the secondary market.

Actually, the way my mind works, that will make it much easier to do without. My problem is that it's still readily available for $350. I need that price point to disappear.


Look like your inner caveman want it NAO.
So better commit when he's at the cheapest. Because otherwise, it will be too late.


My inner caveman is a complete dumbass when it comes to money, he should always be ignored. See, here is the problem with me: if I buy this guy, even at its cheapest, its still over priced. I'm gonna enjoy it for a couple of weeks, but that feeling is gonna keep eating at me. Eventually, all I'll be able to see is the loss of money.

It happened with BWMP Dinobot.

It happened with BWMP Megatron.

Both great figures, and I enjoyed and liked them both (Megatron far more than Dinobot, but whatevs), and both figures not worth the money charged for them. It ate at me and ate at me. Eventually, I sold them both, and I have no regrets.
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