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Re: Takara Transformers MP-30 Masterpiece Ratchet Revealed

Postby Ultra Markus » Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:32 pm

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Yeah, they're going for the models as specified by the original Diaclone toys. In Ironhide's case he's "Onebox Cherry Vanette" owned by Nissan.

looking at pictures of both the nissan and toyota vans they are very similar
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Ultra Markus wrote:so they are licenced by Nissan? i thought they looked like Toyata's town ace van


Yeah, they're going for the models as specified by the original Diaclone toys. In Ironhide's case he's "Onebox Cherry Vanette" owned by Nissan.


Would it would be safe to say that Hasbro would have no trouble releasing these guys since they released Prowl and Blue Streak who are also licensed by Nissan?
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Re: Takara Transformers MP-30 Masterpiece Ratchet Revealed

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:38 pm

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Is it bad that i am entertained by how much we love ratchet yet there is so much Ironhide hate and they use the exact same mold?

either way, that Ratchet is gorgeous :BOT:
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Re: Takara Transformers MP-30 Masterpiece Ratchet Revealed

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:56 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Is it bad that i am entertained by how much we love ratchet yet there is so much Ironhide hate and they use the exact same mold?

either way, that Ratchet is gorgeous :BOT:


Technically, ratchet has remolded parts, and those parts (the diaper specifically) play a major role in our subconscious understanding of what looks proportionately correct, the straight lines work a lot like patterns on clothing in making you perceive something in a certain way. I believe that that and the color are working really hard in this guys favor.

Plus the other factors, like the fact that he may be a lesser known/loved character and thus comes under far less scrutiny, or the fact that we knew this was coming and thus you are just resigned to accepting it.
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Re: Takara Transformers MP-30 Masterpiece Ratchet Revealed

Postby Deathsaurus1 » Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:08 pm

Idk why people complain about ironhide.
They both look awesome to me
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Re: Takara Transformers MP-30 Masterpiece Ratchet Revealed

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:10 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Is it bad that i am entertained by how much we love ratchet yet there is so much Ironhide hate and they use the exact same mold?

either way, that Ratchet is gorgeous :BOT:


Technically, ratchet has remolded parts, and those parts (the diaper specifically) play a major role in our subconscious understanding of what looks proportionately correct, the straight lines work a lot like patterns on clothing in making you perceive something in a certain way. I believe that that and the color are working really hard in this guys favor.

Plus the other factors, like the fact that he may be a lesser known/loved character and thus comes under far less scrutiny, or the fact that we knew this was coming and thus you are just resigned to accepting it.

Either works for me. They both still look very nice to me. :BOT:
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Re: Takara Transformers MP-30 Masterpiece Ratchet Revealed

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:20 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Is it bad that i am entertained by how much we love ratchet yet there is so much Ironhide hate and they use the exact same mold?

either way, that Ratchet is gorgeous :BOT:


Technically, ratchet has remolded parts, and those parts (the diaper specifically) play a major role in our subconscious understanding of what looks proportionately correct, the straight lines work a lot like patterns on clothing in making you perceive something in a certain way. I believe that that and the color are working really hard in this guys favor.

Plus the other factors, like the fact that he may be a lesser known/loved character and thus comes under far less scrutiny, or the fact that we knew this was coming and thus you are just resigned to accepting it.

Either works for me. They both still look very nice to me. :BOT:


I would hazard to say that if ih had ratchets diaper that he would 'look' infinitely better due to the lines on ih's diaper draw your eye to the center of it and then you register how disproportionate it is; I'm not big into fashion or art theory, so I can only say so much, but this - I believe - is definitely what goin' on :-B
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Re: Takara Transformers MP-30 Masterpiece Ratchet Revealed

Postby william-james88 » Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:51 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:so they are licenced by Nissan? i thought they looked like Toyata's town ace van


Yeah, they're going for the models as specified by the original Diaclone toys. In Ironhide's case he's "Onebox Cherry Vanette" owned by Nissan.


Would it would be safe to say that Hasbro would have no trouble releasing these guys since they released Prowl and Blue Streak who are also licensed by Nissan?


Yes, I think it is safe to say they will be issued by Hasbro. However, since the sled is a part all on its own I wouldnt put it past Hasbro to release them without it.

Hellscream9999 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Is it bad that i am entertained by how much we love ratchet yet there is so much Ironhide hate and they use the exact same mold?

either way, that Ratchet is gorgeous :BOT:


Technically, ratchet has remolded parts, and those parts (the diaper specifically) play a major role in our subconscious understanding of what looks proportionately correct, the straight lines work a lot like patterns on clothing in making you perceive something in a certain way. I believe that that and the color are working really hard in this guys favor.

Plus the other factors, like the fact that he may be a lesser known/loved character and thus comes under far less scrutiny, or the fact that we knew this was coming and thus you are just resigned to accepting it.


That is all so well said. I would also like say that it has a lot to do with the fact that there is less contrast on ratchet. It's all white so parts like the hip kibble blend better with the robot.
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Re: Takara Transformers MP-30 Masterpiece Ratchet Revealed

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:08 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
LOST Cybertronian wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:so they are licenced by Nissan? i thought they looked like Toyata's town ace van


Yeah, they're going for the models as specified by the original Diaclone toys. In Ironhide's case he's "Onebox Cherry Vanette" owned by Nissan.


Would it would be safe to say that Hasbro would have no trouble releasing these guys since they released Prowl and Blue Streak who are also licensed by Nissan?


Yes, I think it is safe to say they will be issued by Hasbro. However, since the sled is a part all on its own I wouldnt put it past Hasbro to release them without it.

Hellscream9999 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Is it bad that i am entertained by how much we love ratchet yet there is so much Ironhide hate and they use the exact same mold?

either way, that Ratchet is gorgeous :BOT:


Technically, ratchet has remolded parts, and those parts (the diaper specifically) play a major role in our subconscious understanding of what looks proportionately correct, the straight lines work a lot like patterns on clothing in making you perceive something in a certain way. I believe that that and the color are working really hard in this guys favor.

Plus the other factors, like the fact that he may be a lesser known/loved character and thus comes under far less scrutiny, or the fact that we knew this was coming and thus you are just resigned to accepting it.


That is all so well said. I would also like say that it has a lot to do with the fact that there is less contrast on ratchet. It's all white so parts like the hip kibble blend better with the robot.


That is, if hasbro intends to release it, or any other mp of late either >:oP It would be an interesting move on hasbro's part, if they did a full-blown retail release of mp ramjet...
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Re: Takara Transformers MP-30 Masterpiece Ratchet Revealed

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:08 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Is it bad that i am entertained by how much we love ratchet yet there is so much Ironhide hate and they use the exact same mold?

either way, that Ratchet is gorgeous :BOT:


Technically, ratchet has remolded parts, and those parts (the diaper specifically) play a major role in our subconscious understanding of what looks proportionately correct, the straight lines work a lot like patterns on clothing in making you perceive something in a certain way. I believe that that and the color are working really hard in this guys favor.

Plus the other factors, like the fact that he may be a lesser known/loved character and thus comes under far less scrutiny, or the fact that we knew this was coming and thus you are just resigned to accepting it.


That is all so well said. I would also like say that it has a lot to do with the fact that there is less contrast on ratchet. It's all white so parts like the hip kibble blend better with the robot.

Never really thought of that till you said it. It does work much better :BOT:
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Re: Takara Transformers MP-30 Masterpiece Ratchet Revealed

Postby Cobotron » Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:32 pm

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william-james88 wrote:That is all so well said. I would also like say that it has a lot to do with the fact that there is less contrast on ratchet. It's all white so parts like the hip kibble blend better with the robot.
The black tires aren't gonna blend better. :shock:
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Re: Takara Transformers MP-30 Masterpiece Ratchet Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:34 pm

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william-james88 wrote:That is all so well said. I would also like say that it has a lot to do with the fact that there is less contrast on ratchet. It's all white so parts like the hip kibble blend better with the robot.
The black tires aren't gonna blend better. :shock:
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Re: Takara Transformers MP-30 Masterpiece Ratchet Revealed

Postby william-james88 » Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:40 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:That is, if hasbro intends to release it, or any other mp of late either >:oP It would be an interesting move on hasbro's part, if they did a full-blown retail release of mp ramjet...


Hasbro confirmed that they intend to follow through on other MP releases. They havent stopped since the line revamped. The only hiccough in the way would be licensing since thats handled per company (and country of company's resience) and not per figure.
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Postby SkyWarpt » Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:48 pm

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william-james88 wrote:That is all so well said. I would also like say that it has a lot to do with the fact that there is less contrast on ratchet. It's all white so parts like the hip kibble blend better with the robot.
The black tires aren't gonna blend better. :shock:
Ah yes, Ratchet too will have butt wheels.

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They both look awesome to me


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Re: Takara Transformers MP-30 Masterpiece Ratchet Revealed

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Deathsaurus1 wrote:Idk why people complain about ironhide.
They both look awesome to me


This.

Agreed! I like the subtitle differences between the two molds. I don't mind Ironhide's "diaper" as it's called. I think aesthetically Ratchet's looks better but IH's is toon accurate. I've come to the conclusion that some people are going to complain no matter what.
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Postby fenrir72 » Mon Nov 09, 2015 1:12 am

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Deathsaurus1 wrote:Idk why people complain about ironhide.
They both look awesome to me


This.

Agreed! I like the subtitle differences between the two molds. I don't mind Ironhide's "diaper" as it's called. I think aesthetically Ratchet's looks better but IH's is toon accurate. I've come to the conclusion that some people are going to complain no matter what.


Let them regret BWAHAHAHA, seriously, complaining over something that hasn't been released yet?

If I'm gonna complain, it not having an updated Megatron for the 30th anniversary. :-(

Keep it coming TT!

So IH on January, Ratchet April? Then June or July might be..........Hound?
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SkyWarpt wrote:
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Deathsaurus1 wrote:Idk why people complain about ironhide.
They both look awesome to me


This.

Agreed! I like the subtitle differences between the two molds. I don't mind Ironhide's "diaper" as it's called. I think aesthetically Ratchet's looks better but IH's is toon accurate. I've come to the conclusion that some people are going to complain no matter what.


Let them regret BWAHAHAHA, seriously, complaining over something that hasn't been released yet?

If I'm gonna complain, it not having an updated Megatron for the 30th anniversary. :-(

Keep it coming TT!

So IH on January, Ratchet April? Then June or July might be..........Hound?

Quick regress: Isn't Hound supposed to be MP-29? If so shouldn't he be first? Or am I missing one and Hound is MP 31? :BOT:
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fenrir72 wrote:
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Deathsaurus1 wrote:Idk why people complain about ironhide.
They both look awesome to me


This.

Agreed! I like the subtitle differences between the two molds. I don't mind Ironhide's "diaper" as it's called. I think aesthetically Ratchet's looks better but IH's is toon accurate. I've come to the conclusion that some people are going to complain no matter what.


Let them regret BWAHAHAHA, seriously, complaining over something that hasn't been released yet?

If I'm gonna complain, it not having an updated Megatron for the 30th anniversary. :-(

Keep it coming TT!

So IH on January, Ratchet April? Then June or July might be..........Hound?

Quick regress: Isn't Hound supposed to be MP-29? If so shouldn't he be first? Or am I missing one and Hound is MP 31? :BOT:
Hound's still in the rumor stage. Takara hasn't confirmed or denied him yet. Hot Rodimus is MP-28, followed by Destron Laserwave as MP-29.
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Re: Takara Transformers MP-30 Masterpiece Ratchet Revealed

Postby Hellscream9999 » Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:04 am

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
SkyWarpt wrote:
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Deathsaurus1 wrote:Idk why people complain about ironhide.
They both look awesome to me


This.

Agreed! I like the subtitle differences between the two molds. I don't mind Ironhide's "diaper" as it's called. I think aesthetically Ratchet's looks better but IH's is toon accurate. I've come to the conclusion that some people are going to complain no matter what.


Let them regret BWAHAHAHA, seriously, complaining over something that hasn't been released yet?

If I'm gonna complain, it not having an updated Megatron for the 30th anniversary. :-(

Keep it coming TT!

So IH on January, Ratchet April? Then June or July might be..........Hound?

Quick regress: Isn't Hound supposed to be MP-29? If so shouldn't he be first? Or am I missing one and Hound is MP 31? :BOT:
Hound's still in the rumor stage. Takara hasn't confirmed or denied him yet. Hot Rodimus is MP-28, followed by Destron Laserwave as MP-29.


Well at the rate they're being unveiled, I'd expect pics of him by tonight, or tomorrow :lol:
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Re: Takara Transformers MP-30 Masterpiece Ratchet Revealed

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:33 am

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Deathsaurus1 wrote:Idk why people complain about ironhide.
They both look awesome to me


This.

Agreed! I like the subtitle differences between the two molds. I don't mind Ironhide's "diaper" as it's called. I think aesthetically Ratchet's looks better but IH's is toon accurate. I've come to the conclusion that some people are going to complain no matter what.


Let them regret BWAHAHAHA, seriously, complaining over something that hasn't been released yet?

If I'm gonna complain, it not having an updated Megatron for the 30th anniversary. :-(

Keep it coming TT!

So IH on January, Ratchet April? Then June or July might be..........Hound?

Quick regress: Isn't Hound supposed to be MP-29? If so shouldn't he be first? Or am I missing one and Hound is MP 31? :BOT:
Hound's still in the rumor stage. Takara hasn't confirmed or denied him yet. Hot Rodimus is MP-28, followed by Destron Laserwave as MP-29.

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Re: Takara Transformers MP-30 Masterpiece Ratchet Revealed

Postby Deathsaurus1 » Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:31 pm

Mp-31 WHEELIE!!!
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Re: Takara Transformers MP-30 Masterpiece Ratchet Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:35 pm

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Deathsaurus1 wrote:Mp-31 WHEELIE!!!
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Re: Takara Transformers MP-30 Masterpiece Ratchet Revealed

Postby Cobotron » Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:45 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Deathsaurus1 wrote:Mp-31 WHEELIE!!!
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What is this madness, Sabr?! For real?
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Re: Takara Transformers MP-30 Masterpiece Ratchet Revealed

Postby Wolfman Jake » Mon Nov 09, 2015 1:29 pm

Motto: ""A mountain with a wolf on it stands a little taller."
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Wouldn't a Masterpiece Wheelie have to be even smaller that Masterpiece Bumblebee to be in scale with the rest of the line.

For that matter, what are they going to do for the other mini vehicles when their times finally come for the Masterpiece line? Will Huffer be a weirdly small truck? Powerglide a tiny plane? Warpath a miniature tank?
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