The Energon Pub

[Noideaforaname]

This sets all kinds of crazy. I can't tell if it's just pure randomness or if it has a mad logic behind it all.
Does this count as a hint that Tarn is Roller?


Though I'm disappointed that Thrust appears to have a mouth. Granted I have a sneaking suspicion the head was designed with a different Thrust in mind...

And that makes 2 Takara-exclusive Prime Breakdowns.

[Optimizzy]

that ghost starscream is an utter disappointment. Still, thrust and breakdown are cool.

[Hellscream9999]

This seems like the sort of mumbo-jumbo repainted combiner we should have gotten from hasbro, or funpub; as this is easily crazier than both mayhem maximus and quin tri-predacus combined

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Thankfully he's nothing like that.

And I'm always game for dimension/universe hoppers of any kind.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

This is a case of I didn't know I wanted it, but now I really do. I am seriously considering pre-ordering this thing when it comes in stock!

[Hellscream9999]

This is a case of I didn't know I wanted it, but now I really do. I am seriously considering pre-ordering this thing when it comes in stock!

Dude, I am so getting this

But, man, spring is gonna be expensive, based on what's filtering into the online retailers at that point

[Mkall]

Holy crap, I need this set! Roller and Thrust alone are awesome.

[Sabrblade]

Never EVER in a million years would have guessed Roller (either one).

[SW's SilverHammer]

So from my terrible understanding of Japanese, here's a summary.

After Galvatron's death, Cyclonus was possessed by his spirit. Due to galvatron's rage and hatred and being an asshole, he reformated his/Cyclonis's body into a scramble combiner body. With the aid of Unicron's singularity and interdimensional powers, they are able to pluck warriors from the dark side of the force to be part of the Galvatronus combiner.

Starscream is partially physical and partially an energy being/Blue Jedi Ghost who is cooperating for unknown reasons.

Thrust was taken by Unicron postmortem, and miiiight plan to subvert Galvatron and take revenge on Unicron? My translation of this one was the worse

Breakdown was taken after Silas Breakdown's death, and his spark was returned to the carcass. His rage was so great not even death could stop him. He hopes if he continues to cooperate with Galvatron/Cyclonus Unicron will return him to his home dimension.

Roller is there due to his feelings of abadonment, causing a massive grudge against the autobots. Because of this, Roller is cooperating in order to get revenge against those who abandoned him. So it's MTMTE Roller after All Our Parlous Yesterdays.

[Hellscream9999]

So from my terrible understanding of Japanese, here's a summary.

After Galvatron's death, Cyclonus was possessed by his spirit. Due to galvatron's rage and hatred and being an asshole, he reformated his/Cyclonis's body into a scramble combiner body. With the aid of Unicron's singularity and interdimensional powers, they are able to pluck warriors from the dark side of the force to be part of the Galvatronus combiner.

Starscream is partially physical and partially an energy being/Blue Jedi Ghost who is cooperating for unknown reasons.

Thrust was taken by Unicron postmortem, and miiiight plan to subvert Galvatron and take revenge on Unicron? My translation of this one was the worse

Breakdown was taken after Silas Breakdown's death, and his spark was returned to the carcass. His rage was so great not even death could stop him. He hopes if he continues to cooperate with Galvatron/Cyclonus Unicron will return him to his home dimension.

Roller is there due to his feelings of abadonment, causing a massive grudge against the autobots. Because of this, Roller is cooperating in order to get revenge against those who abandoned him. So it's MTMTE Roller after All Our Parlous Yesterdays.

A combiner servant of Unicron... Definitely gonna need this now...

[william-james88]

So anyone know what the theme of this guy is? It seems very random, but I don't know of anything from the comics...

Well if you read the bios, they are all dead and reborn through Unicron. That Roller is the roller that got sucked up / died when Optimus died in the movie.

So what does this mean? bbts and the like will get pre-orders up at a later date, or same time, but more expensive?

And yes, yes it is worth it...

It will be on BBTS and other sites shortly for anywhere between 160-180$. Still cheaper than TFSS.

That's a new head on Starscream as well, correct?

Yup, and these are technically all new heads for Japan since they never got Cyclonus, Rook or the Offroad head (they are getting the alpha bravo head with Vortex). So they are giving their local market nothing but new headsculpts with this set. That's awesome!

that ghost starscream is an utter disappointment. Still, thrust and breakdown are cool.

With the new head and clear plastic, its probably the one I want the most aside from Cyclonus.

I don't see a sigil, so maybe?

The autobot sigil is in dark grey on the vehicle mode.

[Sabrblade]

So from my terrible understanding of Japanese, here's a summary.

After Galvatron's death, Cyclonus was possessed by his spirit. Due to galvatron's rage and hatred and being an asshole, he reformated his/Cyclonis's body into a scramble combiner body. With the aid of Unicron's singularity and interdimensional powers, they are able to pluck warriors from the dark side of the force to be part of the Galvatronus combiner.

Starscream is partially physical and partially an energy being/Blue Jedi Ghost who is cooperating for unknown reasons.

Thrust was taken by Unicron postmortem, and miiiight plan to subvert Galvatron and take revenge on Unicron? My translation of this one was the worse

Breakdown was taken after Silas Breakdown's death, and his spark was returned to the carcass. His rage was so great not even death could stop him. He hopes if he continues to cooperate with Galvatron/Cyclonus Unicron will return him to his home dimension.

Roller is there due to his feelings of abadonment, causing a massive grudge against the autobots. Because of this, Roller is cooperating in order to get revenge against those who abandoned him. So it's MTMTE Roller after All Our Parlous Yesterdays.

That all has GOT to be Ichikawa's work. Only he could come up with something so fanwanky and relate to Western-original media (IDW's MTMTE comics) and concepts (Unicron's formerly-singular nature).

[Hellscream9999]

So what does this mean? bbts and the like will get pre-orders up at a later date, or same time, but more expensive?

It will be on BBTS and other sites shortly for anywhere between 160-180$. Still cheaper than TFSS.

That seems fair for all the paint (and the detail apps), translucent parts, and new head molds, this is entirely reasonable, probably wouldn't pay more than $180 for it though, that's asking a little much.


And, is it just me, or does it look like cyclonus is comprised entirely of metallic plastic/paint... that might be an issue with longevity

[Jelze Bunnycat]

So what does this mean? bbts and the like will get pre-orders up at a later date, or same time, but more expensive?

It will be on BBTS and other sites shortly for anywhere between 160-180$. Still cheaper than TFSS.

That seems fair for all the paint (and the detail apps), translucent parts, and new head molds, this is entirely reasonable, probably wouldn't pay more than $180 for it though, that's asking a little much

Just two new heads (Starscream's and Thrust's), and given Demolishor's head in the Onslaught mold, I wouldn't put past HasTak that those heads were built in from the start, just in case.

[william-james88]

Just two new heads (Starscream's and Thrust's), and given Demolishor's head in the Onslaught mold, I wouldn't put past HasTak that those heads were built in from the start, just in case.

But for Japan, its 5 new heads since none of these were ever distributed there yet. And yeah, I am certain these were planned by takara from the start when Hasbro was doing their own designs for alternate heads.

[Ultra Markus]

i really want that

[SW's SilverHammer]

Did some more trasnlating. Thrust wants to subvert the Galvatron personality in the combiner, and use the new body to take revenge on Unicron, after his death in the Armada cartoon

Breakdown wants return to his home dimension to reunite with Knockout. Tragic love story here.

Also I think this might confirm prematurely, Rollar is tarn To loosely quote a hookey ancient space religion, "Anger, fear, aggression; the dark side of the Force are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight. If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will".”

[Hellscream9999]

Man, I bet this guys box art is gonna be epic

[Gearslide]

So it DID end up being a "Characters-related to Unicron" combiner.

You have:
-G1 Cyclonus/Galvatron (Obvious)
-G1 Ghost Starscream (Pretended to work for Unicron)
-Armada Thrust (Agreed to help Sideways work for Unicron)
-Prime Zombie Breakdown (Infused with Dark Energon, AKA Unicron's blood)
-"Wandering" Roller (This one is weird, but apparently it's G1 Roller who was lost between dimensions then rescued by Unicron and now he hates Optimus).

[SW's SilverHammer]

So it DID end up being a "Characters-related to Unicron" combiner.

You have:
-G1 Cyclonus/Galvatron (Obvious)
-G1 Ghost Starscream (Pretended to work for Unicron)
-Armada Thrust (Agreed to help Sideways work for Unicron)
-Prime Zombie Breakdown (Infused with Dark Energon, AKA Unicron's blood)
-"Wandering" Roller (This one is weird, but apparently it's G1 Roller who was lost between dimensions then rescued by Unicron and now he hates Optimus).

It's IDW Roller. And it's a long story.

[fenrir72]

That's a new head on Starscream as well, correct?

Reminds me of FOC Seeker head. On a somewhat related topic, TT can invest in adding new heads and give Ramjet a good head while Hb Blastoff is a straight recolor with no improvements?

[Gearslide]

So it DID end up being a "Characters-related to Unicron" combiner.

You have:
-G1 Cyclonus/Galvatron (Obvious)
-G1 Ghost Starscream (Pretended to work for Unicron)
-Armada Thrust (Agreed to help Sideways work for Unicron)
-Prime Zombie Breakdown (Infused with Dark Energon, AKA Unicron's blood)
-"Wandering" Roller (This one is weird, but apparently it's G1 Roller who was lost between dimensions then rescued by Unicron and now he hates Optimus).

It's IDW Roller. And it's a long story.

Is it??

I didn't pick that up from the Bio from takaratomymall. I understand if it's similar to the whole theory of "IDW Roller is Tarn" thing, but I didn't read that.

Also, it's amusing, but it's worth pointing out that Cyclonus' use of Blues and Purples is nearly spot on with the original G1 Cartoon and movie, and thus:

HASBRO Galvatronus: G1 Toy Accurate Cyclonus + G1 Cartoon Accurate Galvatron
TAKARA Grand Galvatron: G1 Cartoon Accurate Cyclonus + G1 Toy Accurate Galvatron.

[Sabrblade]

That's a new head on Starscream as well, correct?

Reminds me of FOC Seeker head. On a somewhat related topic, TT can invest in adding new heads and give Ramjet a good head while Hb Blastoff is a straight recolor with no improvements?

These new heads were likely pretooled by Hasbro from the beginning rather than created wholesale by TakaraTomy.

After all, that Starscream head appears on every Hasbro Designers Desk image for all the CW Deluxes.

[SW's SilverHammer]

So it DID end up being a "Characters-related to Unicron" combiner.

You have:
-G1 Cyclonus/Galvatron (Obvious)
-G1 Ghost Starscream (Pretended to work for Unicron)
-Armada Thrust (Agreed to help Sideways work for Unicron)
-Prime Zombie Breakdown (Infused with Dark Energon, AKA Unicron's blood)
-"Wandering" Roller (This one is weird, but apparently it's G1 Roller who was lost between dimensions then rescued by Unicron and now he hates Optimus).

It's IDW Roller. And it's a long story.

Is it??

I didn't pick that up from the Bio from takaratomymall. I understand if it's similar to the whole theory of "IDW Roller is Tarn" thing, but I didn't read that.

It's subtle, but it suggests that this roller was taken from directly after the vents of MTMTE #36, in which after time traveling shenanigans, Roller is abandoned by his autobot comrades. Reference. Also the main artist for the Unite warriors stuff and takara legends comics is one the MTMTE artists sooooooo spoilers?

[Sabrblade]

Translated bios:

Tactician Cyclonus:

Emperor of Destruction Galvatron's loyal Air Staff Officer. Transforms into a Sci-Fi jet. Receiving a revelation from the dead Galvatron, Cyclonus takes Galvatron's spirit into his body and reformats himself into a new combination-capable "scramble body". Using the power of the Interstellar Emperor Unicron, Cyclonus summons from other dimensions warriors bearing strong malice and evil power. Using the combined energy of their malice, they seek Galvatron's complete resurrection!

Ghost Starscream:

Former "Number 2" of the Destron Army; known by all as a traitor. Transforms into a jet fighter. Wandering space as a being of pure spirit energy, Starscream was resurrected by the power of Unicron and sealed into a half-living-half-dead, insubstantial "ghost body". Now, his insubstantial form radiates the malicious energy generated by his hatred of his murderer, Galvatron. He appears to be cooperating with Cyclonus and Galvatron, to whom he owes his resurrection, but his true nature remains unclear.

Curse Armada Thrust:

Destron warrior from another dimension, he is known as a cool-headed strategist. Transforms into a jet fighter. Once crushed to death during Unicron's transformation, Thrust harbors complicated feelings towards being summoned and resurrected by the Unicron of another dimension. It seems like he secretly plots to somehow use the revived "Grand Galvatron" formed, in part, by his new "scramble body" to get his revenge on Unicron.

Zombie War Breakdown:

Decepticon (yes, it specifically calls him a Decepticon) warrior from another dimension, he is adept at destruction. Transforms into an off-road car. Killed by his comrades and forced to suffer the use of his corpse by human, Breakdown's incredible malice would not allow him to die. Instead, he roamed the earth as a zombie until he was summoned by the Unicron of another dimension. Resurrected in a new "scramble body", Breakdown faithfully obeys the orders of his new master. However, in his deepest thoughts he dreams of reuniting with his former partner, and secretly longs to return to his original dimension.

Wandering Roller

Wanders the space between dimensions after being separated from his comrades in the heat of battle, he was originally a Cybertron warrior. Transforms into a 6-wheeled armored vehicle. Roller's spirit was destroyed by absolute solitude while awaiting rescue by his sole comrade. Believing himself abandoned by his trusted comrade, he became ruled by despair and self-condemnation to the point where he eventually carried strong malicious energy. That energy was sensed by Unicron, who brought him to this world. His memory is patchy due to his long wanderings, but he still bears an incredible hatred for the symbol of the Cybertrons: Supreme Commander Convoy.