The Energon Pub

[Seibertron]

Cyclonus' colors and the various discrepancies make my head hurt. This is why "G1 cartoon" accuracy needs to get tossed out the window other than for general face sculpts and general body shape/silhouette but with the complexity and detailing that goes along with the licensed vehicles and the colors of the G1 toys for the most part. Starscream doesn't need light blue, Optimus Prime needs dark blue, Shockwave is a dark purple, Cyclonus is a bluish purple but lighter than Shockwave (and neither should ever be lavender), Unite Warriors Blast Off's cartoon accuracy worked out well (right???), etc. Basically G1 toy accurate colors. The cartoon was simplified versions of the toys ... I have never wanted simplified looking toys. If they want to do that, do what Masters of the Universe Classics is currently doing with the Filmation accurate toys, otherwise let's stay away from "cartoon" accuracy.

[Cobotron]

Amen to that, Brothertron!

[Sabrblade]

The cartoon was simplified versions of the toys ...

Except for the movie characters, which Cyclonus was one of, since Floro Dery made those designs first and then Hasbro/Takara turned those into toys. If anything, his original toy got the purple wrong since he was rarely ever as dark a purple as his toy's purple in the movie or cartoon.

Though, really, does it matter that much about this particular Cyclonus toy? I mean, this isn't his cartoon body, but an evolved form of it from after Masterforce. Should it matter that much if his new body is colored like or unlike his either cartoon body, his 1986 toy, or anything else?

And it's not like he hasn't been blue before. He was blue in his very first appearance in the movie, in various instances during cartoon, in many instances during The Headmasters, and even on this Japanese DVD cover art:



And I for one think he looks gorgeous in it.

[Cobotron]

Just to clarify. This...

This is why "G1 cartoon" accuracy needs to get tossed out the window other than for general face sculpts and general body shape/silhouette but with the complexity and detailing that goes along with the licensed vehicles and the colors of the G1 toys for the most part.

... is what I was amening.

I rather like the blue on this UW Cyclonus. The whole deco is sweet!
Also, personaly, it helps justify having two of the same figure.

[Wolfman Jake]

Sabrblade, I love the thorough work you do on figuring out where Hasbro and Takara deco choices come from. Think you have it in you to do one like your latest Cyclonus review for Galvatron and perhaps show us where Takara is coming from with their favorite colors for their releases of his toys? Most importantly, I think, would be anything from the original cartoon/movie media that matches the upcoming Transformers Legends release.

[Sabrblade]

Sabrblade, I love the thorough work you do on figuring out where Hasbro and Takara deco choices come from. Think you have it in you to do one like your latest Cyclonus review for Galvatron and perhaps show us where Takara is coming from with their favorite colors for their releases of his toys? Most importantly, I think, would be anything from the original cartoon/movie media that matches the upcoming Transformers Legends release.

I'll do you one quicker and easier for Galvatron: Look through this gallery for any cartoon pics of Galvatron in which his purple hued towards the lighter, rather than the darker, end of the spectrum.

[Wolfman Jake]

Sabrblade, I love the thorough work you do on figuring out where Hasbro and Takara deco choices come from. Think you have it in you to do one like your latest Cyclonus review for Galvatron and perhaps show us where Takara is coming from with their favorite colors for their releases of his toys? Most importantly, I think, would be anything from the original cartoon/movie media that matches the upcoming Transformers Legends release.

I'll do you one quicker and easier for Galvatron: Look through this gallery for any cartoon pics of Galvatron in which his purple hued towards the lighter, rather than the darker, end of the spectrum.

Wow. That's an embarrassment of riches in terms of Galvatron screen caps. There's definitely a TON of instances of a very light/pastel shade of purple or purple-ish blue for Galvatron. Even in the original movie, his hue changes from scene to scene. Funny how I never really noticed during any of the dozens of time I've watched the movie before. I think Unicron created Galvatron with some weird mood ring type of metal that changes the intensity of his purple depending on his current emotional state: either crazy-angry or angry-crazy, I guess.

[Hellscream9999]

Sabrblade, I love the thorough work you do on figuring out where Hasbro and Takara deco choices come from. Think you have it in you to do one like your latest Cyclonus review for Galvatron and perhaps show us where Takara is coming from with their favorite colors for their releases of his toys? Most importantly, I think, would be anything from the original cartoon/movie media that matches the upcoming Transformers Legends release.

I'll do you one quicker and easier for Galvatron: Look through this gallery for any cartoon pics of Galvatron in which his purple hued towards the lighter, rather than the darker, end of the spectrum.

Wow. That's an embarrassment of riches in terms of Galvatron screen caps. There's definitely a TON of instances of a very light/pastel shade of purple or purple-ish blue for Galvatron. Even in the original movie, his hue changes from scene to scene. Funny how I never really noticed during any of the dozens of time I've watched the movie before. I think Unicron created Galvatron with some weird mood ring type of metal that changes the intensity of his purple depending on his current emotional state: either crazy-angry or angry-crazy, I guess.

I always thought it was an admirable attempt at lighting, but maybe that's giving them too much credit

[Sowndwave76]

Sabrblade, I love the thorough work you do on figuring out where Hasbro and Takara deco choices come from. Think you have it in you to do one like your latest Cyclonus review for Galvatron and perhaps show us where Takara is coming from with their favorite colors for their releases of his toys? Most importantly, I think, would be anything from the original cartoon/movie media that matches the upcoming Transformers Legends release.

I'll do you one quicker and easier for Galvatron: Look through this gallery for any cartoon pics of Galvatron in which his purple hued towards the lighter, rather than the darker, end of the spectrum.

Wow. That's an embarrassment of riches in terms of Galvatron screen caps. There's definitely a TON of instances of a very light/pastel shade of purple or purple-ish blue for Galvatron. Even in the original movie, his hue changes from scene to scene. Funny how I never really noticed during any of the dozens of time I've watched the movie before. I think Unicron created Galvatron with some weird mood ring type of metal that changes the intensity of his purple depending on his current emotional state: either crazy-angry or angry-crazy, I guess.

I always thought it was an admirable attempt at lighting, but maybe that's giving them too much credit

I completely agree with this Hellscream... 100%. It's just logical that this is the case.

Having looked quite a bit now, I really wish I could be my hands on the UW version of Cyclonus without having to get that whole set.
I'm okay with Hasbro's, but the colors of the UW version are really really nice.

[Kurona]

Sabrblade, I love the thorough work you do on figuring out where Hasbro and Takara deco choices come from. Think you have it in you to do one like your latest Cyclonus review for Galvatron and perhaps show us where Takara is coming from with their favorite colors for their releases of his toys? Most importantly, I think, would be anything from the original cartoon/movie media that matches the upcoming Transformers Legends release.

I'll do you one quicker and easier for Galvatron: Look through this gallery for any cartoon pics of Galvatron in which his purple hued towards the lighter, rather than the darker, end of the spectrum.

Wow. That's an embarrassment of riches in terms of Galvatron screen caps. There's definitely a TON of instances of a very light/pastel shade of purple or purple-ish blue for Galvatron. Even in the original movie, his hue changes from scene to scene. Funny how I never really noticed during any of the dozens of time I've watched the movie before. I think Unicron created Galvatron with some weird mood ring type of metal that changes the intensity of his purple depending on his current emotional state: either crazy-angry or angry-crazy, I guess.

I always thought it was an admirable attempt at lighting, but maybe that's giving them too much credit

I completely agree with this Hellscream... 100%. It's just logical that this is the case.

Having looked quite a bit now, I really wish I could be my hands on the UW version of Cyclonus without having to get that whole set.
I'm okay with Hasbro's, but the colors of the UW version are really really nice.

"I really wish I could get _____ without getting the whole set" has been my motto for this entire line ;;

[Wolfman Jake]

Sabrblade, I love the thorough work you do on figuring out where Hasbro and Takara deco choices come from. Think you have it in you to do one like your latest Cyclonus review for Galvatron and perhaps show us where Takara is coming from with their favorite colors for their releases of his toys? Most importantly, I think, would be anything from the original cartoon/movie media that matches the upcoming Transformers Legends release.

I'll do you one quicker and easier for Galvatron: Look through this gallery for any cartoon pics of Galvatron in which his purple hued towards the lighter, rather than the darker, end of the spectrum.

Wow. That's an embarrassment of riches in terms of Galvatron screen caps. There's definitely a TON of instances of a very light/pastel shade of purple or purple-ish blue for Galvatron. Even in the original movie, his hue changes from scene to scene. Funny how I never really noticed during any of the dozens of time I've watched the movie before. I think Unicron created Galvatron with some weird mood ring type of metal that changes the intensity of his purple depending on his current emotional state: either crazy-angry or angry-crazy, I guess.

I always thought it was an admirable attempt at lighting, but maybe that's giving them too much credit

It's quite possibly an attempt at dynamic lighting, but the hues don't really match up in the different lighting environments. You don't go from periwinkle to eggplant purple just by dimming the lights.

[shajaki]

Transfest2016 strikes again, hitting us with a display of TakaraTomy Transformers Unite Warriors UW-07 Bruticus! Twitter users くろさび@chromless and 江東のマサ@MASABON2011 are at the event taking many pics, mainly showing off the new exclusive mold: Blast-Off who sports his proper shuttle alt mode. See those shots below, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com: home for the best Galleries and Conversation around!

[Wolfman Jake]

It's a shame Takara didn't whip up a couple of new guns for Onslaught and Bruticus. To keep their G1 silhouettes, you need to keep the guns attached to Onsalught's and Bruticus' backs. That leaves the team leader and the gestalt form without any firearms. I guess fisticuffs will have to suffice?

[Kurona]

It's a shame Takara didn't whip up a couple of new guns for Onslaught and Bruticus. To keep their G1 silhouettes, you need to keep the guns attached to Onsalught's and Bruticus' backs. That leaves the team leader and the gestalt form without any firearms. I guess fisticuffs will have to suffice?

To be fair, Bruticus' bios do specify he's one of the overall strongest transformers. Plus every time he fought in the cartoon he either used his fists, Vortex' blades and then there was the one time he used Shockwave.

[RiddlerJ]

His fists do have guns built into them so he doesn't need to remove the guns from his back. Onslaught is a different story. I had to give a 3rd party gun to him.

[Optimizzy]

Blast Off would be better if he had a darker brown in my opinion. Still looks a little odd to me. Good looking set on everyone else though.

[Wolfman Jake]

Blast Off would be better if he had a darker brown in my opinion. Still looks a little odd to me. Good looking set on everyone else though.

Agreed, though you do see some of the "proper" dark brown coloring peppered about his robot mode and alt mode, it's just that it's more of a highlight color instead of the main color, which is that light brown. If they had swapped those browns around, I think it would have worked out quite nicely, with light brown highlights to help break up the dark pallet of the original toy and show model a bit. C'est la vie.

[Sowndwave76]

Blast Off would be better if he had a darker brown in my opinion. Still looks a little odd to me. Good looking set on everyone else though.

Agreed, though you do see some of the "proper" dark brown coloring peppered about his robot mode and alt mode, it's just that it's more of a highlight color instead of the main color, which is that light brown. If they had swapped those browns around, I think it would have worked out quite nicely, with light brown highlights to help break up the dark pallet of the original toy and show model a bit. C'est la vie.

I'll second this... This lighter brown color is a bit surprising as well as a little disappointing.
While I don't really mind this color on the chest plate of Brut, on Blast-off it's a little much.
In terms of appearances, I also think Onslaught's blue is a little saturated; should be more of a slate blue.
But other than those couple issues, I think this set looks good. With the PE hands/feet it should be amazing.

[Mr Skram]

I might yet sell my hasbro Brut so I xan get the UW version.

[Sowndwave76]

I might yet sell my hasbro Brut so I xan get the UW version.

I don't blame you... I think this set is well worth the price.

[Kurona]

Talking of colours being off... I really wish Brawl was actually green.

[fenrir72]

Bruticus and Galvatron sitting on a tree..........

https://youtu.be/3eT464L1YRA

'nuff said!

[Sabrblade]

You know, all previous images of UW Blast Off made his brown look like copper, but the lighting in these pics makes it look downright orange.

[Hellscream9999]

You know, all previous images of UW Blast Off made his brown look like copper, but the lighting in these pics makes it look downright orange.

lol, called it 'orange-off', well, it looks like natural light, so, unless it's a painted prototype, he's gonna be orange

[Sowndwave76]

You know, all previous images of UW Blast Off made his brown look like copper, but the lighting in these pics makes it look downright orange.

lol, called it 'orange-off', well, it looks like natural light, so, unless it's a painted prototype, he's gonna be orange

Mr. Positivity!
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