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News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:00 pm

Despite my Tomy preference, the domestic Hasbro releases aren't that shabby. The colors and QC imho have improved plus the Vietnamese make has a few QC issues.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:23 am

The Takara Tomy Unite Warriors Superion box set, including the alternate decos of Silverbolt, Air Raid, Firefly, Skydive, and the Slingshot repaint (see the full Hasbro line-up in our galleries here), appears to be receiving an almost Masterpiece treatment: via Planet Iacon on Facebook, we have our first images of the collector coin included with the set. Check them out below!

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:36 am

Nice! I love me an MP-style coin.

by **Rated X** » Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:59 am

Its cool and all, but if it cuts the price ten bucks I could do without it.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:14 am

Va'al wrote:The Takara Tomy Unite Warriors Superion box set, including the alternate decos of Silverbolt, Air Raid, Firefly, Skydive, and the Slingshot repaint (see the full Hasbro line-up in our galleries here), appears to be receiving an almost Masterpiece treatment: via Planet Iacon on Facebook, we have our first images of the collector coin included with the set. Check them out below!

Released by Hasbro Asia or through Amazon jp?

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:22 am

Didn't realize that Japan did these coins...

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:28 am

That is an interesting development, I'll give you that.
Along with Masterpiece being printed on the packaging. :-?

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:21 am

Va'al wrote:That is an interesting development, I'll give you that.

But not unheard of. There's three other non-MP coins: DOTM(?)Jetwing Prime, Encore Fort Max, and Encore Devastator.

Va'al wrote:Along with Masterpiece being printed on the packaging.

I saw that too... tre bizarre no?

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:25 am

shajaki wrote:
Va'al wrote:That is an interesting development, I'll give you that.
But not unheard of. There's three other non-MP coins: DOTM(?)Jetwing Prime, Encore Fort Max, and Encore Devastator.

hmm... you're right Japan did make coins, completely forgot about Fort Max, but was it an Amazon.jp thing? I ordered mine from BBTS and it did not come with one.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:35 am

mooncake623 wrote:
shajaki wrote:
Va'al wrote:That is an interesting development, I'll give you that.
But not unheard of. There's three other non-MP coins: DOTM(?)Jetwing Prime, Encore Fort Max, and Encore Devastator.
hmm... you're right Japan did make coins, completely forgot about Fort Max, but was it an Amazon.jp thing? I ordered mine from BBTS and it did not come with one.

Who makes/releases them can be a crap-shoot, but its usually either an Amazon or Hasbro Asia thing.

And BBTS usually has speicific listing reflected with or without coin.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:16 pm

ummm, I ordered mine off amiami, it was already cheaper than any other retailer so if it doesn't come with the coin, I wont mind. But it would be a great surprise if it did.

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:22 pm

You know, with the revelation of this "Masterpiece" coin for Unite Warriors Superion, it makes me rethink that odd rumor Chuckdawg (?) passed along months ago that Takara's Titan Devastator would be sold as a Masterpiece figure. Maybe each of the UW releases will be getting a Masterpiece coin. However, I still don't see Devastator being sold as six individual robots when the rest of the line so far has stuck to the gift set scheme.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:28 pm

Wolfman Jake wrote:You know, with the revelation of this "Masterpiece" coin for Unite Warriors Superion, it makes me rethink that odd rumor Chuckdawg (?) passed along months ago that Takara's Titan Devastator would be sold as a Masterpiece figure. Maybe each of the UW releases will be getting a Masterpiece coin. However, I still don't see Devastator being sold as six individual robots when the rest of the line so far has stuck to the gift set scheme.

Haha! I thought of that too. To be honest, this superion is really closer to a portrayal of the G1 cartoon rather than an homage or update like a lot of the classics line was so maybe they see this as a masterpiece. Does this mean we wouldnt get MP combiners down the line then?

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:40 pm

william-james88 wrote:Haha! I thought of that too. To be honest, this superion is really closer to a portrayal of the G1 cartoon rather than an homage or update like a lot of the classics line was so maybe they see this as a masterpiece. Does this mean we wouldnt get MP combiners down the line then?

The issue with using the Unite Warriors molds as "Masterpiece" stand-ins for the combiners doesn't work in terms of scale, though. Superion will look a little silly next to Masterpiece Ultra Magnus at the very least. Takara has been trying hard to keep scale consistent with the Masterpiece line after rebooting with MP-10 Convoy. On the other paw, doing properly scaled and engineered combiners may be cost-prohibitive for retail, especially for a niche collector oriented sub line. Maybe Takara doesn't plan to do "real" MP combiners, so they figured United Warriors is "it", or nothing.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:51 pm

Wolfman Jake wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Haha! I thought of that too. To be honest, this superion is really closer to a portrayal of the G1 cartoon rather than an homage or update like a lot of the classics line was so maybe they see this as a masterpiece. Does this mean we wouldnt get MP combiners down the line then?

The issue with using the Unite Warriors molds as "Masterpiece" stand-ins for the combiners doesn't work in terms of scale, though. Superion will look a little silly next to Masterpiece Ultra Magnus at the very least. Takara has been trying hard to keep scale consistent with the Masterpiece line after rebooting with MP-10 Convoy. On the other paw, doing properly scaled and engineered combiners may be cost-prohibitive for retail, especially for a niche collector oriented sub line. Maybe Takara doesn't plan to do "real" MP combiners, so they figured United Warriors is "it", or nothing.

Second that. If you all recall during an interview with the MP UM team, one consideration was that it (costs)won't break the bank.

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:33 pm

I think it's reasonable to consider the coin apart from the toy.

The figures might be Generations style, but the coin might be 'Masterpiece'.

Perhaps such a coin is what led to the Devy MP rumor?

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:57 am

megatronus wrote:I think it's reasonable to consider the coin apart from the toy.

The figures might be Generations style, but the coin might be 'Masterpiece'.

Perhaps such a coin is what led to the Devy MP rumor?

I had actually thought of all the points above when I first saw the coin, but kinda dismissed it. But Megsy here? I think he hit the nail on the head. The "inside guy" saw a Devy coin labelled Masterpiece and ran running to the interwebs.

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:50 pm

william-james88 wrote:ummm, I ordered mine off amiami, it was already cheaper than any other retailer so if it doesn't come with the coin, I wont mind. But it would be a great surprise if it did.

Believe it or not I've seen quite a few MP coins on the secondary market for cheap. You could always buy the Superion one if it shows up.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:29 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:ummm, I ordered mine off amiami, it was already cheaper than any other retailer so if it doesn't come with the coin, I wont mind. But it would be a great surprise if it did.

Believe it or not I've seen quite a few MP coins on the secondary market for cheap. You could always buy the Superion one if it shows up.

Haha, yeah, I have seen those too (Skywarps for example). But I wouldnt pay for a coin, I dont collect them. It's more of a nice to have.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:18 pm

william-james88 wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:ummm, I ordered mine off amiami, it was already cheaper than any other retailer so if it doesn't come with the coin, I wont mind. But it would be a great surprise if it did.
Believe it or not I've seen quite a few MP coins on the secondary market for cheap. You could always buy the Superion one if it shows up.
Haha, yeah, I have seen those too (Skywarps for example). But I wouldnt pay for a coin, I dont collect them. It's more of a nice to have.

The collector-whore in my head wouldn't let me ignore those coins. And I've got every one now so why stop now? :DANCE:

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:20 pm

shajaki wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:ummm, I ordered mine off amiami, it was already cheaper than any other retailer so if it doesn't come with the coin, I wont mind. But it would be a great surprise if it did.
Believe it or not I've seen quite a few MP coins on the secondary market for cheap. You could always buy the Superion one if it shows up.
Haha, yeah, I have seen those too (Skywarps for example). But I wouldnt pay for a coin, I dont collect them. It's more of a nice to have.
The collector-whore in my head wouldn't let me ignore those coins. And I've got every one now so why stop now?

I only have wheeljack's so far and I didnt even realize I bought that version when I did. Dont know if you'll agree or find me nuts, but I preffer the holder ot the coin itself.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:23 pm

william-james88 wrote:I only have wheeljack's so far and I didnt even realize I bought that version when I did. Dont know if you'll agree or find me nuts, but I preffer the holder ot the coin itself.

The holders have as much attention to detail as the coins

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:30 pm

Yea... I bought the Star Saber coin on eBay yesterday for the sake of completion. Total collector whore.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:59 am

megatronus wrote:Yea... I bought the Star Saber coin on eBay yesterday for the sake of completion. Total collector whore.

......Hard core!

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:57 am

fenrir72 wrote:
megatronus wrote:Yea... I bought the Star Saber coin on eBay yesterday for the sake of completion. Total collector whore.
......Hard core!

There's really only two coins that are hard to get: Jetwing Prime (long time to surface but not expensive) and MP-08 Grimlock (which I didn't even know existed cause it came out with the first TT reissue, very rare now and cost me like 70 bucks :BOOM: