The Energon Pub

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Ah, my beloved technobots. Nosecone is a bit different than what I imagined, as is Strafe, but overall not bad. I will stick with the hasbro version but this is a very nice combiner for those who go takara.

Also, Anyone know where the best price for Grand Galvatron is?

[william-james88]

Ah, my beloved technobots. Nosecone is a bit different than what I imagined, as is Strafe, but overall not bad. I will stick with the hasbro version but this is a very nice combiner for those who go takara.

Also, Anyone know where the best price for Grand Galvatron is?

Best price would be tfsource. Unless you get a Japanese company tenso to act as a middleman between you and ttmall. But that's a little headache you might want to avoid. slap ttmall might be sold out.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Ah, my beloved technobots. Nosecone is a bit different than what I imagined, as is Strafe, but overall not bad. I will stick with the hasbro version but this is a very nice combiner for those who go takara.

Also, Anyone know where the best price for Grand Galvatron is?

Best price would be tfsource. Unless you get a Japanese company tenso to act as a middleman between you and ttmall. But that's a little headache you might want to avoid. slap ttmall might be sold out.

Gah! Still $160. I'd hoped that after some time that price would drop a bit. Darn I want him, just not enough money

[Jelze Bunnycat]

So, in a nutshell:

Hasbro
Scattershot: Silverbolt retool
Afterburner: Groove retool
Strafe: Air Raid Retool
Lightspeed: Streetwise redeco, possibly new head
Nosecone: Brawl retool

Comes with 6th member "Scrounge" and new dedicated hand and foot parts.

TakaraTomy
Scattershot: Silverbolt retool
Afterburner: Groove retool
Strafe: Blast Off retool
Lightspeed: Wheeljack redeco with new head
Nosecone: Rook retool

Only 5 members, retools are more extensive, new HFG parts.

Oddly, the Hasbro version rings more to me because it doesn't try to hide it's a all-reuse combiner.

[Broadside1992]

I agreed with that Takara did a better job with the Silverbolt Remold. I do like that Takara went the extra mile with most of the figures as well. However. Oh and I love that gun. I do not like the feet though and I think the Afterburner mold is way to hollow. Right now it's more likely that I'll get the Hasbro version and that's mostly because of the price and the feet. I'm just worried that it's gonna be a stability problem.

[william-james88]

Gah! Still $160. I'd hoped that after some time that price would drop a bit. Darn I want him, just not enough money

Prices can't drop for him, he's not a wide japan release. And he just came out.

[william-james88]

So, in a nutshell:

Hasbro
Scattershot: Silverbolt retool
Afterburner: Groove retool
Strafe: Air Raid Retool
Lightspeed: Streetwise redeco, possibly new head
Nosecone: Brawl retool

Comes with 6th member "Scrounge" and new dedicated hand and foot parts.

TakaraTomy
Scattershot: Silverbolt retool
Afterburner: Groove retool
Strafe: Blast Off retool
Lightspeed: Wheeljack redeco with new head
Nosecone: Rook retool

Only 5 members, retools are more extensive, new HFG parts.

Oddly, the Hasbro version rings more to me because it doesn't try to hide it's a all-reuse combiner.

How do you know Lightspeed will have a new head and not the others?

And Takara isnt hiding anything, they are giving the most accurate depiction possible. You discounted the fact that Takara's scattershot is a heavier retool than Hasbro's and has a completely new combiner head. That goes a long way and makes the upcoming upgrade kit useless.

[Powered Convoy]

Gah! Still $160. I'd hoped that after some time that price would drop a bit. Darn I want him, just not enough money

Prices can't drop for him, he's not a wide japan release. And he just came out.

Grand Galvatron isn't yet out. I believe he comes out at the end of April.

Randy

[Cyberpath]

昨日のニコ生では判別し辛かったかもしれませんが、UW版コンピューティコンのヘッドです♪　鼻と口があるゴーグルアイタイプで、アニメデザインをベースにアレンジされています！

[william-james88]

Gah! Still $160. I'd hoped that after some time that price would drop a bit. Darn I want him, just not enough money

Prices can't drop for him, he's not a wide japan release. And he just came out.

Grand Galvatron isn't yet out. I believe he comes out at the end of April.

Randy

Thanks Randy, well that sue explains why there isnt any price drop And Cyberpath, I am gonna get that pic now.

[mblase75]

Lightspeed: Wheeljack redeco with new head

Lightspeed has at least some additional retooling -- or maybe that's just the windshield, now that I compare them.





Yeah, it's definitely the windshield.

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[william-james88]

Hisashi Yuki, Takara Unite Warriors head designer (aren't puns fun), has posted the new cominer head exclusive to Takara's version of Computron. He states in his post that they used the cartoon design as a basis and he wanted to showcase it in a post in case this significant change was missed in yesterday's reveal.

[william-james88]

Lightspeed: Wheeljack redeco with new head

Lightspeed has at least some additional retooling -- or maybe that's just the windshield, now that I compare them.

I think its just the windshield.

[Powered Convoy]

Lightspeed: Wheeljack redeco with new head

Lightspeed has at least some additional retooling -- or maybe that's just the windshield, now that I compare them.

I think its just the windshield.

I did some comparing yesterday and everything on Lightspeed looked like it was the same on Wheeljack. Obviously he has a new gun and hopefully a new Lightspeed head (and not whatever the alternate head on the Wheeljack body is as it's not likely originally Lightspeed, even though we haven't seen it, because Hasbro passed using it as Lightspeed in favor of what's likely a straight redeco of Streetwise).

This is not to say that there isn't a possibility of a new windshield (as he could use one), but I don't think we can tell based on what we've seen thus far.

Randy

[Sigma Magnus]

Hisashi Yuki, Takara Unite Warriors head designer (aren't puns fun), has posted the new cominer head exclusive to Takara's version of Computron. He states in his post that they used the cartoon design as a basis and he wanted to showcase it in a post in case this significant change was missed in yesterday's reveal.

Wow, guess Hasbro really got ahead of themselves.


...I had to.

[shajaki]

(aren't puns fun)

[Mr_Autobot411]

so basically hasbro is giving us the crappy superion head, while takara gets a whole new remolded head etc

so basically if u get the hasbro version it sucks, but u want the takara fork out ur left nut to get him. guess im passing

[Burn]

so basically hasbro is giving us the crappy superion head, while takara gets a whole new remolded head etc

so basically if u get the hasbro version it sucks, but u want the takara fork out ur left nut to get him. guess im passing

Worse, I want Scrounge and the new feet and hands, but I have to stick with UW because that's the line I've gotten my combiners through.

[william-james88]

so basically hasbro is giving us the crappy superion head, while takara gets a whole new remolded head etc

so basically if u get the hasbro version it sucks, but u want the takara fork out ur left nut to get him. guess im passing

Is your left nut only 35$? Thats the price difference between the two, and its only because one is imported. They cost the same price at their corresponding local retail (about 100$ US).

Also Hasbro gives you 2 more toys plus those hands and feet everyone wanted. Hasbro isnt cheapenign us out, just offering us something different.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Yeah, the 2 are very different and offer very different options. One really can't be considered best considering there are very few similarities and they try to fulfill 2 very different things

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Yeah, the 2 are very different and offer very different options. One really can't be considered best considering there are very few similarities and they try to fulfill 2 very different things

Almost makes one want to get both and mix-and-match (and sell off the duds): UW Computicon's retooling + CW Computron's hands and feet + Scrounge. Nosecone, Lightspeed and Strafe are iffy, we'll have to wait and see on which is superior.

[steals_your_goats]

My head cannon for these two is Takaras is actually Computron and in an effort to combat the decepticon forces Wheeljack tried cloning Computron but it didn't fully turn out properly so Betatron was formed.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Yeah, the 2 are very different and offer very different options. One really can't be considered best considering there are very few similarities and they try to fulfill 2 very different things

Almost makes one want to get both and mix-and-match (and sell off the duds): UW Computicon's retooling + CW Computron's hands and feet + Scrounge. Nosecone, Lightspeed and Strafe are iffy, we'll have to wait and see on which is superior.

Mind you we haven't seen anything regarding individuals and how they actually look painted up in full detail by themselves and how they transform and look, but I think Hasbro won with Strafe using the Air Raid mold. I love that mold and think it works better for Strafe. Now Nosecone may go to takara due to the better mold and retooling, but it depends on the arms and how obvious they are. Hasbro chose the superior mold for Lightspeed in terms of engineering but takara chose the better looking option. So yep, tossup

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Mind you we haven't seen anything regarding individuals and how they actually look painted up in full detail by themselves and how they transform and look, but I think Hasbro won with Strafe using the Air Raid mold. I love that mold and think it works better for Strafe. Now Nosecone may go to takara due to the better mold and retooling, but it depends on the arms and how obvious they are. Hasbro chose the superior mold for Lightspeed in terms of engineering but takara chose the better looking option. So yep, tossup

Well, G1 Lightspeed and CW Breakdown/Wheeljack both had rather long torsos, so... which fits better?

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Mind you we haven't seen anything regarding individuals and how they actually look painted up in full detail by themselves and how they transform and look, but I think Hasbro won with Strafe using the Air Raid mold. I love that mold and think it works better for Strafe. Now Nosecone may go to takara due to the better mold and retooling, but it depends on the arms and how obvious they are. Hasbro chose the superior mold for Lightspeed in terms of engineering but takara chose the better looking option. So yep, tossup

Well, G1 Lightspeed and CW Breakdown/Wheeljack both had rather long torsos, so... which fits better?

I was more thinking in terms of mold design and how good the actual mold is. The breakdown mold to me is the weakest car mold we got, even if there were some good looking figures that did come from it