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Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Sat Dec 26, 2015 8:38 pm

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I just got my shipment too! UW-3 Defensor, UW-04 Devastator, and CW Bruticus!

I'm glad I invested in the Unite Warriors version of Defensor. Groove is terrific. He's ridiculously big compared to the other Protectobots in vehicle mode, but looks great as part of Defensor for that classic G1 look. :) I found out something quite by accident when trying to show my nephew how to transform Hot Spot via FaceTime. HotSpot, and indeed all of the CW/UW combiner figures, does not have a screw holding the front and back halves of his head together. They just hold with friction. I neglected to tuck Hot Spot's head away when bringing up the shoulders and it popped off into two pieces. I was surprised (and delighted) to find no damage to the head. It just snaps back together.

Bruticus is nice, but I'm now that much more excited to see what Takara can do in terms of a space shuttle mold for Blast Off. If they come through with that, I'll still probably hang on to jet Blast Off and consider him another "second stringer" along with Alpha Bravo, Off Road, and Rook. Maybe I'll call him "Take Off"...or "Brown Note."

I've not had time yet to get to Devastator. I'm hoping to do that later tonight.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Sat Dec 26, 2015 8:48 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:Has anyone experienced any stress marks in UW-02 fists? the hole that holds Menasor's sword, has one already.


I've got them in cw dead end and neck brace's hand/foot things; I don't think they were tooled with properly measured anything. Their fists don't hold anything but the mufflers, the cw fist they come with doesn't fit any of their ports, and the fist itself can't hold anything, I forced it to hold the sword and stress marks appeared along the thumb joint area; streetwise has less, but similar problems, fortunately, prowl has fixed all of those issue (I believe, I can double check once I get home)


So it IS a common issue! Them's the breaks I guess (barely 4 months since his delivery)
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sat Dec 26, 2015 9:50 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:neck brace
Seen this several times now. It's "Break-Neck" (or in Takara's toy's case, "Wildrider").


Wait so is Takaratomy's Quickslinger Slingshot? Interesting how they can get the trademark for it there.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:09 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:neck brace
Seen this several times now. It's "Break-Neck" (or in Takara's toy's case, "Wildrider").


Wait so is Takaratomy's Quickslinger Slingshot? Interesting how they can get the trademark for it there.


Different location, different availability. Plus, there's something else to consider: the script. I don't know how Japanese trademark laws work, but I do know they claim in native script (kanji and kana) but the latin script is optional, for Romanisation purposes. It's possible the English names aren't trademarked at all.

And sorry for being a spelling nazi, but it's "Brake-Neck", as in a parking brake. ;)
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Dec 26, 2015 11:56 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:neck brace
Seen this several times now. It's "Break-Neck" (or in Takara's toy's case, "Wildrider").


Wait so is Takaratomy's Quickslinger Slingshot? Interesting how they can get the trademark for it there.


Different location, different availability. Plus, there's something else to consider: the script. I don't know how Japanese trademark laws work, but I do know they claim in native script (kanji and kana) but the latin script is optional, for Romanisation purposes. It's possible the English names aren't trademarked at all.

And sorry for being a spelling nazi, but it's "Brake-Neck", as in a parking brake. ;)
Yeah, "Brake-Neck", sorry. :oops:

And to answer the Quickslinger question, Takara's Quickslinger is just "Sling" (Slingshot's Japanese name).
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:23 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:neck brace
Seen this several times now. It's "Break-Neck" (or in Takara's toy's case, "Wildrider").


Wait so is Takaratomy's Quickslinger Slingshot? Interesting how they can get the trademark for it there.


Different location, different availability. Plus, there's something else to consider: the script. I don't know how Japanese trademark laws work, but I do know they claim in native script (kanji and kana) but the latin script is optional, for Romanisation purposes. It's possible the English names aren't trademarked at all.

And sorry for being a spelling nazi, but it's "Brake-Neck", as in a parking brake. ;)


I dunno, I thought it was funny, as it also happens to fall in line with his rampant driving ;)
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:25 am

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Has anyone experienced any stress marks in UW-02 fists? the hole that holds Menasor's sword, has one already.

I've got them in cw dead end and neck brace's hand/foot things; I don't think they were tooled with properly measured anything. Their fists don't hold anything but the mufflers, the cw fist they come with doesn't fit any of their ports, and the fist itself can't hold anything, I forced it to hold the sword and stress marks appeared along the thumb joint area; streetwise has less, but similar problems, fortunately, prowl has fixed all of those issue (I believe, I can double check once I get home)


So it IS a common issue! Them's the breaks I guess (barely 4 months since his delivery)


Yep, someone f-ed up big time on something in that mold, thankfully it's been fixed more-or-less - especially for how many time's it's been/will be used #-o
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:29 am

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Been playing with the Constructicons a bit since I got home. These guys are frikkin huge!

I don't understand some think they don't scale well with the rest of the line. If most construction vehicles are the same size as, say, a semi truck, then it would seem as though the scale is there. Just my two cents on an age old, never ending discussion.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:58 am

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Nemesis Maximo wrote:Been playing with the Constructicons a bit since I got home. These guys are frikkin huge!

I don't understand some think they don't scale well with the rest of the line. If most construction vehicles are the same size as, say, a semi truck, then it would seem as though the scale is there. Just my two cents on an age old, never ending discussion.


No, you're pretty much on point with that sentiment ;)^
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:47 am

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Nemesis Maximo wrote:Been playing with the Constructicons a bit since I got home. These guys are frikkin huge!

I don't understand some think they don't scale well with the rest of the line. If most construction vehicles are the same size as, say, a semi truck, then it would seem as though the scale is there. Just my two cents on an age old, never ending discussion.


No, you're pretty much on point with that sentiment ;)^


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1. Don't know what they're talking about

2. Got stuck with the 3rd party not Devastar and can no longer purchase the officiial one

3. Got no cash to drop on it thanks to issue 2

4. Issue 1,2 and 3
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby King Kuuga » Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:17 am

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Been playing with the Constructicons a bit since I got home. These guys are frikkin huge!

I don't understand some think they don't scale well with the rest of the line. If most construction vehicles are the same size as, say, a semi truck, then it would seem as though the scale is there. Just my two cents on an age old, never ending discussion.


No, you're pretty much on point with that sentiment ;)^


Those who bellyache either:

1. Don't know what they're talking about

2. Got stuck with the 3rd party not Devastar and can no longer purchase the officiial one

3. Got no cash to drop on it thanks to issue 2

4. Issue 1,2 and 3

Or 5, they prefer the fiction scale where the combiners are all about the same size, despite the logical size disparity of their components. Look, we all know there's no winning with TF scale, let's just let everybody have what works for them.

Speaking of which, I've decided I'm going to go ahead and get myself a UW Devastar next paycheck. All the hours I've put in at the movie theater during Star Wars madness should translate to a nice fat sum, so he'll be my belated Christmas gift to myself. I don't disparage those who prefer the Hasbro version, for price or ease of purchase or whatever. It's a perfectly good toy. But I like to fiddle with my guys, and the Takara version promises the best quality and fiddliness for the price.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:18 am

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Okay, so Devastator is big. Like, obscene. I mean, in a good way, and I LOVE it, but it's definitely obscene.

I was worried about the color; a lot of the Takara stock photos depicted that yellowish green, and most of you know how I feel about the color yellow. I am indescribably relieved to look across my room and see a tasteful, stylish, non-fluorescent, limey neon green.

In fact, the only thing I don't like about him is his hands. Mixmaster's leg mode (including the foot) is even growing on me. And I can live without ball joints on necks. But his hands are so...basic. When a Unicron figure came out 15 years ago and still holds up against modern toy making standards, we should have fully articulated fingers on a toy this size.

But that's my only complaint.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Sun Dec 27, 2015 3:16 am

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Sabrblade wrote:And to answer the Quickslinger question, Takara's Quickslinger is just "Sling" (Slingshot's Japanese name).


I don't have the box anymore to double check, but I could swear the Romanization on the Unite Warriors Superion box has the "Western" names for all members, including Slingshot. The Japanese script, if I recall, says simply "Sling," as you would guess. That's pretty much the norm for Unite Warriors (and Takara Generations/Legends) so far, Japanese name in Japanese script, English/Western name in English script.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Okay, so Devastator is big. Like, obscene. I mean, in a good way, and I LOVE it, but it's definitely obscene.

I was worried about the color; a lot of the Takara stock photos depicted that yellowish green, and most of you know how I feel about the color yellow. I am indescribably relieved to look across my room and see a tasteful, stylish, non-fluorescent, limey neon green.

In fact, the only thing I don't like about him is his hands. Mixmaster's leg mode (including the foot) is even growing on me. And I can live without ball joints on necks. But his hands are so...basic. When a Unicron figure came out 15 years ago and still holds up against modern toy making standards, we should have fully articulated fingers on a toy this size.

But that's my only complaint.


He's big, he's green, and he's MEAN. I love him to pieces. The green is spot on. It kind of "glows" a bit in low light, believe it or not.

Everything about the gestalt transformation is fun, and everything fits together very solidly and securely once you figure out how to do it right. There are TONS of slots and tabs to fit to each other, creating a tremendous amount a stability for a modular figure of this size. Kudos to the Takara designers!

The Constructicons look fantastic together as a group in robot mode too. The stand-outs for me are Scrapper, Mixmaster, and Hook. Scavanger is pretty good, Bonecrusher is okay, hindered only by his G1 accuracy which creates a very bland color layout for him. Long Haul got the shortest end of the stick. If they could have given him more substantial arms, I could forgive the extra bulkiness, but he does look pretty silly as is. I put him in the very back for group shots and places the rest of the crew around him to hide his derpy proportions.

As for Devastator's hands, I have a theory. Hasbro commissioned Takara to create this Titan Class Devastator, as we all know by now. They probably had a target parts goal from the start, and losing individually articulated fingers is a great way to get the numbers down from the drawing board. It wasn't enough, of course, and Takara had to simplify a lot of arm joints before Hasbro was happy. For their own release, they rolled back the revisions, but probably didn't newly engineer anything. Thus, something that might have always been a compromise from the get go wouldn't get "upgraded," as there was no superior version planned before.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:14 am

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Been playing with the Constructicons a bit since I got home. These guys are frikkin huge!

I don't understand some think they don't scale well with the rest of the line. If most construction vehicles are the same size as, say, a semi truck, then it would seem as though the scale is there. Just my two cents on an age old, never ending discussion.


No, you're pretty much on point with that sentiment ;)^


Those who bellyache either:

1. Don't know what they're talking about

2. Got stuck with the 3rd party not Devastar and can no longer purchase the officiial one

3. Got no cash to drop on it thanks to issue 2

4. Issue 1,2 and 3

Or 5, they prefer the fiction scale where the combiners are all about the same size, despite the logical size disparity of their components. Look, we all know there's no winning with TF scale, let's just let everybody have what works for them.

Speaking of which, I've decided I'm going to go ahead and get myself a UW Devastar next paycheck. All the hours I've put in at the movie theater during Star Wars madness should translate to a nice fat sum, so he'll be my belated Christmas gift to myself. I don't disparage those who prefer the Hasbro version, for price or ease of purchase or whatever. It's a perfectly good toy. But I like to fiddle with my guys, and the Takara version promises the best quality and fiddliness for the price.


Good for you too. Go get him tiger! Squeeze every moment and remenisce like you're a kid again (Mine hasn't arrived yet :( )

I too detest disparaging the preferences of others but its the others who disparages that makes me want to disparage them 8-}

It's kind of like going to a Star Trek movie and yelling "May the Force be with You". Don't like UW/CW Devs then don't go to the thread or even take a furtive glance on him.

Just as all "man made products" aren't perfect, so is Devs and the rest. We can call attention to it in a constructive manner but some are simply trolling the others who are enjoying the moment.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Shumi Nagaremono » Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:44 am

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So, I've had Unite Warriors Devastator standing around my entertainment center since it arrived in the mail. I keep shooting it these sideways looks, because I can't believe it's real. It's like everything I EVER wanted in a Transformers combiner just standing there, looking at me.
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I finally got to open Devastator and I knew he was going to be big, but not that big. I could of just got the Hasbro version and I would of been completely happy with it, but the extra Articulation, weapons and all the minor tweaks to the Constructicons just make this set so worth it.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 11:28 am

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munkimus prime wrote:I finally got to open Devastator and I knew he was going to be big, but not that big. I could of just got the Hasbro version and I would of been completely happy with it, but the extra Articulation, weapons and all the minor tweaks to the Constructicons just make this set so worth it.


You're killing me guys........ :-( ;)
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:40 pm

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I don't get it fen. You're the closest one of us to the source, and you still haven't received yours yet? Somebody throw fenrir a bone... or a Bonecrusher! :P

fenrir, will you please video your face melting when you get him for us all to see? :-P
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby munkimus prime » Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:05 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:
munkimus prime wrote:I finally got to open Devastator and I knew he was going to be big, but not that big. I could of just got the Hasbro version and I would of been completely happy with it, but the extra Articulation, weapons and all the minor tweaks to the Constructicons just make this set so worth it.


You're killing me guys........ :-( ;)

I'm Sorry I didn't mean to rub it in. Well maybe a little bit. ;)
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Postby william-james88 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:14 pm

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Cobotron wrote:I don't get it fen. You're the closest one of us to the source, and you still haven't received yours yet? Somebody throw fenrir a bone... or a Bonecrusher! :P

fenrir, will you please video your face melting when you get him for us all to see? :-P


I just dont want to see the video Nemesis Maximo might send us :lol:
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:38 pm

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Cobotron wrote:I don't get it fen. You're the closest one of us to the source, and you still haven't received yours yet? Somebody throw fenrir a bone... or a Bonecrusher! :P

fenrir, will you please video your face melting when you get him for us all to see? :-P



That what hurts the most kimosabe! :( 7 days delay in Tokyo :BOOM: (I paid sal parcel which usually moves the fastest)

Already have Defensor but that of course was courtesy of RK (HK)

Face melting ala Raiders of the Lost Ark......I already have a face that looks like Igor's :lol: nothing to melt 8-}
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:41 pm

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munkimus prime wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
munkimus prime wrote:I finally got to open Devastator and I knew he was going to be big, but not that big. I could of just got the Hasbro version and I would of been completely happy with it, but the extra Articulation, weapons and all the minor tweaks to the Constructicons just make this set so worth it.


You're killing me guys........ :-( ;)

I'm Sorry I didn't mean to rub it in. Well maybe a little bit. ;)


My "Bones" are already crushed :lol:
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Starsaber468 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:18 pm

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Does anyone find it very funny how people just say takara tomy making blast off a new mold with a shuttle alt mode isn't going to happen? Anyway I would love to see a UW Liokaiser but with the Sky lynx mold yeah I supsect we will be getting a purple griffin before we get a Liokaiser figure. But for primus please! I would love to see a Battle Gaia made as well as the Howling commandings (Car Robot Baldigus/RID Ruination )
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:24 pm

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Starsaber468 wrote:Does anyone find it very funny how people just say takara tomy making blast off a new mold with a shuttle alt mode isn't going to happen?


Who is saying that? The general consensus seems to be that Takara will do a new shuttle mode for Blast Off for their eventual Unite Warriors Bruticus set. They haven't even announced the set itself yet, but they've put together a few teasers and said a few things that are certainly in line with the expectation of a G1 shuttle version of Blast Off rather than Hasbro's repaint of Slingshot.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Shumi Nagaremono » Sun Dec 27, 2015 11:54 pm

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TakaraTomy's been surprisingly reserved with their repaints these last few years. Skipping ones that would seem to be quick and easy cash grabs. Aside from repainting just about every Optimus Prime toy black (as is tradition), they've seemingly left a bunch of money on the table.

They didn't repaint Fort Max as Grand Max (or Brave Max). They didn't squeeze a Blaster out of the Twincast reissue. They haven't announced G2 repaints of any of the UW figures. No yellow/orange Devastator. No Guard City. No G2 Menasor. No Ultra Magnus as Powered Convoy.
Even as exclusives.

Not that I mind, really, just kind of strange.

Then again, Generations/Unite Warriors almost seems like an afterthought to TakTom. Visit any retailers here in Japan and you'll see a bunch of Adventure figures, a couple of Masterpiece (maybe), a ton of those Q Transformers guys. But little to nothing in the way of UW/Gen. Heck, I'm not sure about recent releases, but the biggest toy store in town only ordered *four* of UW Superion.
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