The Energon Pub

[Hellscream9999]

Yeah Hasbro is so garbage right now with CW. This looks much better in fact it looks more expensive too.

Despite the fact that only Takara Bruticus is better then Hasbro.


Besides that Hasbro has been about the same we also wound't have got new characters from Takara at least Hasbro is trying to move on from the same old G1 characters you have seen a thousand times.

Yeah, hasbro's combiners have been far nicer looking overall than most of TT's, not buying that statement at all

[Deadput]

Yeah, hasbro's combiners have been far nicer looking overall than most of TT's, not buying that statement at all

I'm just sick of all the praise Takara gets being treated like the savior of Transformers while Hasbro is called a greedy and lazy company when all Takara does is give their toys fancy paint or have a few exclusives.


Might as well shut down Hasbro and make everything Takara how about they run everything so everyone is happy not like anyone is going to miss Hasbro.

[Deadput]

I am really not understanding what you guys are saying. A "comma" or two could help here

I don't get comments like this how does a single dot on the screen help.


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Does that look like it would magically make my words any easier to read?


The reason I space my lines is so that they are easy to read.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

If I may interject...

In the whole Hasbro vs. TakaraTomy debate, it's kinda like comparing apples and oranges. Hasbro's figures excel in overall more pleasing decos and new characters, while TakaraTomy's advantage is in new molds for the characters that were put aside and cartoon-accurate deco.

Neither viewpoint is superior to the other IMO.

[Evil Eye]

I am really not understanding what you guys are saying. A "comma" or two could help here

I don't get comments like this how does a single dot on the screen help.


,



Does that look like it would magically make my words any easier to read?

Actually, yes it would. Did you do literacy at school?

The reason I space my lines is so that they are easy to read.

I tell you what would make your lines a lot easier to read- if you typed like a normal person instead of putting

linebreaks

between

every

single

sentence.

It's really annoying and unsightly.

[Sabrblade]

If I may join in, Hasbro Blast Off is the only Hasbro Combaticon I have bought.

[Deadput]

Actually, yes it would. Did you do literacy at school?


I tell you what would make your lines a lot easier to read- if you typed like a normal person instead of putting

linebreaks

between

every

single

sentence.

It's really annoying and unsightly.

They haven't taught me jack since I was like Grade 4 no one bothered to tell me how to write I taught myself how too If you think my typing is bad It's at least readable unlike my writing also being mentally handicapped does a number on you as well but I'm not going to be talking about that.



I'm not changing how I have been typing my whole life anytime soon and at leaser I'm not spacing them out after every couple lines.

[bvzxa]

Lots of salty broke people on the post.

Hasbro is full of s#!t.

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I liked Alpha Bravo but it was forced down my throat along with Off-Road. Cool substitutions but not what I was looking for

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Takara, this time around has been better. Go to any review and comparison of CW Superion vs. UW Superion and see who is the winner. Even for the price you win with Unite Warriors because the aftermarket price for Quickslinger and Brake-Neck are ridiculous. Lousy timing release and the figures got snatched up. So obviously the substitution characters were not as popular I guess. But don't take my word for it, watch a review and then look at your Hasbro versions and shut up.

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UW Hot Spot fixes the QC issues from CW Hot Spot and you get Groove. Mind you you may not get Groove in the USA because UW-03 is a TakaraTomy mall exclusive.

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Lets not compare Hasbro/SDCC Devy vs. Takara Devy...because again you'll lose that argument. Face it CW is 3/4 a line. It started out good and then tread down a miserable path of repaint hell.

So like it or not, the paints are better, and yes I owned both version except Defensor. I went and bought UW-03 instead. I sold all my CW toys so I have proof I own both at the same time. And this time Takara wins. Go back to your regularly scheduled Hasbro praise thread and let us have our Blast-Off as a space shuttle.

[ZeroWolf]

As previously said, comparing hasbro and Takara is a fool's errand. They are both drastically different in terms of how they operate, their reach, their corporate structure and their competition. Takara's tfs face stiff competition in Japan, the land of transforming mechas, so it's no wonder why their products come out the way they do.

There is no fact other then that we, the consumer is the true winner here. Depending on your collection style, you'll have different prefences and wants, so either Takara or hasbro (or both if you want to put powerglide and alpha bravo in a g1 toon accurate superion instead of slingshot). So you may feel like one has the advantage over the other but it's far from fact as each to their own.

Take me for example, I think the unite warriors are quite nice but I'm more than happy with the hasbro ones and I appreciate that they are doing new things with the characters. This is also my reasoning why I love IDW, Autobot Megatron? Sign me up!

So for me, hasbro has beat Takara.

Also About Deluxe Groove, The Deco Is probably a exclusive, meaning all Hasbro have to do is slap A toy accurate colour scheme (or something close to it) and they are good to go.

With Takara and Hasbro, it's best to just see them as shades of grey.

[bvzxa]

As previously said, comparing hasbro and Takara is a fool's errand. They are both drastically different in terms of how they operate, their reach, their corporate structure and their competition. Takara's tfs face stiff competition in Japan, the land of transforming mechas, so it's no wonder why their products come out the way they do.

There is no fact other then that we, the consumer is the true winner here. Depending on your collection style, you'll have different prefences and wants, so either Takara or hasbro (or both if you want to put powerglide and alpha bravo in a g1 toon accurate superion instead of slingshot). So you may feel like one has the advantage over the other but it's far from fact as each to their own.

Take me for example, I think the unite warriors are quite nice but I'm more than happy with the hasbro ones and I appreciate that they are doing new things with the characters. This is also my reasoning why I love IDW, Autobot Megatron? Sign me up!

So for me, hasbro has beat Takara.

Also About Deluxe Groove, The Deco Is probably a exclusive, meaning all Hasbro have to do is slap A toy accurate colour scheme (or something close to it) and they are good to go.

With Takara and Hasbro, it's best to just see them as shades of grey.

Do you own any UW figures?

[Hellscream9999]

Lots of salty broke people on the post.

Hasbro is full of s#!t.

(Space)

I liked Alpha Bravo but it was forced down my throat along with Off-Road. Cool substitutions but not what I was looking for

(space)

Takara, this time around has been better. Go to any review and comparison of CW Superion vs. UW Superion and see who is the winner. Even for the price you win with Unite Warriors because the aftermarket price for Quickslinger and Brake-Neck are ridiculous. Lousy timing release and the figures got snatched up. So obviously the substitution characters were not as popular I guess. But don't take my word for it, watch a review and then look at your Hasbro versions and shut up.

(Space)

UW Hot Spot fixes the QC issues from CW Hot Spot and you get Groove. Mind you you may not get Groove in the USA because UW-03 is a TakaraTomy mall exclusive.

(Space)

Lets not compare Hasbro/SDCC Devy vs. Takara Devy...because again you'll lose that argument. Face it CW is 3/4 a line. It started out good and then tread down a miserable path of repaint hell.

So like it or not, the paints are better, and yes I owned both version except Defensor. I went and bought UW-03 instead. I sold all my CW toys so I have proof I own both at the same time. And this time Takara wins. Go back to your regularly scheduled Hasbro praise thread and let us have our Blast-Off as a space shuttle.

Sorry, no way is this accurate in my books, UW menasor, defensor and super prime all look terrible compared to hasbro's, and I don't need a deluxe sized motorcycle to go with TT's crappy, unpainted defensor

Nobody 'forced' you to buy a/b and offroad, they're 'scramble' city figures for a reason, the only thing holding you back from mixing them up was your nostalgia

I too won't argue the devs thing, I like that people that wanted a devastator could gets hasbro's for a good price through the various deals.

[ZeroWolf]

As previously said, comparing hasbro and Takara is a fool's errand. They are both drastically different in terms of how they operate, their reach, their corporate structure and their competition. Takara's tfs face stiff competition in Japan, the land of transforming mechas, so it's no wonder why their products come out the way they do.

There is no fact other then that we, the consumer is the true winner here. Depending on your collection style, you'll have different prefences and wants, so either Takara or hasbro (or both if you want to put powerglide and alpha bravo in a g1 toon accurate superion instead of slingshot). So you may feel like one has the advantage over the other but it's far from fact as each to their own.

Take me for example, I think the unite warriors are quite nice but I'm more than happy with the hasbro ones and I appreciate that they are doing new things with the characters. This is also my reasoning why I love IDW, Autobot Megatron? Sign me up!

So for me, hasbro has beat Takara.

Also About Deluxe Groove, The Deco Is probably a exclusive, meaning all Hasbro have to do is slap A toy accurate colour scheme (or something close to it) and they are good to go.

With Takara and Hasbro, it's best to just see them as shades of grey.

Do you own any UW figures?

No, partly because it's easier for me to go hasbro (I love being able to get my goods right there and then) and partly because aside from looking nice, in a world of prioritising, they was no way I could justify them to my better half.

In an ideal world I would have them all, hasbro and Takara alike.

Is this the part where you come in and say though that my opinion doesn't matter because I don't own the figures?

[bvzxa]

Lots of salty broke people on the post.

Hasbro is full of s#!t.

(Space)

I liked Alpha Bravo but it was forced down my throat along with Off-Road. Cool substitutions but not what I was looking for

(space)

Takara, this time around has been better. Go to any review and comparison of CW Superion vs. UW Superion and see who is the winner. Even for the price you win with Unite Warriors because the aftermarket price for Quickslinger and Brake-Neck are ridiculous. Lousy timing release and the figures got snatched up. So obviously the substitution characters were not as popular I guess. But don't take my word for it, watch a review and then look at your Hasbro versions and shut up.

(Space)

UW Hot Spot fixes the QC issues from CW Hot Spot and you get Groove. Mind you you may not get Groove in the USA because UW-03 is a TakaraTomy mall exclusive.

(Space)

Lets not compare Hasbro/SDCC Devy vs. Takara Devy...because again you'll lose that argument. Face it CW is 3/4 a line. It started out good and then tread down a miserable path of repaint hell.

So like it or not, the paints are better, and yes I owned both version except Defensor. I went and bought UW-03 instead. I sold all my CW toys so I have proof I own both at the same time. And this time Takara wins. Go back to your regularly scheduled Hasbro praise thread and let us have our Blast-Off as a space shuttle.

Sorry, no way is this accurate in my books, UW menasor, defensor and super prime all look terrible compared to hasbro's, and I don't need a deluxe sized motorcycle to go with TT's crappy, unpainted defensor

Nobody 'forced' you to buy a/b and opffroad, they're 'scramble' city figures for a reason, the only thing holding you back from mixing them up was your nostalgia

I too won't argue the devs thing, I like that people that wanted a devastator could gets hasbro's for a good price through the various deals.

Really...yeah you don't own UW figures. CW Defensor cant stand up straight. CW Hot Spot was a pint to even transform becasue the tabs wont line up. The added paint details for Hot Spot in combined mode are the only saving grace but he still has that ever slight lean when combined.

Hasbro Devy looks like a cheap toy with unpainted rims and lack of elbows there of. Yeah I got CW Devy for $100 but it lacks so much I sold it and used those funds to get the better version. I'm sick of Hasbro. If Hasbro did what it was supposed to do I wouldn't have to import.

[bvzxa]

As previously said, comparing hasbro and Takara is a fool's errand. They are both drastically different in terms of how they operate, their reach, their corporate structure and their competition. Takara's tfs face stiff competition in Japan, the land of transforming mechas, so it's no wonder why their products come out the way they do.

There is no fact other then that we, the consumer is the true winner here. Depending on your collection style, you'll have different prefences and wants, so either Takara or hasbro (or both if you want to put powerglide and alpha bravo in a g1 toon accurate superion instead of slingshot). So you may feel like one has the advantage over the other but it's far from fact as each to their own.

Take me for example, I think the unite warriors are quite nice but I'm more than happy with the hasbro ones and I appreciate that they are doing new things with the characters. This is also my reasoning why I love IDW, Autobot Megatron? Sign me up!

So for me, hasbro has beat Takara.

Also About Deluxe Groove, The Deco Is probably a exclusive, meaning all Hasbro have to do is slap A toy accurate colour scheme (or something close to it) and they are good to go.

With Takara and Hasbro, it's best to just see them as shades of grey.

Do you own any UW figures?

No, partly because it's easier for me to go hasbro (I love being able to get my goods right there and then) and partly because aside from looking nice, in a world of prioritising, they was no way I could justify them to my better half.

In an ideal world I would have them all, hasbro and Takara alike.

Is this the part where you come in and say though that my opinion doesn't matter because I don't own the figures?

Your opinion matters to you. Don't be stupid I never said anything about your opinion. However your opinion is based off of assumption. You would have to have both to make a discerning decision. In hand is even better than far, far away across the water...if you get my drift.

[Hellscream9999]

Sorry, no way is this accurate in my books, UW menasor, defensor and super prime all look terrible compared to hasbro's, and I don't need a deluxe sized motorcycle to go with TT's crappy, unpainted defensor

Nobody 'forced' you to buy a/b and opffroad, they're 'scramble' city figures for a reason, the only thing holding you back from mixing them up was your nostalgia

I too won't argue the devs thing, I like that people that wanted a devastator could gets hasbro's for a good price through the various deals.

Really...yeah you don't own UW figures. CW Defensor cant stand up straight. CW Hot Spot was a pint to even transform becasue the tabs wont line up. The added paint details for Hot Spot in combined mode are the only saving grace but he still has that ever slight lean when combined.

Hasbro Devy looks like a cheap toy with unpainted rims and lack of elbows there of. Yeah I got CW Devy for $100 but it lacks so much I sold it and used those funds to get the better version. I'm sick of Hasbro. If Hasbro did what it was supposed to do I wouldn't have to import.

I have none of those problems with defensor, maybe you should've tried a different hotspot, sounds like you got a bad one. Mine may lean a little, but I pose my combiners so it's a non-issue, but of course TT tightens things up, they get the benefit of time

[bvzxa]

Yall funny to me....I mean if you are happy with a nanny brown lackluster repaint of Quickslinger, then so be it. But in the end at least Takara is trying to give you G1 accuracy. If Hasbro had made a proper Blast-Off then the comments would differ even further with "you're paying too much for a slightly better repaint."

However it's a brand new mold which makes sense.

What y'all afraid if you complain Hasbro would stop making toys?
Yall funny in here...like Hasbro gonna come after you.

[bvzxa]

Sorry, no way is this accurate in my books, UW menasor, defensor and super prime all look terrible compared to hasbro's, and I don't need a deluxe sized motorcycle to go with TT's crappy, unpainted defensor

Nobody 'forced' you to buy a/b and opffroad, they're 'scramble' city figures for a reason, the only thing holding you back from mixing them up was your nostalgia

I too won't argue the devs thing, I like that people that wanted a devastator could gets hasbro's for a good price through the various deals.

Really...yeah you don't own UW figures. CW Defensor cant stand up straight. CW Hot Spot was a pint to even transform becasue the tabs wont line up. The added paint details for Hot Spot in combined mode are the only saving grace but he still has that ever slight lean when combined.

Hasbro Devy looks like a cheap toy with unpainted rims and lack of elbows there of. Yeah I got CW Devy for $100 but it lacks so much I sold it and used those funds to get the better version. I'm sick of Hasbro. If Hasbro did what it was supposed to do I wouldn't have to import.

I have none of those problems with defensor, maybe you should've tried a different hotspot, sounds like you got a bad one. Mine may lean a little, but I pose my combiners so it's a non-issue, but of course TT tightens things up, they get the benefit of time

Im not the only one...but if you say so. Geez what a comeback. I'm totally impressed

[Hellscream9999]

Yall funny to me....I mean if you are happy with a nanny brown lackluster repaint of Quickslinger, then so be it. But in the end at least Takara is trying to give you G1 accuracy. If Hasbro had made a proper Blast-Off then the comments would differ even further with "you're paying too much for a slightly better repaint."

However it's a brand new mold which makes sense.

What y'all afraid if you complain Hasbro would stop making toys?
Yall funny in here...like Hasbro gonna come after you.

The issue isn't about the new mold vs. repaint for me (though for some it may be), it's about the TT figures not looking any good to me

[bvzxa]

Yall funny to me....I mean if you are happy with a nanny brown lackluster repaint of Quickslinger, then so be it. But in the end at least Takara is trying to give you G1 accuracy. If Hasbro had made a proper Blast-Off then the comments would differ even further with "you're paying too much for a slightly better repaint."

However it's a brand new mold which makes sense.

What y'all afraid if you complain Hasbro would stop making toys?
Yall funny in here...like Hasbro gonna come after you.

The issue isn't about the new mold vs. repaint for me (though for some it may be), it's about the TT figures not looking any good to me

And a a nanny brown repaint looks better??
Nope I shouldn't have asked that question, for I know the answer
"it's the best thing since sliced bread"

Well if it looks bad to you, then why are you in this thread? You work for Hasbro or something...you must get free toys or a small fanboy check because I fail to see what is wrong with TakAra Blast-Off

[Sabrblade]

But in the end at least Takara is trying to give you G1 accuracy.

Evidently, that's not what everyone here wants, though.

If Hasbro had made a proper Blast-Off then the comments would differ even further with "you're paying too much for a slightly better repaint."

I'm still waiting for Takara to make a proper Blast Off since the one they ended up making has so many things wrong with Blast Off's look that it's hardly accurate to any G1 version of Blast Off.

And a a nanny brown repaint looks better??

That repaint at least got Blast Off's colors right. Takara's new mold Blast Off is bright copper instead of the dark brown that Blast Off was in the cartoon. And the shuttle mode's color layout is all wrong.


And this is all coming from someone who is still planning on getting Takara's Bruticus set instead of Hasbro's.

[-Kanrabat-]

Nintendo VS Sega.

Marvel VS DC.

Star Wars VS Star Trek.

Mac VS PC.

Hasbro VS Takara

Crybabies Fanboys VS Normal people who don't give a fawk and just wanna have fun.

The never ending battle is still going on.

[bvzxa]

But in the end at least Takara is trying to give you G1 accuracy.

Evidently, that's not what everyone here wants, though.

If Hasbro had made a proper Blast-Off then the comments would differ even further with "you're paying too much for a slightly better repaint."

I'm still waiting for Takara to make a proper Blast Off since the one they ended up making has so many things wrong with Blast Off's look that it's hardly accurate to any G1 version of Blast Off.

And this is all coming from someone who is still planning on getting Takara's Bruticus set instead of Hasbro's.

Tis true, it's not perfect. I would have taken a G1 transformation with better articulation.
But I will not except a just plain old lazy repaint of Quickslinger. At least if Hasbro remolded the head for goodness sake then we would have a different argument. But if you're not in the market to buy the Takara version, why should we care or here complaints. I'm still buying it because it's a complete package. I'm really interested in Vortex and if they will fix the QC issue with Brawl's midsection.

But we give praise to the nanny brown repaint...

[Sabrblade]

But we give praise to the nanny brown repaint...

That repaint at least got Blast Off's colors right. Takara's new mold Blast Off is bright copper instead of the dark brown that Blast Off was in the cartoon. And the shuttle mode's color layout is all wrong.

And because of Takara's obsession with show-accuracy, the robot mode proportions ended up bloated and awkward compared to how they were in the cartoon and to how the Quickslinger mold's proportions are natural-looking and not awkward. Not to mention that this is also why the front end shuttle thruster ended up behind the windshield instead of in front of it where they're supposed to be both on the G1 cartoon model and on real world shuttles.

[Hellscream9999]

But in the end at least Takara is trying to give you G1 accuracy.

Evidently, that's not what everyone here wants, though.

If Hasbro had made a proper Blast-Off then the comments would differ even further with "you're paying too much for a slightly better repaint."

I'm still waiting for Takara to make a proper Blast Off since the one they ended up making has so many things wrong with Blast Off's look that it's hardly accurate to any G1 version of Blast Off.

And this is all coming from someone who is still planning on getting Takara's Bruticus set instead of Hasbro's.

Tis true, it's not perfect. I would have taken a G1 transformation with better articulation.
But I will not except a just plain old lazy repaint of Quickslinger. At least if Hasbro remolded the head for goodness sake then we would have a different argument. But if you're not in the market to buy the Takara version, why should we care or here complaints. I'm still buying it because it's a complete package. I'm really interested in Vortex and if they will fix the QC issue with Brawl's midsection.

But we give praise to the nanny brown repaint...

Again, NOBODY has brought up hasbro's blast-off as evidence or otherwise for their use in an argument, just you; maybe you should stop generalizing on behalf of other people

[bvzxa]

But we give praise to the nanny brown repaint...

That repaint at least got Blast Off's colors right. Takara's new mold Blast Off is bright copper instead of the dark brown that Blast Off was in the cartoon. And the shuttle mode's color layout is all wrong.

The colors are for the least not perfect, they are close. I still have Blast-Off from 1986.
To me he's Quickslinger thrown in mud, I shall call him 'Mudslinger'. All they had to do was give Blast-Off a remolded head and it would have owned.