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[william-james88]

My only comment on this at this junction is simply, what's up with that lone wheel on afterburner in arm mode!

The rear wheel splits into two and rests on the forearm.

That, and the front of the cycle is mistransformed - of course

I thought it was just Takara trying to get the G1 look with the wheel up on the side:

[D-Maximal_Primal]

It think Will is right. mistransformations to allow for that sort of thing would definitely be Takara's thing

[Hellscream9999]

It think Will is right. mistransformations to allow for that sort of thing would definitely be Takara's thing

Just answering the guys question, as it does indeed look weird that way - a little too 'out in the middle of no where', it's almost in space

[william-james88]

It think Will is right. mistransformations to allow for that sort of thing would definitely be Takara's thing

Just answering the guys question, as it does indeed look weird that way - a little too 'out in the middle of no where', it's almost in space

Yes but I wouldnt call it mistransformed. Its what Takara has chosen as their official transformation.

[Hellscream9999]

It think Will is right. mistransformations to allow for that sort of thing would definitely be Takara's thing

Just answering the guys question, as it does indeed look weird that way - a little too 'out in the middle of no where', it's almost in space

Yes but I wouldnt call it mistransformed. Its what Takara has chosen as their official transformation.

Well, I didn't put 2 & 2 together, just haven't seen much of comps to know that

[fenrir72]

Hence the choice/option to secure the Hb version of Computron. No biggie. Computicon might(?) have a new head (maybe a 90% probability given that TT actually designed new molds for Groove and Blastoff), a new weapon (?) etc. Not sure if the new fists and feet in Hb will be incorporated into this.

[skidflap]

So the way I see it, both Computrons have something unique to offer:

Hasbro
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Scattershot w/ proper color scheme
Scronge as a bonus figure
American release of the Groove mold
Dedicated hands and feet

Takara
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New Computron head
New combiner gun
Different molds for Lightspeed, Nosecone, and Strafe


The way I see it, I'll go with Hasbro on this one. I can live with Computron's head not being retooled if it means he gets ankle tilts.

(Unless you buy both and you mix and match)

[Grahf_]

Yeah, I'm probably going to be getting both versions. I don't even plan to sell off any of them either.

I think I might try to use Takara Lightspeed as Sideswipe assuming it is made from Wheeljack/Breakdown. That might mean a "less accurate" looking Lightspeed using Hasbro's version though. However I'd rather a Sideswipe that looks similar to Sunstreaker and my soon to be Tigertrack than I want a slightly better looking Lightspeed.

I might go with Hasbro's Strafe as I really like the look of it so far and I like the Scrounge integration.

I might go with Takara's Nosecone as even just from that silhouette, it looks amazing.

Unless there's something that we're not seeing, there isn't (and probably won't) be much of a difference between the Afterburners. So I'll have to wait to see more of each to decide.

Again, unless there's something more than just the head and weapon that we're not seeing, I'll have to see more of these two new Scattershots to make a decision on which to use. I know for sure that the current single retail Scattershot will NOT be my Computron Scattershot. That doesn't mean that I don't still want it to complete Betatron though as I'll obviously have extra limbs around.

For Takara Strafe and Hasbro Nosecone I might use them and a repainted Smokescreen (or the second Lightspeed if I don't use it as Sideswipe) as the Powerdashers. Because they need some love too.

If there's nothing I can do with the second Afterburner or the third Scattershot then I'll probably just keep them in the boxes as I would hate breaking up either set and the slight monetary return in selling them wouldn't really be worth it in the long run. I'm sure I can find something to do with at least Afterburner by digging up some Transformer who needs either an update or a figure in general.

[ZeroWolf]

It think Will is right. mistransformations to allow for that sort of thing would definitely be Takara's thing

Just answering the guys question, as it does indeed look weird that way - a little too 'out in the middle of no where', it's almost in space

Yes but I wouldnt call it mistransformed. Its what Takara has chosen as their official transformation.

Official transformation or not it still looks weird and wrong to my eyes

[no-one]

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[william-james88]

I know for sure that the current single retail Scattershot will NOT be my Computron Scattershot. That doesn't mean that I don't still want it to complete Betatron though as I'll obviously have extra limbs around.

Why cant Betatron be made using Takara's Scatershot instead of the retail one? Judging from the trend of takara going for toon accuracy, he will probably look a lot like the chest deco on hasbro's.

[o.supreme]

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Cool little video. Subscribed. Cant wait to watch a few more

[no-one]

Do you like Transformers stop motion videos? Good, because fellow Seibertronian Madeus Prime has alerted us to a video that YouTuber youheidx has posted of Transformers Unite Warriors UW-05 Convoy Grand Prime. Which you may already know is Takara's release of Transformers Combiner Wars Ultra Prime

Cool little video. Subscribed. Cant wait to watch a few more

He's got some really good ones, dig around a bit. When you get done with that channel, check out this one: https://www.youtube.com/user/harrisloureiro

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I know for sure that the current single retail Scattershot will NOT be my Computron Scattershot. That doesn't mean that I don't still want it to complete Betatron though as I'll obviously have extra limbs around.

Why cant Betatron be made using Takara's Scatershot instead of the retail one? Judging from the trend of takara going for toon accuracy, he will probably look a lot like the chest deco on hasbro's.

Because Hasbro and TakaraTomy have gone independent at this point with the Combiner Wars/Unite Warriors lines? No communication between the two about their plans it seems.

[william-james88]

Because Hasbro and TakaraTomy have gone independent at this point with the Combiner Wars/Unite Warriors lines? No communication between the two about their plans it seems.

Your new avatar is freaking me out Jelze. Its like the Navi decided to join Gem and the Holograms.

[Autobot N]

Because Hasbro and TakaraTomy have gone independent at this point with the Combiner Wars/Unite Warriors lines? No communication between the two about their plans it seems.

Your new avatar is freaking me out Jelze. Its like the Navi decided to join Gem and the Holograms.

Agreed.

[Nemesis Destron]

So do we know if we will see a Takara Sky Lynx?

[Sabrblade]

So do we know if we will see a Takara Sky Lynx?

At this time, we do not.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

So do we know if we will see a Takara Sky Lynx?

Hopefully sometime, but so far negatory

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Because Hasbro and TakaraTomy have gone independent at this point with the Combiner Wars/Unite Warriors lines? No communication between the two about their plans it seems.

Your new avatar is freaking me out Jelze. Its like the Navi decided to join Gem and the Holograms.

Agreed.

It's one of my older pics from IMVU, somehow the board crash (which I completely missed thanks to a road trip) knocked out my previous pic and reverted it to this one. I don't have it on hand on this computer so I'll have to make a new one.

So do we know if we will see a Takara Sky Lynx?

Hopefully sometime, but so far negatory

Youheidx (from the stop motion video earlier in the thread) has already gone ahead and imported the Hasbro version for his next video, that should tell you how much faith he has in the prospect.

[King Kuuga]

I know for sure that the current single retail Scattershot will NOT be my Computron Scattershot. That doesn't mean that I don't still want it to complete Betatron though as I'll obviously have extra limbs around.

Why cant Betatron be made using Takara's Scatershot instead of the retail one? Judging from the trend of takara going for toon accuracy, he will probably look a lot like the chest deco on hasbro's.

Because Hasbro and TakaraTomy have gone independent at this point with the Combiner Wars/Unite Warriors lines? No communication between the two about their plans it seems.

I think Will's suggesting that Alpha Weltall uses the Scattershot from UW-07 for Betatron, and mixes and matches the UW and CW technobots with Hasbro box set Scattershot to make the perfect Computron.

[Hellscream9999]

I know for sure that the current single retail Scattershot will NOT be my Computron Scattershot. That doesn't mean that I don't still want it to complete Betatron though as I'll obviously have extra limbs around.

Why cant Betatron be made using Takara's Scatershot instead of the retail one? Judging from the trend of takara going for toon accuracy, he will probably look a lot like the chest deco on hasbro's.

Gah! He's shaping up to be less painted than TT's defensor, dragstrip, and CW + UW devs combined - he looks to have absolutely no painted details at all - if the UW line is anything to go by so far

[steals_your_goats]

I know for sure that the current single retail Scattershot will NOT be my Computron Scattershot. That doesn't mean that I don't still want it to complete Betatron though as I'll obviously have extra limbs around.

Why cant Betatron be made using Takara's Scatershot instead of the retail one? Judging from the trend of takara going for toon accuracy, he will probably look a lot like the chest deco on hasbro's.

Gah! He's shaping up to be less painted than TT's defensor, dragstrip, and CW + UW devs combined - he looks to have absolutely no painted details at all - if the UW line is anything to go by so far

What the hell is it with you and paint apps? You understand that paint has very little to do with how good a figure will look right? It's all about execution, plus it's been talked about and proved before that more paint typically equals more qc issues

[william-james88]

I know for sure that the current single retail Scattershot will NOT be my Computron Scattershot. That doesn't mean that I don't still want it to complete Betatron though as I'll obviously have extra limbs around.

Why cant Betatron be made using Takara's Scatershot instead of the retail one? Judging from the trend of takara going for toon accuracy, he will probably look a lot like the chest deco on hasbro's.

Because Hasbro and TakaraTomy have gone independent at this point with the Combiner Wars/Unite Warriors lines? No communication between the two about their plans it seems.

I think Will's suggesting that Alpha Weltall uses the Scattershot from UW-07 for Betatron, and mixes and matches the UW and CW technobots with Hasbro box set Scattershot to make the perfect Computron.

Thanks That Bot, thats exactly what I meant. The initial post felt like you'd end up with 3 scatershots and I suggested that 2 is enough. One can be your preferred computrona nd the other can be Betatron.

specially since I believe that the chest of Takara's Computron will likely look more like Betatron's chest.

[william-james88]

What the hell is it with you and paint apps? You understand that paint has very little to do with how good a figure will look right? It's all about execution, plus it's been talked about and proved before that more paint typically equals more qc issues

I agree. Case in point, Combiner Wars Leader Megatron. He arguably has the most paint apps we have seen in years from hasbro and yet that hasnt swayed Hellscream in any way into buying the figure.

Plus, when we look back at the alternators line, everyone preferred Smokescreen over Silvestreak even though they were the same mold and Silverstreak was the only fully painted figure of the Hasbro line.

In the end, paint apps arent everything. They can make a good figure even better but they can't save a figure. And they arent needed inorder to appreciate a figure. They can also, as steal_your_goats said, make a figure even worse. He was talking about qc issues but it can be worse than that. Look at below and tell me which of the two you would rather own? Is it the one with more paint or less?


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