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Re: TakaraTomy Website Update - Henkei Skywarp & Thundercracker

Postby Powersa » Tue May 20, 2008 8:43 am

G1 paint jobs on the seekers. likey.
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Re: TakaraTomy Website Update - Henkei Skywarp & Thundercracker

Postby Tekka » Tue May 20, 2008 8:47 am

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Tekka wrote:Was just going through the website and neither figures will not be ready to ship until late September. =(

And it would seem the figures do indeed come separately, so I won't even have to bother with Thundercracker at all. :D


Thanks for posting the link to Rinkya.com,I'm also in the UK and I've just signed up so I'll be able to order Skywarp and TC (x2) :D
Bring on Thrust and Dirge!
You're welcome. I'm hoping there won't be any hiccups along the way for any of us.

Don't get your hopes up for the coneheads though. I've said before, the likelyhood of there being a release of Thrust and Dirge is way way lower than TC and Skywarp.

And I totally raped that sentence... The shame...
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Re: TakaraTomy Website Update - Henkei Skywarp & Thundercracker

Postby robotrik » Tue May 20, 2008 8:49 am

I'm sorry if i offended anyone but try to put yourselves in my shoes.
what would you feel like if certain popular figures would only be available in my country, and then when they would get rereleased for everyone else all i'd do is complain about it, that i'm not the only one that can now own them now.
wouldn't that piss you off too ?

again i appologize if i offended anyone.
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Re: TakaraTomy Website Update - Henkei Skywarp & Thundercracker

Postby Kryptikore » Tue May 20, 2008 8:51 am

Let's just hope they get the legs right this time not like my backward knee starscream!
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Re: TakaraTomy Website Update - Henkei Skywarp & Thundercracker

Postby Counterpunch » Tue May 20, 2008 8:53 am

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robotrik wrote:I'm sorry if i offended anyone but try to put yourselves in my shoes.
what would you feel like if certain popular figures would only be available in my country, and then when they would get rereleased for everyone else all i'd do is complain about it, that i'm not the only one that can now own them now.
wouldn't that piss you off too ?

again i appologize if i offended anyone.


Honestly man, it happens all the time to everyone.

The Japanese seem to get crazy exclusive figures, all the time.

(They think the same thing about us).

We pay the mark up, pay the eBay prices, find a reliable online retailer, and in the end that's all we can do.

It's the name of the game, pay to play. One of the more difficult things in our hobby is accepting that sometime, somewhere, there is limit which you are no longer willing to put down cash for.
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Re: TakaraTomy Website Update - Henkei Skywarp & Thundercracker

Postby Sowndwave76 » Tue May 20, 2008 8:56 am

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Even with my initial excitement, I figured there was still a chance that these will be expensive and hard to get a hold of.

Now, am I willing to pay more for a Thundercracker if I can get one?
Yeah.
Personally, I have zero interest in BugBite or Dreadwing,
so I look at the BC set as being the 3 Seekers (I know, this is just me).
So that would make each Seeker, what $90?

IF I can get a Thundercracker for $60, I may go for it.
I figure for me, this is worth the City Commander set.
But believe, I'm not getting any sort of hope up.

It will be interesting to see if BBTS gets these;
wouldn't it make sense that these take to 2 current empty spots on their site??
And how much will they charge?
I would not doubt triple digi's...

EDIT: Interesting, I just checked, and those "mysteries" are listed at $24.99...
Of course that could easily change.
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Re: TakaraTomy Website Update - Henkei Skywarp & Thundercracker

Postby bcm77 » Tue May 20, 2008 9:02 am

Tekka wrote:
bcm77 wrote:
Tekka wrote:Was just going through the website and neither figures will not be ready to ship until late September. =(

And it would seem the figures do indeed come separately, so I won't even have to bother with Thundercracker at all. :D


Thanks for posting the link to Rinkya.com,I'm also in the UK and I've just signed up so I'll be able to order Skywarp and TC (x2) :D
Bring on Thrust and Dirge!
You're welcome. I'm hoping there won't be any hiccups along the way for any of us.

Don't get your hopes up for the coneheads though. I've said before, the likelyhood of there being a release of Thrust and Dirge is way way lower than TC and Skywarp.

And I totally raped that sentence... The shame...


I think if Takara made more G1 accurate wings for Dirge it would make a Henkei version suitably different from the Botcon release which was a straight repaint of Ramjet.
I can somewhat understand why people who paid out for the Botcon set are annoyed but to be honest I don't like the whole policy of Exclusives and think that everyone should have the same chance at getting figures for a decent price regardless of where they live or whether they can get to a convention or not.
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Re: TakaraTomy Website Update - Henkei Skywarp & Thundercracker

Postby Seibertron » Tue May 20, 2008 9:12 am

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Counterpunch wrote:Guys...er, I don't know how to break this in a way that won't seem bitter, but I'm going to do my best to be honest here...

3000 Yen is close to $30.

Unless you are getting this directly from a friend in Japan, you're getting it from an online retailer. The price gets doubled essentially to @ $60. Then add on for shipping costs...

Already the figure costs more than BotCon Thundercracker when the box set was released (TCracker was $55 if you split the box five ways).

Now, what many here don't realize is that this is a store exclusive figure. Does anyone else besides myself understand what this means in Japan?

Look, free, zero cost, unpopular MiniCons sell for about $30 a piece in the US. How much do you think the very popular Thundercracker is going to be marked up?

Not only all of this, but store exclusives either run in production runs of 1200 or 6000...

This thing is going to be harder to get than BotCon Thundercracker...

Mark it down.


Agreed. I can see this now as pre-orders on BBTS and other sites for $100 to $150, more likely around the $150 mark.
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Re: TakaraTomy Website Update - Henkei Skywarp & Thundercracker

Postby Counterpunch » Tue May 20, 2008 9:15 am

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Sowndwave76 wrote:It will be interesting to see if BBTS gets these;
wouldn't it make sense that these take to 2 current empty spots on their site??
And how much will they charge?
I would not doubt triple digi's...

EDIT: Interesting, I just checked, and those "mysteries" are listed at $24.99...
Of course that could easily change.


Those are "C-" listings, for "Cybertronian" or Autobot.

Those preorders are for Prowl and Sunstreaker.

Anyway, if Skywarp and Thundercracker get a number it will be DX-01 and DX-02 (or XD-01 and XD-02). That's how the Japanese numbering goes.
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Re: TakaraTomy Website Update - Henkei Skywarp & Thundercracker

Postby Archanubis » Tue May 20, 2008 9:30 am

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Seibertron wrote:Agreed. I can see this now as pre-orders on BBTS and other sites for $100 to $150, more likely around the $150 mark.

Still be cheaper than paying $210 for a Botcon figure.

But that's what eBay's for. ;)
Yes, I know that can be a even MORE expensive route.
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Re: TakaraTomy Website Update - Henkei Skywarp & Thundercracker

Postby Sunstar » Tue May 20, 2008 9:36 am

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I am gonna try to get thundercracker. I hope he will not cost nearly as much as the botcon ones.
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Re: TakaraTomy Website Update - Henkei Skywarp & Thundercracker

Postby Sowndwave76 » Tue May 20, 2008 9:36 am

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Counterpunch wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:It will be interesting to see if BBTS gets these;
wouldn't it make sense that these take to 2 current empty spots on their site??
And how much will they charge?
I would not doubt triple digi's...

EDIT: Interesting, I just checked, and those "mysteries" are listed at $24.99...
Of course that could easily change.


Those are "C-" listings, for "Cybertronian" or Autobot.

Those preorders are for Prowl and Sunstreaker.

Anyway, if Skywarp and Thundercracker get a number it will be DX-01 and DX-02 (or XD-01 and XD-02). That's how the Japanese numbering goes.


That's what I thought soon after I edited my post...
I kinda thought that Prowl and Sunstreaker listings would've been labeled with their names by now.
And part of it was probably subconscious wishful thinking.

IF BBTS were to get these, how soon do you think they would be listed?

And thanks for the heads-up.
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Re: TakaraTomy Website Update - Henkei Skywarp & Thundercracker

Postby Wheeljack35 » Tue May 20, 2008 9:40 am

Sledge wrote:I felt a great disturbance in the Fandom, as if hundreds of Botconners suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.

:-P Just kidding. Wonder how insanely expensive TC will be?



LMAO

Don't feel bad I had some smug freinds who have this from Botcon

I'm definatly preordering Thundercracker

Oh and this describes the rest of us who couldn't get it at Botcon

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Re: TakaraTomy Website Update - Henkei Skywarp & Thundercracker

Postby Starscream » Tue May 20, 2008 9:44 am

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MWA AHHAH AH HAH AH A A AHAH H AH AH AH HAHA HAH H A HAH AH HAH AH AH AH A

I sure have been waiting for this moment!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: TakaraTomy Website Update - Henkei Skywarp & Thundercracker

Postby necare » Tue May 20, 2008 9:54 am

So what would you do in my case. I have Henkei Starscream, classics ramjet and skywarp.

I bought Exclusive Thrust and refused to pay the ridiculous prices for TC and Dirge (repaints).

Should I sell Thrust now before one gets announced by Henkei which you know is coming!

Part of me thinks, awe heck, I paid $100 incl shipping for the figure and a Thrust will at least cost $40, plus we don't know when it would come, could be over a year from now. Thoughts????


Oh and yes, I will be ordering TC and if a Dirge comes out, him too.

People that bought the Botcon 2007 set when first released shouldn't be so upset...it's the people that bought the resold items for double the cost and those that paid over $200 for a $10 toy, they should be a bit perturbed. I am not so upset because I knew the risk was there and wanted Thrust which is just a great figure and a remold.

And with another repaint coming out in the universe line, it just keeps going!
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Re: TakaraTomy Website Update - Henkei Skywarp & Thundercracker

Postby Counterpunch » Tue May 20, 2008 10:01 am

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Starscream wrote:MWA AHHAH AH HAH AH A A AHAH H AH AH AH HAHA HAH H A HAH AH HAH AH AH AH A

I sure have been waiting for this moment!!!!!!!!!!!!


Dude...This isn't some kind of populist victory.

I mean really.

Anyone could have had Thundercracker for $55-70 last year. They could have bought the set, sold off the extras and came ahead money wise.

The set didn't even sell out for like 3 weeks.

Now, people have a second bite at the apple and it will be a bite that costs 2-3 times what the original opportunity costs. Anyone that doesn't think Thundercracker is going to hit $200 is deluded. (If they produce 8-10,000 units, then yea, most people will get this on the cheap. More likely though, we're looking at 1000-2000 units, max around 6,000.)

To top it all off, Japanese store exclusives are MORE LIMITED than BotCon exclusives.

Am I not making this clear?

To make the whole situation worse...

Since these are Japanese exclusives...we will NOT be seeing a general release of them in the Henkei line.

This time I actually feel sorry for those that want this toy and are going to find out how hard it is to get (or expensive).

Whatever though...
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Re: TakaraTomy Website Update - Henkei Skywarp & Thundercracker

Postby Dagon » Tue May 20, 2008 10:05 am

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Here's an idea. Let's outlaw any talk of Henkei or Botcon Seekers. All it ever does is start trouble.
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Re: TakaraTomy Website Update - Henkei Skywarp & Thundercracker

Postby RodimusConvoy13 » Tue May 20, 2008 10:10 am

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Dagon wrote:Here's an idea. Let's outlaw any talk of Henkei or Botcon Seekers. All it ever does is start trouble.


true.. but it is wildly entertaining... :P :grin:
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Re: TakaraTomy Website Update - Henkei Skywarp & Thundercracker

Postby Counterpunch » Tue May 20, 2008 10:11 am

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Dagon wrote:Here's an idea. Let's outlaw any talk of Henkei or Botcon Seekers. All it ever does is start trouble.


eh, it's kind of fun actually

l00k @ ma' Seekers & Dis-pair!
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Re: TakaraTomy Website Update - Henkei Skywarp & Thundercracker

Postby JTKranix » Tue May 20, 2008 10:24 am

I want to post pictures too :(

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Re: TakaraTomy Website Update - Henkei Skywarp & Thundercracker

Postby Orion_Prime48 » Tue May 20, 2008 10:28 am

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Re: TakaraTomy Website Update - Henkei Skywarp & Thundercracker

Postby NuclearConvoy » Tue May 20, 2008 10:30 am

They're both exclusives, yeah?
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Re: TakaraTomy Website Update - Henkei Skywarp & Thundercracker

Postby City Commander » Tue May 20, 2008 10:37 am

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lol, nice SS CP ;;)

I might pick up the SW. He looks a lot nicer than the Hasbro release.
Botcon TC looks fine though 8)


There's nothing wrong with making exclusive seekers, or henkai seekers. The problem is that the fandom's too immature to make sure they get one.

Even knowing that it'll be a bitch to get, I can't help but say MEGA LOLZ!! :P
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Re: TakaraTomy Website Update - Henkei Skywarp & Thundercracker

Postby Geekee1 » Tue May 20, 2008 10:49 am

If the preorder for this does not sell out within a day I will be VERY disappointed in all of you.

Everybody screamed and yelled for this and you're now given the opportunity. I want those without Botcon Thundercracker to not even give me a chance to order one.

Everybody was positive that he would sell as a mass release, so he better be impossible to find for the next 10 years.

Along those same lines of thinking everybody wanted to buy a trailer for Ultra Magnus and said that Hasbro was stupid for not making one. Why then, can I still buy the awesome upgrade kit for him?

Make me proud boys.
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Re: TakaraTomy Website Update - Henkei Skywarp & Thundercracker

Postby Powersa » Tue May 20, 2008 10:50 am

I will spend $100 on future MP TC instead.
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