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Not true for this Ratchet. This Ratchet's a nobody, as far as his screentime in these movies go.ILL-Star wrote:but Ratchet has basically become the third most prominent Autobot in Transformers media.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Not true for this Ratchet. This Ratchet's a nobody, as far as his screentime in these movies go.ILL-Star wrote:but Ratchet has basically become the third most prominent Autobot in Transformers media.
Not all Ratchet's are equal, lest you also consider the following Ratchet to be an important character:
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
I know what he means, and I'm saying that just because a character gets used doesn't always mean that their use makes them important.mirageandjazz1197 wrote:He means in recent times Ratchet is the third most used Autobot besides Optimus and Bumblebee in tv shows, comics and game these days like for example.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I know what he means, and I'm saying that just because a character gets used doesn't always mean that their use makes them important.mirageandjazz1197 wrote:He means in recent times Ratchet is the third most used Autobot besides Optimus and Bumblebee in tv shows, comics and game these days like for example.
Case in point, the movies had a Ratchet who was of little importance outside of two scenes: 1) Explaining Bumblebee vocal condition in the first movie, and 2) attaching Jetfire's parts onto Optimus in ROTF.
Sabrblade wrote:I know what he means, and I'm saying that just because a character gets used doesn't always mean that their use makes them important.mirageandjazz1197 wrote:He means in recent times Ratchet is the third most used Autobot besides Optimus and Bumblebee in tv shows, comics and game these days like for example.
Case in point, the movies had a Ratchet who was of little importance outside of two scenes: 1) Explaining Bumblebee vocal condition in the first movie, and 2) attaching Jetfire's parts onto Optimus in ROTF.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
ILL-Star wrote:I don't mean to exaggerate my feelings here, but I am a little sick over how they seem to be promoting the worst for Ratchet. I understand that they need to make room for more characters, but Ratchet has basically become the third most prominent Autobot in Transformers media. It really seems terrible that they'd do that to him. I'm anticipating the worst. But until we hear or see anything official regarding his fate, its still open.
Except those were things anyone could have done, and were generic enough to give nothing extra to whoever got to do them. Only in the two scenes mentioned before did he get used in ways that only he as a medic could do.SlyTF1 wrote:And helping Optimus retrieve Sentinel in DOTM. He also told the humans to mortar the space bridge. Which means there probably wouldn't have been as many explosions during Optimus's rage mode scene. Which would have disappointed me.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
To be the better person?Overloaded wrote:I hope ratchet survives after all he is their medic and if humans turn on. Why should prime care about them
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
TurboMMaster wrote:If they really need to kill Ratchet off, they should let Galvatron deal the fatal blow. If human soldiers are able to kill character with unlimited amount of luck, then they should be conside as a some kind of reality warper's race.
bluecatcinema wrote:They keep saying "Transformers", but the Autobot/Decepticon divide was made pretty clear before (Like when the Decepticons demanded that all Autobots would leave the Earth). Also, what about the humans who collaborated with the Decepticons? Don't they get a mention?
Va'al wrote:bluecatcinema wrote:They keep saying "Transformers", but the Autobot/Decepticon divide was made pretty clear before (Like when the Decepticons demanded that all Autobots would leave the Earth). Also, what about the humans who collaborated with the Decepticons? Don't they get a mention?
That's what xenophobic rhetoric will bring you.
Shadowman wrote:I will put forth the theory that it was the internet itself trying to punch him in the face.
Not to mention that the previous films have shown the humans to possess weaponry that can kill Cybertronians. The humans soldiers are the bad guys in this movie, showing no mercy to the Autobots, wanting them all dead. If they're going after Ratchet, who evidently refuses to fight back, and get him cornered, they will not hesitate to be a ruthlessly swift in doing what they believe needs to be done. In that scenario of Ratchet vs. the humans, it's Ratchet who is a goner.dreadwing95 wrote:TurboMMaster wrote:If they really need to kill Ratchet off, they should let Galvatron deal the fatal blow. If human soldiers are able to kill character with unlimited amount of luck, then they should be conside as a some kind of reality warper's race.
well ratchet doesnt exactly want to kill them as far as i can tell. so it really should be an easy kill for humans even though id rather him live. he really hasnt done much for me to want him to be killed. then again he hasnt really done much at all...
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Most of transformers that died during Bay Movies didn't fight back, so it's not strong arument. And considering number of times Autobots were saved from certain death in this universe, I'm suprised that reality isn't going wild when Ratchet is cornered. Each Soldier fightning with Ratchet should beign hited by different thunder...Sabrblade wrote:Not to mention that the previous films have shown the humans to possess weaponry that can kill Cybertronians. The humans soldiers are the bad guys in this movie, showing no mercy to the Autobots, wanting them all dead. If they're going after Ratchet, who evidently refuses to fight back, and get him cornered, they will not hesitate to be a ruthlessly swift in doing what they believe needs to be done. In that scenario of Ratchet vs. the humans, it's Ratchet who is a goner.
TurboMMaster wrote:Most of transformers that died during Bay Movies didn't fight back, so it's not strong arument. And considering number of times Autobots were saved from certain death in this universe, I'm suprised that reality isn't going wild when Ratchet is cornered. Each Soldier fightning with Ratchet should beign hited by different thunder...Sabrblade wrote:Not to mention that the previous films have shown the humans to possess weaponry that can kill Cybertronians. The humans soldiers are the bad guys in this movie, showing no mercy to the Autobots, wanting them all dead. If they're going after Ratchet, who evidently refuses to fight back, and get him cornered, they will not hesitate to be a ruthlessly swift in doing what they believe needs to be done. In that scenario of Ratchet vs. the humans, it's Ratchet who is a goner.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:TurboMMaster wrote:Most of transformers that died during Bay Movies didn't fight back, so it's not strong arument. And considering number of times Autobots were saved from certain death in this universe, I'm suprised that reality isn't going wild when Ratchet is cornered. Each Soldier fightning with Ratchet should beign hited by different thunder...Sabrblade wrote:Not to mention that the previous films have shown the humans to possess weaponry that can kill Cybertronians. The humans soldiers are the bad guys in this movie, showing no mercy to the Autobots, wanting them all dead. If they're going after Ratchet, who evidently refuses to fight back, and get him cornered, they will not hesitate to be a ruthlessly swift in doing what they believe needs to be done. In that scenario of Ratchet vs. the humans, it's Ratchet who is a goner.
Most of them don't fight back?
the hell you talking about?
SOUND EFFECTSJ21 wrote:Did anyone call the number and "report alien activity?" What did it do?
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