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by **dreadwing95** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:57 pm

CarWrapKid wrote:
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:It is not Cyclonus and that is a cgi model and that was never meant to turn into anything Nizzi just made that as how to make a transformer thing.

If he's that irrelevant, it's kindof funny how there is clearly a fight sequence between Bee and that Decepticon. Even in ROTF, the filler 'Cons that took longer than 3 seconds to die all had names (the Constructicon clones lol), plus we're getting Junkheap return (named) in TF4 and he had 3 seconds of screentime in DOTM.

Bear in mind that first and foremost, Josh Nizzi is a massive Transformers fan, he was creating TF robot designs before he got hired, that's why Bay snapped him up so fast for TF2. I'm fully aware that the design is from the tutorial DVD he put out, that's why I included the link in the OP. I can't pull the source, but wherever I first saw that image was an interview with Nizzi talking about his work and that image was referenced, it had one of those blurbs notes overlaid with his name, TF3 etc on it IIRC, with the name Cyclonus. Any photoshopper can slap that on the image, but it was with an interview, so... seemed legit to me. Ofcourse like I said, that's no guarantee that they use the name. It could just be a "drone" as was mentioned above, which would f*cking suck.

I'm just going to leave this thread here as well. Some people seem to think it's the same model that OP cuts in half when he jumps off Grimlock so it may just be a drone --
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transform ... an-he.html

If that is the same bot, either OP kills him later in 2 seconds OR it's a drone. Having said that, supposedly there are multiple Stinger's, and we've just heard that the Trax drones are also a "character called Trax". Wouldn't be surprised if there are multiple "Cyclonus"'s.

hope there wont be multiple galvatrons too. maybe hes at least some sort of battlefield commander and gives orders to the rest of the drones

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:16 pm

CarWrapKid wrote:
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:It is not Cyclonus and that is a cgi model and that was never meant to turn into anything Nizzi just made that as how to make a transformer thing.

If he's that irrelevant, it's kindof funny how there is clearly a fight sequence between Bee and that Decepticon. Even in ROTF, the filler 'Cons that took longer than 3 seconds to die all had names (the Constructicon clones lol), plus we're getting Junkheap return (named) in TF4 and he had 3 seconds of screentime in DOTM.

Bear in mind that first and foremost, Josh Nizzi is a massive Transformers fan, he was creating TF robot designs before he got hired, that's why Bay snapped him up so fast for TF2. I'm fully aware that the design is from the tutorial DVD he put out, that's why I included the link in the OP. I can't pull the source, but wherever I first saw that image was an interview with Nizzi talking about his work and that image was referenced, it had one of those blurbs notes overlaid with his name, TF3 etc on it IIRC, with the name Cyclonus. Any photoshopper can slap that on the image, but it was with an interview, so... seemed legit to me. Ofcourse like I said, that's no guarantee that they use the name. It could just be a "drone" as was mentioned above, which would f*cking suck.

I'm just going to leave this thread here as well. Some people seem to think it's the same model that OP cuts in half when he jumps off Grimlock so it may just be a drone --
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transform ... an-he.html

If that is the same bot, either OP kills him later in 2 seconds OR it's a drone. Having said that, supposedly there are multiple Stinger's, and we've just heard that the Trax drones are also a "character called Trax". Wouldn't be surprised if there are multiple "Cyclonus"'s.

Thats what i mean they are drones

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:17 pm

sorry double post glitch

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:20 pm

dreadwing95 wrote:
CarWrapKid wrote:
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:It is not Cyclonus and that is a cgi model and that was never meant to turn into anything Nizzi just made that as how to make a transformer thing.

If he's that irrelevant, it's kindof funny how there is clearly a fight sequence between Bee and that Decepticon. Even in ROTF, the filler 'Cons that took longer than 3 seconds to die all had names (the Constructicon clones lol), plus we're getting Junkheap return (named) in TF4 and he had 3 seconds of screentime in DOTM.

Bear in mind that first and foremost, Josh Nizzi is a massive Transformers fan, he was creating TF robot designs before he got hired, that's why Bay snapped him up so fast for TF2. I'm fully aware that the design is from the tutorial DVD he put out, that's why I included the link in the OP. I can't pull the source, but wherever I first saw that image was an interview with Nizzi talking about his work and that image was referenced, it had one of those blurbs notes overlaid with his name, TF3 etc on it IIRC, with the name Cyclonus. Any photoshopper can slap that on the image, but it was with an interview, so... seemed legit to me. Ofcourse like I said, that's no guarantee that they use the name. It could just be a "drone" as was mentioned above, which would f*cking suck.

I'm just going to leave this thread here as well. Some people seem to think it's the same model that OP cuts in half when he jumps off Grimlock so it may just be a drone --
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transform ... an-he.html

If that is the same bot, either OP kills him later in 2 seconds OR it's a drone. Having said that, supposedly there are multiple Stinger's, and we've just heard that the Trax drones are also a "character called Trax". Wouldn't be surprised if there are multiple "Cyclonus"'s.

hope there wont be multiple galvatrons too. maybe hes at least some sort of battlefield commander and gives orders to the rest of the drones

There is only one Freightliner (Galvatron's alt mode) so its safe to say that there is only one Galvatron

same goes for Stinger and Junkheap and the two sport cars (the orange and the white ones) that were with Galvatron, Stinger and Junkheap.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:23 pm

Why are folks using the word "Vehicon" as though it were official instead of hearsay?

News Credits: 37 · by **SlyTF1** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:27 pm

CarWrapKid wrote:I'm just going to leave this thread here as well. Some people seem to think it's the same model that OP cuts in half when he jumps off Grimlock so it may just be a drone --
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transform ... an-he.html

If that is the same bot, either OP kills him later in 2 seconds OR it's a drone. Having said that, supposedly there are multiple Stinger's, and we've just heard that the Trax drones are also a "character called Trax". Wouldn't be surprised if there are multiple "Cyclonus"'s.

So disappointing.

News Credits: 9 · by **triKlops** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:49 pm

New flicks on the Michael Bay Flickr account

TRANSFORMERS: AGE OF EXTINCTION by Michael Bay Dot Com, on Flickr

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:02 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Why are folks using the word "Vehicon" as though it were official instead of hearsay?

Because of these guys

they are called Vehicons on the boxes and the playsets are based on scenes from the movie

Seriously do these not look like Vehicons?

and there were blue Traxes seen during filming too along with silver ones and black ones and they and 2 red ones were following Galvatron around during filming in Hong Kong plus they are mass produced.

by **CarWrapKid** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:12 pm

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:same goes for Stinger and Junkheap and the two sport cars (the orange and the white ones) that were with Galvatron, Stinger and Junkheap.

Well, that's 2 Stingers already in the first trailer,

Should point out that Stinger is part of a product line, from what we've seen from the trailers they're advertising him. I mean, perhaps you could hope there is only one working prototype when they blow up the factory (Kreo toy kit + honestly it has to happen plot-wise), or that that car next to the robot is a plain car model (lol), but still. We haven't seen anything that says there is only one Stinger and the whole Trax thing would suggest otherwise.

Also, we know nothing about the extra cars that were filmed driving around with Junkheap, Galv, Stinger and the Trax. For all we know, they're just Vehicons as well - go ahead, prove me wrong. :michaelbay:

This is Michael Bay and if you haven't learnt by now, you should expect "the worst".

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:59 pm

CarWrapKid wrote:
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:same goes for Stinger and Junkheap and the two sport cars (the orange and the white ones) that were with Galvatron, Stinger and Junkheap.

Well, that's 2 Stingers already in the first trailer,

Should point out that Stinger is part of a product line, from what we've seen from the trailers they're advertising him. I mean, perhaps you could hope there is only one working prototype when they blow up the factory (Kreo toy kit + honestly it has to happen plot-wise), or that that car next to the robot is a plain car model (lol), but still. We haven't seen anything that says there is only one Stinger and the whole Trax thing would suggest otherwise.

Also, we know nothing about the extra cars that were filmed driving around with Junkheap, Galv, Stinger and the Trax. For all we know, they're just Vehicons as well - go ahead, prove me wrong. This is Michael Bay and if you haven't learnt by now, you should expect "the worst".

Stinger is standing besides a normal Pagani.

And have you seen more of those cars during the filming?

No we did not there is only one orange car and only one of those white cars but sure they could be Veicons

so is Stinger and Galvatron then.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:04 pm

CarWrapKid wrote:
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:same goes for Stinger and Junkheap and the two sport cars (the orange and the white ones) that were with Galvatron, Stinger and Junkheap.

go ahead, prove me wrong. This is Michael Bay and if you haven't learnt by now, you should expect "the worst".

Pfffffff ha ha ha ha ha!!!

Are you using that as an excuse? Of course Bay he keeps secrets from us so does every other movie director. (yes i'm aware of spider man 2)

Expect the worse? there are worse things then the Bay movies and what he does like Kiss players and if you think that your going to get more from these movies then you guys deserve then your going to be in a world of disappointment.

by **Wageboo** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:49 pm

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Bay movies and what he does like Kiss players

I'm pretty sure you KNOW that Michael Bay was ever related in that junk. It would just be worse. :shock:

Unless you are just comparing.

by **Gemini220** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:40 pm

Just seen another new clip while flicking channels, anyone on the East Cost it was @ 9:33pm during RAW. The clip shows a few scenes with Ratchet being blasted on a bride and then somehow on top of a building?

Maybe someone will have the clip?

by **CarWrapKid** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:03 pm

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:
Stinger is standing besides a normal Pagani.

Ofcourse, it makes perfect sense that a showroom would be displaying something that isn't the actual product they were selling. "Sorry but that one doesn't transform... That's just what the product is MEANT to look like. Yaknow, to give you an idea!"

It's sitting next to the actual robot form, and you're telling me that that is a normal Pagini? Showrooms tend to show the product, and only the product. That's why they're showrooms, and this is a production line. It would be INCREDIBLY surreal if the robot can transform but the car can not, that doesn't make much sense.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:And have you seen more of those cars during the filming?

No we did not there is only one orange car and only one of those white cars but sure they could be Veicons

so is Stinger and Galvatron then.

Because there has to be multiple cars on set for there to be multiple copies of that character in the film! Which is why there is going to be 4 Optimus Primes in this film and they will all race together and defeat the bad guys side by side! We know this because Bay had four OP Western Stars made for filming. :michaelbay:

by **CarWrapKid** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:06 pm

Gemini220 wrote:Just seen another new clip while flicking channels, anyone on the East Cost it was @ 9:33pm during RAW. The clip shows a few scenes with Ratchet being blasted on a bride and then somehow on top of a building?

Maybe someone will have the clip?

About a month old at this point I'm afraid.

Also, I just realised something else that's pretty cool,

Swoop in the background, and judging by the size, that's surely a dinobot's arm swinging past on the left. Technically, our first look at robot-mode Dinobots pre-"Dinobot" TV Spot!

by **Gemini220** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:52 pm

OK.. That was the first time i seen that specific clip...

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:53 am

"You think you were born? You were built and they want you back"

Crappy quality of a new spot with Lockdown and extended Lockdown vs Optimus i will make a new post when better quality is uploaded.

This one has crappier audio but better visuals

This one is vise-versa (has South park in the beginning of it

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:03 am

CarWrapKid wrote:
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:
Stinger is standing besides a normal Pagani.

Ofcourse, it makes perfect sense that a showroom would be displaying something that isn't the actual product they were selling. "Sorry but that one doesn't transform... That's just what the

Because there was only one slagging Stinger made its not hard to understand that the product they are selling are the Traxs and not the Stingers because who has the money to buy a very expensive sports car?

No one

Why would they ruin the point of Bumblebee having a new rival by having a bunch of them?

and besides there is the actual product right there in robot mode standing besides a Regular god damn Pagani which is the product by the way a transformer that turns into a pagani its like saying that irl that a transformer in robot mode is not the same product as a second figure in alt mode.

Stop over analyzing **** and stop saying that bullcrap as fact.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:05 am

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:"You think you were born? You were built and they want you back"

That line has Quintessons written all over it.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:11 am

Sabrblade wrote:
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:"You think you were born? You were built and they want you back"
That line has Quintessons written all over it.

Ugh agreed

I hate any Transformer enemy that are not cybertronian.

I hate Unicron because he is a silly cliche villian

and i hate Quintessons because they look stupid i'm okay with the concept of them i just hate their design.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:14 am

Not to mention that it's probably gonna end up rewriting the whole AllSpark origin story into something like "The Quints made the AllSpark". :BANG_HEAD:

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:20 am

Sabrblade wrote:Not to mention that it's probably gonna end up rewriting the whole AllSpark origin story into something like "The Quints made the AllSpark".

I dont have a problem with that actully i can see why others do but the Allspark has to come from somewhere?

Up to this point i thought it was made by Primus or God (I'm Christian if you have a problem with that)

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:29 am

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Up to this point i thought it was made by Primus or God

That's probably why it'll be a bother since a lot of folks accepted the AllSpark as Primus-related (though, in the tie-in comics for the movies, the cube made Primus instead of vice-versa).

Making the sacred AllSpark into a product of an evil alien race might not go that smoothly over with some folks.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:37 am

Sabrblade wrote:
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Up to this point i thought it was made by Primus or God
That's probably why it'll be a bother since a lot of folks accepted the AllSpark as Primus-related (though, in the tie-in comics for the movies, the cube made Primus instead of vice-versa).

Making the sacred AllSpark into a product of an evil alien race might not go that smoothly over with some folks.

Who knows maybe there is an Allspark for every race (in the movie verse I don't mean irl)

like for all we know the Bay movie the first of all of Earth's species were made by an organic allspark or something.