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necr0blivion wrote:

ZenPrime wrote:Preorder up on BBTS if not already mentioned.

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=tfc10014&mode=retail

$97.99

And it looks like that is just for one figure. There's a second pic on the item page with two figures on display (one in robot mode, the other alt mode).

So, I would like to know if this guy is Deluxe or Voyager scale and does he come with extra parts (like FP's Bruticus figures did).

Thats a good point because the only pictures and information we have is prototype images and a name. we havent even seen what is included with the figure like weapons and any other accesories so its kind of sketchy at the moment to be bringing out preorders when you dont even know the scale of the figure. Its like buying a leader class and receiving a legends class... hypethetically speaking though

For me, the POL not only saves on shipping costs, I can hold stuff until I hear if it's good or not.

Preordered. Now the waiting game...

Yikes, $100 x 6 is too much for me. Oh well. Maybe people will get rid of their Classics Devastators once this comes out.

Kibble wrote: but I don't recall ever hearing anything but positive from RK.

You obviously weren't in the line for Sonicron at Botcon. We waited 1.5 hours for him to open his booth and take our money because he refused to open until 10(instead of at 8:30 when the dealer room actually opened). Even the people who had previously bought from RK in the past were reconsidering using them again after that experience.

Midnight_Fox wrote:

Kibble wrote: but I don't recall ever hearing anything but positive from RK.

You obviously weren't in the line for Sonicron at Botcon. We waited 1.5 hours for him to open his booth and take our money because he refused to open until 10(instead of at 8:30 when the dealer room actually opened). Even the people who had previously bought from RK in the past were reconsidering using them again after that experience.

That guy sounds like the owner of this comic shop near me,

The price going for this set makes me think i'll wait and see if FP will save us. That's a lot of cash to spend for these, and in my opinion from looking at what little they have shown us, they aren't worth 97 a pop.....

I need someone to convine me to make this preorder.

This is probably going to be the most expensive TF investment I make so I need good reason to get it.

Kibble wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote:The ability to hold the preorder in my POL and buying from a U.S. Based company trumps the $4 savings.

The ability to get this when it comes out rather than sitting on it for 5 months to get a big enough POL that I break even makes the $4 saved (before factoring in shipping of any kind) icing on the cake...especially when patience isn't exactly one of my strong suits! Sure, BBTS customer service is second to none (more or less), but I don't recall ever hearing anything but positive from RK.

Maybe, but the draw here is the combined formed anyhow. They wont stay individual in my collection so waiting on them all isn't that bad.

Midnight_Fox wrote:

Kibble wrote: but I don't recall ever hearing anything but positive from RK.

You obviously weren't in the line for Sonicron at Botcon. We waited 1.5 hours for him to open his booth and take our money because he refused to open until 10(instead of at 8:30 when the dealer room actually opened). Even the people who had previously bought from RK in the past were reconsidering using them again after that experience.

If that's the worst anyone has on them, great! And for what it's worth, BotCon changed the official opening of the dealer room from 8:30 to 10:00...I know because I found out the hard way when I showed up at 7:30 to get in line and was informed of the time change. The only people let in before 10:00 were the ones that got screwed standing in line the night previous, went 'home' empty handed, and had to come back in the morning. And considering that item was limited to only 20 pieces, I'd say it's actually commendable the guy waited till 10:00 when everyone had a fair shot at it. How bullshit would it be if you weren't let in till 10:00 and they were all already sold out? Now, whether they should have been sold at all, that could be worth a conversation...

Screw it, I'll bite on this. I can afford it, if they pace themselves on these. Hell, I bought Delicate Warrior, after all.

And, no these aren't Fansproject reasonable. Warbot Defender was roughly voyager sized. These are Deluxe, so it's not quite there. I just hope these and the FP Nonsecticons don't come in all at once.

I've preordered at BBTS but that price + $26 to get it here is making my eyes water, this is going to work out the most expensive TF=Type investment I've ever made. The quality better be there is all I can say.

A couple of things come to mind:

Considering the size of the Gestalt are the "pieces" needed to build him going to be split amounsgt the 6 parts - the thighs/legs will be as big as one of the vehicles at least......and by the pictures that's almost the same for those hands....

Are there actually 6 different vehicles? The proto didn't look like it. Am I going to need two of Excarver?

More details and some colour shots would be good here.

I hate looking at expensive things early in the morning.My head hurts.

Motorthing wrote:I've preordered at BBTS but that price + $26 to get it here is making my eyes water, this is going to work out the most expensive TF=Type investment I've ever made. The quality better be there is all I can say.

Have you tried Robotkingdom before. You might look into it because it might be cheaper for you.

Kibble wrote:And for what it's worth, BotCon changed the official opening of the dealer room from 8:30 to 10:00...I know because I found out the hard way when I showed up at 7:30 to get in line and was informed of the time change.

Were you general admission? I got into the dealer room at 8:30 as did every other package holder, because it was part of our package to get in early. The only people who had until 10 were General Admission. The fact is, we paid for that extra time in our package and wasted it standing in line because he had given no indication the previous day that he wasn't opening when the dealer room actually did.

Also, he actually only had 17 to sell on Saturday, because he didn't pull the 2 from his display until the end of Sunday(don't ask me where the last of the 20 originally stated went).

Midnight_Fox wrote:Were you general admission? I got into the dealer room at 8:30 as did every other package holder, because it was part of our package to get in early. The only people who had until 10 were General Admission. The fact is, we paid for that extra time in our package and wasted it standing in line because he had given no indication the previous day that he wasn't opening when the dealer room actually did.

Also, he actually only had 17 to sell on Saturday, because he didn't pull the 2 from his display until the end of Sunday(don't ask me where the last of the 20 originally stated went).

Sorry, I think I have things mixed up...I'm guessing this was Saturday? I was thinking Friday when they opened the dealer room later than it was supposed to (and I think I had my times wrong anyhow.) Whatev. I'll just agree RK is teh sucks. After I get the rest of not-Dev, I'll never use them again! Unless BBTS keeps gauging prices...then ONLY when RK's shipped price is lower than BBTS' list price.

Kibble wrote:Sorry, I think I have things mixed up...I'm guessing this was Saturday? I was thinking Friday when they opened the dealer room later than it was supposed to (and I think I had my times wrong anyhow.)

Ah, cool. I see the mix-up now, yeah.

Ouch. That's quite a hefty price. I guess I'll get one set (my preference is to get multiples of each Transformer so I can display them in each of their modes, but I don't think I can sink $1800 into three sets of not-Constructicons....)

It's a super fun looking figure. But I would like to know a little more facts before making the leap.

What other things has TFClub produced recently? And what was their quality like?
How quickly did their previous projects get completed? Were there any delays?
What country is TFClub based in?
Exgraver's release date is July, though Mixmaster and Bonecrusher pictures /prototypes have not been released yet, correct? We don't even know if they are planning to make them.
How long has TFClub been planning Devastator? 1.5 years? That seems like a long time.
No reviews so far.


My feeling - TFClub is looking for money to start funding their project. We've seen a few 3rd party makers have troulbe, which has led to delays and cancellations. I am not saying that about this product. But when a $100 figure that also functions as a gestalt team member, I would like to know more details before investing. Just look at the Crazy Devy reviews for Predaking. The larger the figure is - the larger the risk of parts not fitting and working properly together.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Screw it, I'll bite on this. I can afford it, if they pace themselves on these. Hell, I bought Delicate Warrior, after all.

And, no these aren't Fansproject reasonable. Warbot Defender was roughly voyager sized. These are Deluxe, so it's not quite there. I just hope these and the FP Nonsecticons don't come in all at once.

Well actually Warbot is not Voyager sized


At that time I still had the Target Springer (voyager) repaint of Evac/Live Convoy before I shuffled it off to my son. Warbot is the same size as Blurr and Kup. I still didn't mind it's got higher quality plasitcs, metals, and resin that it's almost like a hand made toy.

I did preorder the first figure because I will give it a go. I don't buy movie toys so I have all money diverted to third party and Neo G1 stuff only.

bvzxa wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Screw it, I'll bite on this. I can afford it, if they pace themselves on these. Hell, I bought Delicate Warrior, after all.

And, no these aren't Fansproject reasonable. Warbot Defender was roughly voyager sized. These are Deluxe, so it's not quite there. I just hope these and the FP Nonsecticons don't come in all at once.

Well actually Warbot is not Voyager sized


At that time I still had the Target Springer (voyager) repaint of Evac/Live Convoy before I shuffled it off to my son. Warbot is the same size as Blurr and Kup. I still didn't mind it's got higher quality plasitcs, metals, and resin that it's almost like a hand made toy.

I did preorder the first figure because I will give it a go. I don't buy movie toys so I have all money diverted to third party and Neo G1 stuff only.

And I'm pretty sure these guys are supposed to be roughly the same size, large deluxe/small voyager

amcgrath929 wrote:

bvzxa wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Screw it, I'll bite on this. I can afford it, if they pace themselves on these. Hell, I bought Delicate Warrior, after all.

And, no these aren't Fansproject reasonable. Warbot Defender was roughly voyager sized. These are Deluxe, so it's not quite there. I just hope these and the FP Nonsecticons don't come in all at once.

Well actually Warbot is not Voyager sized


At that time I still had the Target Springer (voyager) repaint of Evac/Live Convoy before I shuffled it off to my son. Warbot is the same size as Blurr and Kup. I still didn't mind it's got higher quality plasitcs, metals, and resin that it's almost like a hand made toy.

I did preorder the first figure because I will give it a go. I don't buy movie toys so I have all money diverted to third party and Neo G1 stuff only.

And I'm pretty sure these guys are supposed to be roughly the same size, large deluxe/small voyager

I'll agree with the last statement. Because Warbot is larger that the Deluxes, but not quite Voyager size. I put him next to Classics Optimus and Megatron (Voyagers) he's a whole head shorter.

Cyber Bishop wrote:500+ for the set... Figured that was coming..

Check your math. If Not-Scavenger (TFClub's Exgraver) is priced at about $100.00 in the USA with about another $15.00 to go towards shipping and there's a total of SIX Not-Constructicons, then you're looking at a total of about $700.00 in the USA, give or take.

necr0blivion wrote:

amcgrath929 wrote:

bvzxa wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Screw it, I'll bite on this. I can afford it, if they pace themselves on these. Hell, I bought Delicate Warrior, after all.

And, no these aren't Fansproject reasonable. Warbot Defender was roughly voyager sized. These are Deluxe, so it's not quite there. I just hope these and the FP Nonsecticons don't come in all at once.

Well actually Warbot is not Voyager sized


At that time I still had the Target Springer (voyager) repaint of Evac/Live Convoy before I shuffled it off to my son. Warbot is the same size as Blurr and Kup. I still didn't mind it's got higher quality plasitcs, metals, and resin that it's almost like a hand made toy.

I did preorder the first figure because I will give it a go. I don't buy movie toys so I have all money diverted to third party and Neo G1 stuff only.

And I'm pretty sure these guys are supposed to be roughly the same size, large deluxe/small voyager

I'll agree with the last statement. Because Warbot is larger that the Deluxes, but not quite Voyager size. I put him next to Classics Optimus and Megatron (Voyagers) he's a whole head shorter.

Okay, he's not Voyager. He's too tall and bulky for me to really think of him as a deluxe, though. Of course that still means he was more reasonable than the Not-Constructicons are.

Warbreaker wrote:Five hundred USD.

This is just too much for me.

Maybe in the distant future with a dealer willing to set a hefty discount.

Check your math. Pre-order for Exgraver is up now at BBTS for a couple dollars short of $100.00 (just as I predicted months ago) and that's not including shipping. With shipping being about $15.00 and let's not forget that there's a total of SIX Not-Constructicons, you're looking at almost $700.00 USD, give or take.

wolverinetodd wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:500+ for the set... Figured that was coming..

Check your math. If Not-Scavenger (TFClub's Exgraver) is priced at about $100.00 in the USA with about another $15.00 to go towards shipping and there's a total of SIX Not-Constructicons, then you're looking at a total of about $700.00 in the USA, give or take.

Last time I checked, $700 was in the $500+ range.. All of your calculations are based on BBTS. It is possible to buy and ship Exgraver for under $100 from RK. Assuming that all of these figures will be the same price, that's less than $600 total for all 6. So, check your online retailer??

I still think these things will also be deluxe/voyager hybrids. The comparison shots we have seen of them in vehicle mode show them roughly the same size as ROTF Long Haul.

Motorthing wrote:I've preordered at BBTS but that price + $26 to get it here is making my eyes water, this is going to work out the most expensive TF=Type investment I've ever made. The quality better be there is all I can say.

A couple of things come to mind:

Considering the size of the Gestalt are the "pieces" needed to build him going to be split amounsgt the 6 parts - the thighs/legs will be as big as one of the vehicles at least......and by the pictures that's almost the same for those hands....

Are there actually 6 different vehicles? The proto didn't look like it. Am I going to need two of Excarver?

More details and some colour shots would be good here.

I hate looking at expensive things early in the morning.My head hurts.

Recent pics from Toy Fair 2011 showed prototypes of Not-Scavenger (Exgraver), Not-Long Haul (Heavylabor), Not-Hook (Dr. Crank), and their newest reveal, Not-Scrapper (Structor). The prototype of Not-Devastator (Hercules) had two Not-Scrapper (Structor) figures for legs and two Not-Scavenger (Exgraver) figures for arms (with one minus its scooping shovel). So TFClub has yet to post pics of Not-Bonecrusher and Not-Mixmaster. I'm assuming they weren't at Botcon 2011 as no pictures have surfaced on these figures, so I'm also assuming that TFClub is still working on the prototypes of Not-Bonecrusher and Not-Mixmaster.

With the pre-orders of Not-Scavenger (Exgraver) showing up everywhere, I'm guessing TFClub needs the money to finish these last two characters. I hope that's not the case because I'd hate for them to not have all SIX figures themselves completed to form Not-Devastator (Hercules) without knowing for sure if they will all work well together.