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TFCC 2012 Exclusives Over-Run and Shattered Glass Drift Pre-Orders are Open!

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Re: TFCC 2012 Exclusives Over-Run and Shattered Glass Drift Pre-Orders are Open!

Postby Pete@BotCon » Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:59 am

Counterpunch wrote:I see that everyone has been very concerned and upset over the whole ordeal.

I just want to tell everyone...I just want to make it clear...

My order went through. We're cool.

It's all good.

No need to get upset on my account. >:oP

(nah, seriously, it did go through and then I walked away from the whole thing to find out that the credit card site went into meltdown mode? Bullshit. If it's not one thing it's another.

There are a variety of solutions to avoiding this kind of PR, this very bad PR...

You should **** know better FP. Plain and simple, even if it isn't a problem on your site of the transaction. You should know better. Shameful.)


I am not sure how we should have known that a company we have been dealing with for years, and have never had a real issue with, would have run in to this problem. Every order that I know of before yesterday had been processed normally and efficiently...

I know it is easy to pile on with the scathing comments, but it really boils down to this. The Club had grown by leaps and bounds over the last couple years. The amount of traffic we saw yesterday was the most we have even seen in a 10 minute window. We had no reason to think something would go awry as BotCon traffic was pretty intense for the first hour as well and everything went smoothly... While our server handled all the traffic just fine both times, the CC company ran in to an issue, though as was noted earlier, this was the most we have ever seen in such a short time span.

We were on the phone immediately with the CC company and intensely conveyed our concerns and our displeasure on both our parts and the parts of our members.

We are working as absolutely as fast as we can to make sure this is remedied and these toys are put back up for members to order as the last thing we want are any issues in ordering these great figures.
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Re: TFCC 2012 Exclusives Over-Run and Shattered Glass Drift Pre-Orders are Open!

Postby alldarker » Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:10 am

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Good luck Pete with this. Thanks for taking the time to post on the board. There's always a weakest link, and in this case it seems it wasn't TFCC but the CC processing company. We live and learn...

I'm sure that when all the fans have been able to get their order in, in the next hours or days, without being cut off by Runabout being sold out or some other fatal problem, everyone will be a bit milder towards this situation.
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Re: TFCC 2012 Exclusives Over-Run and Shattered Glass Drift Pre-Orders are Open!

Postby Heavy B » Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:16 am

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alldarker wrote:I'm sure that when all the fans have been able to get their order in, in the next hours or days, without being cut off by Runabout being sold out or some other fatal problem, everyone will be a bit milder towards this situation.

Yeah, but the ones that don't get it are going to be even more furious then usual. I can see the arguments now "i would have gotten one the first time they were released."
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Re: TFCC 2012 Exclusives Over-Run and Shattered Glass Drift Pre-Orders are Open!

Postby Pete@BotCon » Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:17 am

alldarker wrote:Good luck Pete with this. Thanks for taking the time to post on the board. There's always a weakest link, and in this case it seems it wasn't TFCC but the CC processing company. We live and learn...

I'm sure that when all the fans have been able to get their order in, in the next hours or days, without being cut off by Runabout being sold out or some other fatal problem, everyone will be a bit milder towards this situation.


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Re: TFCC 2012 Exclusives Over-Run and Shattered Glass Drift Pre-Orders are Open!

Postby gothsaurus » Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:21 am

Thanks for the update, Pete. And that's a really valid point... these are "growing pains." With the club and convention growing exponentially, some of that is expected.

Sometimes I miss the old days and smaller conventions — but I'm not complaining that we've gone from ONE exclusive a year up to 17. :grin:

Keep being open and quick to respond to the fans like this, and we'll keep cutting you a bit of slack and patience! Cheers.
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Re: TFCC 2012 Exclusives Over-Run and Shattered Glass Drift Pre-Orders are Open!

Postby 3.8TransAM » Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:24 am

So we got any kind of ETA yet?

I need to get my order in and I have to work tonight otherwise I will probably not be able to place orders until t'row.
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Re: TFCC 2012 Exclusives Over-Run and Shattered Glass Drift Pre-Orders are Open!

Postby Midnight_Fox » Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:45 am

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Could one of our American members who got through or Pete give an estimate on what the shipping cost for Over-run/Runabout is?

Just wonder sos I know an estimate on what I'll be paying total when it goes back up.
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Re: TFCC 2012 Exclusives Over-Run and Shattered Glass Drift Pre-Orders are Open!

Postby Diem » Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:52 am

Midnight_Fox wrote:Could one of our American members who got through or Pete give an estimate on what the shipping cost for Over-run/Runabout is?

Just wonder sos I know an estimate on what I'll be paying total when it goes back up.

I paid $12.45 for the slowest shipping with bubble wrap.
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Re: TFCC 2012 Exclusives Over-Run and Shattered Glass Drift Pre-Orders are Open!

Postby Midnight_Fox » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:07 am

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Midnight_Fox wrote:Could one of our American members who got through or Pete give an estimate on what the shipping cost for Over-run/Runabout is?

Just wonder sos I know an estimate on what I'll be paying total when it goes back up.

I paid $12.45 for the slowest shipping with bubble wrap.


Thanks!

Gives me a good idea on what I'll need.
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Re: TFCC 2012 Exclusives Over-Run and Shattered Glass Drift Pre-Orders are Open!

Postby metaphorge » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:10 am

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"We are currently working on a solution with our credit card processor so that they can handle the incredible volume you are presenting them. As soon as we have something in place, we will send out a notice of how we are going to handle this situation.

We appreciate your patience. In addition, please do not call as there are no orders being placed by anyone. Before the CC processing company closed the port due to being overwhelmed, we only sold through about 20% of the run of each figure. There are still plenty left. We may have to change processors and this could take a little bit of time. Again, we appreciate your patience."
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Re: TFCC 2012 Exclusives Over-Run and Shattered Glass Drift Pre-Orders are Open!

Postby Banjo-Tron » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:18 am

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Could someone confirm that if I have an email stating I have ordered successfully then I have definitely got my pre-order sorted? I'm assuming that is the case, but I'm never one to make an ass out of u or me.
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Re: TFCC 2012 Exclusives Over-Run and Shattered Glass Drift Pre-Orders are Open!

Postby Heavy B » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:21 am

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From Twitter:

There are still more Over-Run's left FOR SALE than the entire run of Ramjets from last year...

https://twitter.com/#!/The_TF_Club/stat ... 1907758080
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Re: TFCC 2012 Exclusives Over-Run and Shattered Glass Drift Pre-Orders are Open!

Postby Banjo-Tron » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:25 am

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Dr. Heavy B wrote:From Twitter:

There are still more Over-Run's left FOR SALE than the entire run of Ramjets from last year...

https://twitter.com/#!/The_TF_Club/stat ... 1907758080

I wonder why thay don't state the actual numbers available, although I guess that people would be less willing to pay a premium if they knew there were thousands of the buggers.
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Re: TFCC 2012 Exclusives Over-Run and Shattered Glass Drift Pre-Orders are Open!

Postby El Duque » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:27 am

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TFCC has issued the following update regarding the pre-order status of their 2012 exclusives Over-Run and Shattered Glass Drift;

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Re: TFCC 2012 Exclusives Over-Run and Shattered Glass Drift Pre-Orders are Open!

Postby madplanet » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:38 am

They really need to inject some funds into better equipment for themselves. I still cannot understand with all the money/interest that is coming their way, to just treat this as some lazy Sunday hobby. I am so glad I am passing on these.
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Postby necr0blivion » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:41 am

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Now this is the type of update that's worthwhile. Reason for issues, plenty of stock available, and notification coming. I realize the Club was trying to handle the wave of complaints as they were trying to come to terms with the actual issue going on, and this left little time to go into "PR" mode, but it's refreshing to get a response like this less than 24 hrs after the incident.


Thanks for the very substantial information, I'm sure many people like me can relax a bit now until the next prob er... cycle to preorder. :CON:
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Re: TFCC 2012 Exclusives Over-Run and Shattered Glass Drift Pre-Orders are Open!

Postby Seibertron » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:42 am

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madplanet wrote:They really need to inject some funds into better equipment for themselves. I still cannot understand with all the money/interest that is coming their way, to just treat this as some lazy Sunday hobby. I am so glad I am passing on these.


In their defense and to play devil's advocate, the money they make from the Club memberships, the 2 conventions and whatever exclusives they do throughout the year has to go toward paying their annual salaries and any benefits they have (such as health). While it seems like a lot, it takes some really good accounting to stretch those extra funds earned throughout the rest of the year when they aren't making money but still have expenses (wages, server costs, website upgrades, cost of printing the bi-monthly newsletter, etc).
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Re: TFCC 2012 Exclusives Over-Run and Shattered Glass Drift Pre-Orders are Open!

Postby Diem » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:48 am

breastforce wrote:Could someone confirm that if I have an email stating I have ordered successfully then I have definitely got my pre-order sorted? I'm assuming that is the case, but I'm never one to make an ass out of u or me.


TFCC wrote: If you did not get a credit card processing error, your order should be OK.


TFCC wrote:If you didn't get a processing error on your card, you should be fine.


If you got an email and your card was charged they say you're okay, but personally I wouldn't blame you for double checking.
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Re: TFCC 2012 Exclusives Over-Run and Shattered Glass Drift Pre-Orders are Open!

Postby RiddlerJ » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:52 am

They really need a better method. I don't get why this is like playing the stock market

When people update their membership, there should be an option to check off either of the exclusives. The member is automatically billed and the exclusive is automatically sent to him/her just like the free figure is. Extra stock can then be sold after for people who want additional figures.
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Re: TFCC 2012 Exclusives Over-Run and Shattered Glass Drift Pre-Orders are Open!

Postby Dead Metal » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:53 am

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Why does this happen every year? You know it wouldn't hurt if they updated their site and everything every now and then. Seriously, Auto Assembly's website has updated just recently and it actually looks and works like a professional website now. While the website for the official Transformers club and convention made and organized by professionals looks and works like one made by a kid while learning html at school. In short just like the one I made back in the day.
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Re: TFCC 2012 Exclusives Over-Run and Shattered Glass Drift Pre-Orders are Open!

Postby Prime Evil » Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:39 pm

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According to the TFCC facebook page, "We may have to change to a new credit card processing company and this could take a little bit of time. Again, we appreciate your patience." So take that for what it's worth.
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Re: TFCC 2012 Exclusives Over-Run and Shattered Glass Drift Pre-Orders are Open!

Postby Judge Deliberata » Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:49 pm

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Re: TFCC 2012 Exclusives Over-Run and Shattered Glass Drift Pre-Orders are Open!

Postby Counterpunch » Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:49 pm

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Counterpunch wrote:I see that everyone has been very concerned and upset over the whole ordeal.

I just want to tell everyone...I just want to make it clear...

My order went through. We're cool.

It's all good.

No need to get upset on my account. >:oP

(nah, seriously, it did go through and then I walked away from the whole thing to find out that the credit card site went into meltdown mode? Bullshit. If it's not one thing it's another.

There are a variety of solutions to avoiding this kind of PR, this very bad PR...

You should **** know better FP. Plain and simple, even if it isn't a problem on your site of the transaction. You should know better. Shameful.)


I am not sure how we should have known that a company we have been dealing with for years, and have never had a real issue with, would have run in to this problem. Every order that I know of before yesterday had been processed normally and efficiently...

I know it is easy to pile on with the scathing comments, but it really boils down to this. The Club had grown by leaps and bounds over the last couple years. The amount of traffic we saw yesterday was the most we have even seen in a 10 minute window. We had no reason to think something would go awry as BotCon traffic was pretty intense for the first hour as well and everything went smoothly... While our server handled all the traffic just fine both times, the CC company ran in to an issue, though as was noted earlier, this was the most we have ever seen in such a short time span.

We were on the phone immediately with the CC company and intensely conveyed our concerns and our displeasure on both our parts and the parts of our members.

We are working as absolutely as fast as we can to make sure this is remedied and these toys are put back up for members to order as the last thing we want are any issues in ordering these great figures.


I realize you're working to remedy the situation that's good.

But really, real talk here...

Every year. Every year there is some kind of issue related to orders, pre-orders, and demand. Whether it's club toys or Botcon, you guys are always playing catch up. There's always a problem.

You can't say that the demand was unexpected. You really can not do this when you hype a figure across various media sites for weeks.

You follow it up by pulling the old concert trick of making the people wait for hours and hours before the band appears on stage so that they are whipped into a frenzy of excitement when the event actually begins.

You put orders up late in the day so that there was no real opportunity to fix the problem or allow a roll out of orders across time zones as people woke up.

You are following up on a year where the club exclusive sold out in a day. That followed up on a year where the club exclusive figure was flat out under-produced.

I repeat myself, with all due respect...You should know better.

The e-commerce that the Club relies upon is lousy. Sorry, I am not trying to be a hater, I buy all your stuff year in and year out. I buy toys from various countries, some of which have more hype around them and competition for them than any TF exclusive does. Your practices are the worst.

This is your consumer base telling you something not out of rage or frustration, but as a purely factual issue.

Why can the club not take pre-orders prior to production so that this stuff is never a problem again? Even if the logistics require something extra on your end, wouldn't that be better than the current situation?

Right now, the only rational explanation I can come up with is that somehow, FunPub views this clamor as a positive reaction to its product. Crashed sites, issues with an over-load of orders, and 15 pages of frustration here (not even factoring in Twitter, FB, and TFW) is not a positive response. I would rather see you all grasp this dragon by the throat and be heroes.

I know...I know that the CC company is "at fault" here, but the situation is one created by a lack of preparation in other realms.
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Re: TFCC 2012 Exclusives Over-Run and Shattered Glass Drift Pre-Orders are Open!

Postby Vicalliose » Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:56 pm

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Prime Evil wrote:According to the TFCC facebook page, "We may have to change to a new credit card processing company and this could take a little bit of time. Again, we appreciate your patience." So take that for what it's worth.

Angry worded bickering finally comes to a head. They're actually changing it. On the other hand, it could be a change to something worse, you never know.

I feel better this morning. Less pessimistic. I'll go ahead and get this sucker. Hell if I regret it I can trade him for a G2 Ramjet. Though I had the opportunity in the past and didn't.

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Counterpunch wrote:You are following up on a year where the club exclusive sold out in a day. That followed up on a year where the club exclusive figure was flat out under-produced.
Astro Train and Airazor happened. Which funnily enough, Airazor is probably my favorite exclusive, she seems kinda underrated to me. But they did not sell out for a long time. It seems that that one mistake was enough to permanently convince them to produce as little as possible so they can sell them all out immediately rather than sitting on stock.
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Re: TFCC 2012 Exclusives Over-Run and Shattered Glass Drift Pre-Orders are Open!

Postby Seibertron » Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:10 pm

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I'm sure the timing of all of this hasn't helped. A lot of fans are pretty hot about the First Edition absurdity and now this. I know it's not intended this way ... but the fandom has taken quite a beating during the past two weeks. I'm looking forward to the upswing when it kicks in. Hopefully Toy Fair 2012 will help turn things around. Or that could continue the fandom's beating. Guess we'll find out in 12 days. :KREMZEEK:
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