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Why should they see Saturday morning cartoons on broadcast television when they have cable with the Disney channel, Nick, Cartoon Network, and Hub? They can see cartoons all day and every day and sometimes in the nighttime,too.

babylon queen wrote:Why should they see Saturday morning cartoons on broadcast television when they have cable with the Disney channel, Nick, Cartoon Network, and Hub? They can see cartoons all day and every day and sometimes in the nighttime,too.

It wasn't always like that. It used to just be broadcast television that had the Saturday morning cartoons in the days before cable television existed. And even when cable came around, it was still the broadcast networks that had the best shows for several years until the good ones started getting put on cable as well.

I missed those days too.

And this morning was Vortexx's last hurrah. I missed it since I had to work this morning, but there wasn't much I missed out on.

I think it's sad for sure. My son is only 4 months old but I had always figured I'd introduce him to cartoons on Saturdays just as my dad did for my brother and I. Brings back memories of a time when things had more of a sense of wonder to them. I still watch cartoons as my love for them never dwindled. I hope they are brought back at some point in the future. To me it's not just a matter of having cartoons on, but more so a matter of spending time as a family every Sat morning doing basically nothing but being together.

Drift082111 wrote:I think it's sad for sure. My son is only 4 months old but I had always figured I'd introduce him to cartoons on Saturdays just as my dad did for my brother and I. Brings back memories of a time when things had more of a sense of wonder to them. I still watch cartoons as my love for them never dwindled. I hope they are brought back at some point in the future. To me it's not just a matter of having cartoons on, but more so a matter of spending time as a family every Sat morning doing basically nothing but being together.

You know you can still do that, right? It's not like Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon, and Disney are prohibited from airing cartoons on Saturday morning.

Shadowman wrote:

Drift082111 wrote:I think it's sad for sure. My son is only 4 months old but I had always figured I'd introduce him to cartoons on Saturdays just as my dad did for my brother and I. Brings back memories of a time when things had more of a sense of wonder to them. I still watch cartoons as my love for them never dwindled. I hope they are brought back at some point in the future. To me it's not just a matter of having cartoons on, but more so a matter of spending time as a family every Sat morning doing basically nothing but being together.

You know you can still do that, right? It's not like Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon, and Disney are prohibited from airing cartoons on Saturday morning.

I know, I just got to reminiscing and got carried away in my thoughts. : )

Haven't commented on this at all for reasons I forgot, but after reading the whole thread I think I should put my two cents in.

Trust me, this won't change anything at all, cartoons are not dead and they are not going away, they have moved on. I was sad and kinda disappointed when Saturday Morning cartoons disappeared in Germany, and I was afraid that would mark the end of stuff I enjoyed. But That was over ten years ago.

Sure one free TV channel resurrected Weekend morning cartoon blocks, but that was in association with Disney and Cartoon Network, and those only lasted for a few years and have been killed last year. The reason for that is that both were only there for Disney and CN to test the waters over here and establish themselves in free TV again. Disney now has a free TV version of their Channel over here and Cartoon Network is still pay TV only.

But cartoons are still around, there are channels dedicated to them, both free and pay TV, although there are more pay TV cartoon channels than free TV.
Plus the channels that used to have saturday morning and sunday morning blocks now have channels dedicated to kids entertainment. And toy stores are still full of toys based on cartoons or with cartoons, some of which are kinda big over here.

And seriously, is it out time now to say "everything back in the good old days was better?" Seriously?

Times change, children do not.

So when I read stuff like, "our times were simpler, better" or "back then we appreciated what we had", I just laugh, because that's the exact same BS people that lived in the past said about every change ever. That's exactly what my granddad said about computers, mobile phones, or politicians that weren't called Hitler.

The things is, these days, CN, Nick, and Disney just don't have shows that are as good on Saturdays mornings as they and the broadcast networks used to. Action shows were the king genre of Saturday morning cartoons for the longest time, and they've become a dying breed. Now it's all lackluster comedy shows on the levels of SpongeBob or worse.

The only cartoon currently airing on Nick that can be called really good and has new episodes still coming out is the current Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoon, which Nick only seems to keep airing because of their deal with Viacom (and thank goodness for that since that show is amazing).

And, yeah, Nick still has Book 4 of The Legend of Korra coming down the pipeline, but considering how they handled Book 3, I'm hesitant to think of that show as one that will actually be "airing" on Nick.

Sabrblade wrote:The things is, these days, CN, Nick, and Disney just don't have shows that are as good on Saturdays mornings as they and the broadcast networks used to. Action shows were the king genre of Saturday morning cartoons for the longest time, and they've become a dying breed. Now it's all lackluster comedy shows on the levels of SpongeBob or worse.

The only cartoon currently airing on Nick that can be called really good and has new episodes still coming out is the current Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoon, which Nick only seems to keep airing because of their deal with Viacom (and thank goodness for that since that show is amazing).

And, yeah, Nick still has Book 4 of The Legend of Korra coming down the pipeline, but considering how they handled Book 3, I'm hesitant to think of that show as one that will actually be "airing" on Nick.

There is no deal with Viacom, Viacom is Nick's parent company, they own Nick.
Pretty sure the reason Nick airs TMNT is because they outright bought the entire franchize a few years ago and have invested heavily in it since.

Korra won't be airing on Nick, it will be streamed online like the last few really brutal episodes of book 3.

[quote="Dead MetalThere is no deal with Viacom, Viacom is Nick's parent company, they own Nick.
Pretty sure the reason Nick airs TMNT is because they outright bought the entire franchize a few years ago and have invested heavily in it since.

Korra won't be airing on Nick, it will be streamed online like the last few really brutal episodes of book 3.[/quote]Thanks. Figured they'd be mishandling Korra again.

Sabrblade wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:There is no deal with Viacom, Viacom is Nick's parent company, they own Nick.
Pretty sure the reason Nick airs TMNT is because they outright bought the entire franchize a few years ago and have invested heavily in it since.

Korra won't be airing on Nick, it will be streamed online like the last few really brutal episodes of book 3.

Thanks. Figured they'd be mishandling Korra again.

It's not "mishandling." The show has been much more successful online than it was on TV.

Shadowman wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:There is no deal with Viacom, Viacom is Nick's parent company, they own Nick.
Pretty sure the reason Nick airs TMNT is because they outright bought the entire franchize a few years ago and have invested heavily in it since.

Korra won't be airing on Nick, it will be streamed online like the last few really brutal episodes of book 3.

Thanks. Figured they'd be mishandling Korra again.

It's not "mishandling." The show has been much more successful online than it was on TV.

Yet, plenty were ticked off about Nick taking it off the air and moving it to being online only.

Sabrblade wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:There is no deal with Viacom, Viacom is Nick's parent company, they own Nick.
Pretty sure the reason Nick airs TMNT is because they outright bought the entire franchize a few years ago and have invested heavily in it since.

Korra won't be airing on Nick, it will be streamed online like the last few really brutal episodes of book 3.

Thanks. Figured they'd be mishandling Korra again.

It's not "mishandling." The show has been much more successful online than it was on TV.

Yet, plenty were ticked off about Nick taking it off the air and moving it to being online only.

People were ticked off about the TF movies, look how successful they are.

And to be honest, I would much rather have it be online, than it being cut and or censored. Those episodes that went online only have been pretty heavy, even for Avatar standards. So I guess that was Nick's way of allowing them to be made.

I doubt that the adventure cartoon will die out, the Avatar shows have both been successful and popular, the current TMNT is popular and successful, Ben 10 is still around. Disney is making all those Marvel animated shows, although they are of questionable quality (god damn Ultimate Spider-Man), Batman is getting a new show (Beware while good, had its faults and it's understandable why it failed). There is interest and demand for adventure shows, it's just that a good deal of them is done by CN, who are really, really crappy with the handling of their stuff, the whole "we'll cancel Jung Justice because most of its huge viewership is girls, and they don't buy action figures" is proof of that.

And the whole "Adventure shows aren't popular anymore" thing was from the guys who made Beware the Batman, which they basically made because they realized that the show they made doesn't work with a mainly child orientated target demographic. So that was them attempting to guilt people into watching it.

If the big cartoon makers really didn't believe that Adventure shows have no future, why the hell do you think did Nick buy the entire TMNT franchise and imminently push for four huge (relatively speaking) projects surrounding them? Or order four seasons of Korra when the original plan was to just have a six episode miniseries?

There is also the upcoming TF RID series that's again, an adventure series.

Sabrblade wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:There is no deal with Viacom, Viacom is Nick's parent company, they own Nick.
Pretty sure the reason Nick airs TMNT is because they outright bought the entire franchize a few years ago and have invested heavily in it since.

Korra won't be airing on Nick, it will be streamed online like the last few really brutal episodes of book 3.

Thanks. Figured they'd be mishandling Korra again.

It's not "mishandling." The show has been much more successful online than it was on TV.

Yet, plenty were ticked off about Nick taking it off the air and moving it to being online only.

Yes, it was so horrible, wasn't it? Now it's available to everyone, at any time, from a legit source, in a place where the censors are going to have a harder time getting to it.

Shadowman wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:There is no deal with Viacom, Viacom is Nick's parent company, they own Nick.
Pretty sure the reason Nick airs TMNT is because they outright bought the entire franchize a few years ago and have invested heavily in it since.

Korra won't be airing on Nick, it will be streamed online like the last few really brutal episodes of book 3.

Thanks. Figured they'd be mishandling Korra again.

It's not "mishandling." The show has been much more successful online than it was on TV.

Yet, plenty were ticked off about Nick taking it off the air and moving it to being online only.

Yes, it was so horrible, wasn't it? Now it's available to everyone, at any time, from a legit source, in a place where the censors are going to have a harder time getting to it.

Not everyone can watch on Nick.com.

Sabrblade wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:There is no deal with Viacom, Viacom is Nick's parent company, they own Nick.
Pretty sure the reason Nick airs TMNT is because they outright bought the entire franchize a few years ago and have invested heavily in it since.

Korra won't be airing on Nick, it will be streamed online like the last few really brutal episodes of book 3.

Thanks. Figured they'd be mishandling Korra again.

It's not "mishandling." The show has been much more successful online than it was on TV.

Yet, plenty were ticked off about Nick taking it off the air and moving it to being online only.

Yes, it was so horrible, wasn't it? Now it's available to everyone, at any time, from a legit source, in a place where the censors are going to have a harder time getting to it.

Not everyone can watch on Nick.com.

And not everyone can watch it on television, either, the majority of viewers were watching the show on streaming sites for that exact reason.

And why wouldn't someone be able to watch it on Nick's site?

Shadowman wrote:And why wouldn't someone be able to watch it on Nick's site?

Is it available to every country? (sincere question)

Sabrblade wrote:

Shadowman wrote:And why wouldn't someone be able to watch it on Nick's site?

Is it available to every country? (sincere question)

I don't know why it wouldn't be, I don't know of any region-locked US sites.

Shadowman wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Shadowman wrote:And why wouldn't someone be able to watch it on Nick's site?

Is it available to every country? (sincere question)

I don't know why it wouldn't be, I don't know of any region-locked US sites.

Sites like Hulu, Neon Alley, and Crunchyroll are all region-locked to countries outside the U.S., requiring any non-U.S. viewer to turn to alternatives or methods to get around the region locking.

Sabrblade wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Shadowman wrote:And why wouldn't someone be able to watch it on Nick's site?

Is it available to every country? (sincere question)

I don't know why it wouldn't be, I don't know of any region-locked US sites.

Sites like Hulu, Neon Alley, and Crunchyroll are all region-locked to countries outside the U.S., requiring any non-U.S. viewer to turn to alternatives or methods to get around the region locking.

Seeing as DM was able to watch them in Germany...

Shadowman wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Shadowman wrote:And why wouldn't someone be able to watch it on Nick's site?

Is it available to every country? (sincere question)

I don't know why it wouldn't be, I don't know of any region-locked US sites.

Sites like Hulu, Neon Alley, and Crunchyroll are all region-locked to countries outside the U.S., requiring any non-U.S. viewer to turn to alternatives or methods to get around the region locking.

Seeing as DM was able to watch them in Germany...

Well, if Nick.com isn't region-locked, thank goodness.

Though, for a different case, some people might not be able to watch on Nick.com because of the system their using. Like, one of my coworkers has to use his PS4 to use the Internet, but he can't access certain streaming sites on it because of the type of media player used by those sites not being compatible with his system. But again, this also depends on whether Nick.com is one of those sites.

Sabrblade wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Shadowman wrote:And why wouldn't someone be able to watch it on Nick's site?

Is it available to every country? (sincere question)

I don't know why it wouldn't be, I don't know of any region-locked US sites.

Sites like Hulu, Neon Alley, and Crunchyroll are all region-locked to countries outside the U.S., requiring any non-U.S. viewer to turn to alternatives or methods to get around the region locking.

Seeing as DM was able to watch them in Germany...

Well, if Nick.com isn't region-locked, thank goodness.

Though, for a different case, some people might not be able to watch on Nick.com because of the system their using. Like, one of my coworkers has to use his PS4 to use the Internet, but he can't access certain streaming sites on it because of the type of media player used by those sites not being compatible with his system. But again, this also depends on whether Nick.com is one of those sites.

You're coming up with some very silly reasons for why the move from cable to online was a bad thing. "It might be region locked" "It might not be viewable on consoles."

Do you have any concrete proof why this is a bad thing?

Shadowman wrote:Do you have any concrete proof why this is a bad thing?

Well, to be perfectly honest, all I got are the negative reactions of folks from when the move to online was announced.

Sabrblade wrote:

Shadowman wrote:Do you have any concrete proof why this is a bad thing?

Well, to be perfectly honest, all I got are the negative reactions of folks from when the move to online was announced.

That's the stupidest reason of all! A bunch of people whining on the internet because something changed doesn't mean it was a bad thing, hell, sometimes it means the exact opposite.