Saber Prime wrote:Your line of questioning is going to take us around in circles.
You allready asked that question.
Then I gave you an answer.
Then you asked another question.
Another answer.
Back to the first question.
Because your not answering the question.
There's no reason in hell that TFA Rodimus would be green if they were baseing his character on Green Arrow.
Character and personality have nothing to do with color scheme.
Saber Prime wrote:
I refuse to play the endless line of circleing questions and answers game, ask something else now.
Ofcourse you do because your not capable of answering the question.
Saber Prime wrote:Yes we are. Your not, but everyone else is.
No one set up a critria.
You mentioned the possibility of them useing Hawkeye as the template for Rodimus and I said "that or Green Arrow".
Their appearance came in responce to that.
Saber Prime wrote: You mentioned it so how am I disputing it? I never entered that conversation.
Yes you did and here's the proof.....your first statement.
Saber Prime wrote:On a side note...
Sentineal Prime = Captain America
Ultra Magnus = Thor
and now Rodimus Prime = Hawk EyeThey're really intent on forming an Autobot Avengers group aren't they?
My responce....
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Maybe....or could be Green Arrow.Guess we'll wait and see.
And then your responce to my Green Arrow statement.
Saber Prime wrote:Back on subject, Rodimus Prime can't be Green Arrow because that would require him to have at least some GREEN in his color scheme. Allthough I wouldn't be at all suprised if Hasbro made a green repaint of his mold.
You very well did enter the conversation.
Saber Prime wrote: You're useing personality which was never even in the subject and that we don't even know about yet to dispute appearance.
How am I the one disputing personality when I've been completly ignoreing your personality debate this entire time? Go back and look, the only one who keeps talking about personality is you. You're the one disputing it and you're haveing a 1 sided dispute that I've never responded to.
I did go back and as you can see from the start no one mentioned appearance.
You did not mention apparance in your first post.
You just linked Hawkeye to Rodimus with out saying why.
So its resonable for me to interject a statement about their possible personalities.
Saber Prime wrote: I don't know anyone who likes Tim Drake more than Dick Greyson. They don't hate him but they just don't prefer him over the original.
You have said yourself that you dont hang with a great number of people,you dont read comics and I'm not sure if you fequent the comic book messege boards.
So I'm not surprised that you dont know anyone that refers Tim as Robin.
And I'n not saying that Dick is not liked....but most comic fans prefer him as Nightwing then they did as Robin.
And as I said the sales of the books are a testament to that fact.
Saber Prime wrote:No idea. It was in the comic book shop back when we still had a comic book shop. The place didn't stay open verry long before it went out of buisness. Ironically the place was called "The Broadsword" and is now a sword shop.
Funny
Saber Prime wrote:Considering the dude was the only one ever working in the store, like literally he had 0 employees, he was running the place by himself. Yes he was the owner.
Then he was an incompetent fool.
A comic book shop owner not knowing about the Golden age heroes or that Hal wasnt the original GL would be like a Sports memorabilia store owner never hearing of Base Ball.
Or an Americal History buff never hearing about Pearl Harber.
Hal Jordan as the New GL, along with Barry Allen as the New Flash, were the start of a new era in comic book stories.It was the start of the Silver Age.
Every comic book store owner is always on the look out for those books that both first appeared.Theres just no way that a Comic shop owner wouldnt know their historical significance and that Hal was not the original GL.
Before Hal and Barry were introduced comic books were pretty much dead as a medium.They helped to being the medium back to life.
Saber Prime wrote:Forgetting is verry probable. His memory hasn't really been too great sence the car accident in '95.
Sorry to hear that buddy.
Saber Prime wrote:Here's something for you to think about, even if they all KNEW about the silver age that doesn't nessisarly mean they remember every single little detail about it.
That may be true....but since Hal was pretty much the "Birth" of the silver age you would think that the basic fact that he wasnt the first GL would be remembered.
Saber Prime wrote:Tell me, without looking them up do you even remember the names of the original Green Lanturn and Flash?
How much of comics do you truely REMEMBER without haveing to do any research on them?
Me????Hell yes.[and I doubt I'm the only one here]
I thought I told you this before but I had a major prefrence to the heroes of "Earth 2 when I was growing up.
And Earth 2 is where the original GL and Flash lived.
Its where Batman was killed saving Gotham,where his daughter Helena was the Huntress.Robin had grown up.
Eart 2 was where my fav magical superhero ,Doctor Fate, was from [there wasnt a DR,Fate in the main universe back then]
Earth 2 was where Superman had finally married Lois and was running the Daily Star [thats what the news paper was original called].
I could go on and on but the very first time I saw the Golden Age Flash and Green Lantern I wanted to learn every thing about them.
The Golden age GL was "LEFT HANDED" like I was,The Golden Age Flash wore a helmet like Mercury of the Greek Gods.
Earth 2 heros seemed more real to me.They had grown old,had families,the Golden Age Hourman had developed a heart condistion from all the years of taking the chemicals that gave him his powers.
Those were eliments that you didnt see in the mainstream earth [Earth 1] characters.
The Earth 1 characters remained forever young,healthy and always right.
Clark Kent wasnt even working at a new paper regularly anymore then....he was working for a TV news station most of the time.
So to answer your question....yes I remember the original GL's and Flash's name and history quite well.
And by the way.....all of that was from memory.
Saber Prime wrote: I never said they didn't know about Golden Age, I only said they didn't know there was another Green Lanturn before Hal Jordan. There's a huge difference.
Actually there isint...as I pointed out the fact that Hal was introduced, along with Barry is what brought an end to the Golden Age and its characters.
Barry and Hal are the start of the Silver age, its how the entire comic book industry categorizes the medium.
If they were as "Big comic geeks" as you call them they would have had to know what brought an end to the Golden Age and what speared headed the Silver Age.
And that was the introduction of the 2nd Flash and Green Lantern.
So even if they didnt recognize Jay Garrick and Allen Scott on appearance they would have known that Barry and Hal were not the original Flash and Green Lantern.
Saber Prime wrote: It has nothing to do with ignorance, just memory loss.
If they forgot.
You suggest that they never heard of it to begin with.
Saber Prime wrote:And if it doesn't exsist yet it will eventually.
Thats an other way to look at it.
Saber Prime wrote:I wasn't bent on argueing. As I exsplained abouve I never even entered that conversation about their personalitys.
And as I showed you above you did enter the conversation.
You never sitedc "appearance" in your first post so I could not have known that you were only talking about what he looked like.
Saber Prime wrote:You keep changeing the subject to their personalitys when there's really nothing to add to what's been said. You're really intend on driveing the conversation in circles aren't you. Can we get back on subject now?
How did I change the subject???
You never said anything about appearances in your first post.
Here it is again to be clear...
Saber Prime wrote:Sentineal Prime = Captain America
Ultra Magnus = Thor
and now Rodimus Prime = Hawk Eye
They're really intent on forming an Autobot Avengers group aren't they?
You said nothing about appearances, you said nothing about how the characters look,were designed,are colored or anything that would imply that you were only talking about his outer appearance.
You only went into appearance after I brought up the possibility that they could be useing Green Arrow as a template instead of Hawkeye.
So if anyone is intended on driveing this conversation in circles its you because instead of asking for my reasoning for what I stated you instead leaped into this appearance debate and an argument on how he should be Green if they were basing him on Green Arrow.
Which makes no sence at all.
there's just no reason in hell why Rodimus would be colored to look like any character they might be baseing him on.