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The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Discuss anything about the Transformers cartoons and comics! You can discuss anything from G1 to Cybertron as well as the comics from Marvel, Dreamwave, IDW and more!

Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Shadowman » Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:14 pm

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TFs have survived a lot of deaths, but none of them ever came back from being compacted into a cube...Blurr was awesome...
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Rodimus2006 » Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:42 pm

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Oh so Cancer is a Cameo such as the Baby that resembles Spike and Carly so I am assuming they will make another experience as well.


As for people wondering if Metroplex will transform most definatly cause I have a gut feeling that the season 3 finale will take place on Cybertron and not Earth this time as Earth will not be that important like it was in the 1st 2 seasons.

Oh my bad that was Highbrow not Dai Atlas as Dai Atlus is Prowls Ninja Mentor who taugh him all his Techniques such as the one he used on Omega and the one he used on Sari the Humming thing.

Dai Atlus I looked at the sketches and he looks way diffrent so I suspect he will be in some episodes about Prowl.

Remember Prowl has a huge role in Season 3 and he is suppose to die in season 3 most likely at the season 3 finale of the season.

I cant wait to see Alpha Trion in animated maybe he was the one who sent the Protoform of Sari to earth. I guess everything will be revealed in due time and more will be explained about her origins.

They really need to change Sari's Bio stating she is a human she just has Human DNA over Cybertronian Alloy so basically she is a Terminator.

Sari is going to kick some major Decipticon tail also I am digging Sari's new Teenager Look it was her Upgrades that changed her from kid to adult.

Did anyone see the Blue Post Mail Box that was Soundwave or mayne one of his minions such as Lazerbeak or Ratbat.

Reason I said soundwave was because the colors are the same as his but last time we saw Soundwave he was down in a Sewer.


I hope if that CN dosent decide to continue animated that the series will be continued as a Direct-to-DVD project.

God I hate watching shows on CN cause of the stupid Pop-Ups on them such as the Premiere thing and at the end of the episodes show the same commercials we have seen all day long.

I am also digging The Clone Wars it is suppose to be along series and I suspect it will end at the beginning of Revenge of the Sith.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby MYoung23 » Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:47 am

As someone who doesnt like TFA I was really entertained my Transwarped. Much better in tone.

Who was that Autobot with Ultra Magnus and Ratchet in the flashback scene?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Wheelimus Prime » Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:50 am

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Omega Charge » Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:22 am

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MYoung23 wrote:Who was that Autobot with Ultra Magnus and Ratchet in the flashback scene?

Highbrow.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Name_Violation » Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:32 am

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OMG! Sari is friggen awesome! they made her epic and a half!


can't help but wonder if she'll have a transformation. what would she become?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Inevitable Betrayal » Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:12 am

Well, Animated is back, so that means I'm back on the forums. Hi guys.

I've only skimmed the most recent page of replies, so this may have already been touched on, but I for one was highly disappointed with how Sari was handled in this episode. Animated has been heavy handed with the whole "upgrades are bad" aesop since the first season, but having Sari go haywire like that is just... ugh. She was so awesome for the minute or two she spent in masked hero/magical girl mode, but then they had to go and turn her into a damsel in distress again just to prove a point they've already beaten into the ground. I'm tired of Animated harping on power corrupting or being uncontrollable. And it may just be because I'm taking a Diversity in Education class at the moment, but honestly the whole thing seemed pretty sexist as well... While Animated is admittedly no worse than any of the series that came before it from a feminist perspective, we have Elita-1/Blackarachnia traumatized, Arcee's brain wiped, First Aid has a passive role as a healer and was dealt with handily, and Sari's brush with power is crushed with what can't help but come off as a message that girls like her should stand back while the men go be heroes. The only combat oriented female in the series (Strika) is a villain with an unfeminine build.

The whole thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth. A very bad taste indeed. I'm still enjoying Animated, but it seems like with Sari's transformation they had the perfect chance to introduce a strong female hero right in their grasp... but they blew it.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Burn » Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:45 am

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Name_Violation wrote:OMG! Sari is friggen awesome! they made her epic and a half!


Digi-volving is epic now?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Saber Prime » Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:15 am

I just got done Watching the new episode of Transformers Animated not too long ago. When did it even come on? I wasn't home for it I just decided to check my DVR and found a nice surprise waiting for me.

By far this has been the best episode of Transformers Animated to date. I thought for sure there was going to just be more kiddy plots till the season fanally but that was more like a real Transformers episode.

Only 2 major problems with the episode.

1. About half of the new characters shown didn't get enough screen time and I don't think they should of cramed all of them into a single episode like that if they weren't even going to speak. This problem will probly work itself out as the series progresses but then again it could just get worse.

2. There were a couple lines in the episode that seemed to be a little off.

Megatron said Omega Supreme was offline when they first encountered him and how long can you float next to a giant robot and not notice him anyway? Anyway not the point, how is it he inexsplicably came back online when Megatron entered the controll room? (or to use a Star Trek term, the bridge)

The other odd line, maybe I just need to rewatch the last episode of season 2 again, but souldn't Blurr of known Longarm and Shockwave were the same person before he even started talking to him. Blurr was on Earth when Shockwave blew his cover to the Core Cast Members.

I really don't see how Longarm isn't an allready know spy by now.

Anyway as for Sari... I KNEW SHE WASN'T A ROBOT! Even though they kept calling her a robot she is technically a Technorganic just like Blackarachnia.

Did anyone else notice while Sari and the others were trying to figure out her origins they came up with alot the same ideas that we as fans thought of while trying to figure out the same thing? Anyway one question left unanswered, how did her protoform end up in Sumdac's lab? And Ratchet was haveing flashbacks to Arcee again, could there be a conection between what happen to her and the protoform found in Sumdac's lab?

(Thinks TF Animated righters are spying on the fan fourms.)
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Name_Violation » Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:23 am

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if she digi volved they would have said sarimon :P

i thought it was freakin great. she was sooo over powered, I loved it
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Burn » Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:01 am

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Saber Prime wrote:Megatron said Omega Supreme was offline when they first encountered him and how long can you float next to a giant robot and not notice him anyway? Anyway not the point, how is it he inexsplicably came back online when Megatron entered the controll room? (or to use a Star Trek term, the bridge)


I seem to remember something shimmering behind Megatron just before OS appeared so I took it that he was cloaked.

As for him coming online, well that's pretty self explanatory. There would have been some systems still online, mostly for monitoring purposes, which detected the presence of a Decepticon which sent alarm bells ringing (figuratively) and booted up the other systems.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:47 am

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Delta Supreme » Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:09 am

Saber Prime wrote:There were a couple lines in the episode that seemed to be a little off.

Megatron said Omega Supreme was offline when they first encountered him and how long can you float next to a giant robot and not notice him anyway? Anyway not the point, how is it he inexsplicably came back online when Megatron entered the controll room? (or to use a Star Trek term, the bridge)

The other odd line, maybe I just need to rewatch the last episode of season 2 again, but souldn't Blurr of known Longarm and Shockwave were the same person before he even started talking to him. Blurr was on Earth when Shockwave blew his cover to the Core Cast Members.

I really don't see how Longarm isn't an allready know spy by now.

Anyway as for Sari... I KNEW SHE WASN'T A ROBOT! Even though they kept calling her a robot she is technically a Technorganic just like Blackarachnia.

Did anyone else notice while Sari and the others were trying to figure out her origins they came up with alot the same ideas that we as fans thought of while trying to figure out the same thing? Anyway one question left unanswered, how did her protoform end up in Sumdac's lab? And Ratchet was haveing flashbacks to Arcee again, could there be a conection between what happen to her and the protoform found in Sumdac's lab?

(Thinks TF Animated righters are spying on the fan fourms.)

To address these points:

1. Omega probably "drifted" into view, considering that he was not in the opening shots but "suddenly" appeared. Also, I agree with the others, due to his "modified stasis lock" and reconstruction, there must be a number of automated systems that led to his (short term) activation upon Megatron's intrusion.

2. Blurr is fully aware of Longarm's status. He was even attempting to notify the Elite Guard (via arm-commo) as he ran from the 'Screamer clones (but was out of range).
Upon his return to Cybertron via space bridge, notice he was quite shocked by who greeted him, and, as he attempted to stammer out "OMG, you're the spy", he elected to "tactically retreat", but, before he could extract himself from the (potentially shielded) headquarters to advise the elite guard, Shockwave worked his magic.

2.5 "Longarm Prime" is in a precarious position. He is, as you noted, identified as the spy to the Earth based Autobots. However, he still has 4000+ years of "trust" built up to use as currency to maintain his cover with the High Command. However, he spent a lot of that "trust" with his outburst during the meeting late in the episode ("I'm the only one allowed to speak to the Earth based Autobots"). Remember Ultra Magnus's look at the end of the meeting. Interesting to see how that pans out...

3. I hope that the Sari-protoform thing is resolved this season, I'm venturing that it'll play a large part in the "rumored" Blackarachnia episode.

3.5 For Ratchet's flashbacks to tie into Sari, there would have had to been a mention of a serious relationship between Arcee and Ratchet (enough to lead to a protoform). I may have missed something, but both flashback sequences (this one and the one where Ratchet EMPed Arcee) didn't indicate to me any sort of a serious relationship between Arcee & Ratchet, outside of Ratchet first being an escort, then doctor, to Arcee. Both sequences, taken together, do explain quite a lot about Ratchet, his "gruff, hardened warrior" antics, his eagerness (and subsequent issues) with being a medic, and his relationship with "old friend" Omega Supreme.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby munkimus prime » Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:11 am

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Rocklords.
Sari's upgrade.
Rodimus' group.
Shockwave killing Blurr.
Highbrow was actually pretty good.
Metroplex, Wheeljack and Alpha Trion.

So much awesome that It's to much to list.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Shadowman » Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:36 am

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Saber Prime wrote:Anyway as for Sari... I KNEW SHE WASN'T A ROBOT! Even though they kept calling her a robot she is technically a Technorganic just like Blackarachnia.


She's a robot in the same way the Maximals and Predacons were robots; organic exterior, mechanical interior.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Archanubis » Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:38 am

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So is the Autobot Command Base on Cybertron really a homage to, or even actually, Metroplex, or could it be a reference to Fortress Maximus? I thought Metroplex at first too, but on thinking about it, I began wondering if it was Fortress Maximus the animators (and possibly writers) were thinking about.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Nickolai » Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:41 am

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Name_Violation wrote:OMG! Sari is friggen awesome! they made her epic and a half!


can't help but wonder if she'll have a transformation. what would she become?


I guess it's all right... for the ubiquitous heavy-handed puberty metaphor every cartoon targeted towards tweens apparently MUST have. :roll:
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Shadowman » Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:46 am

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Name_Violation wrote:OMG! Sari is friggen awesome! they made her epic and a half!


can't help but wonder if she'll have a transformation. what would she become?


I guess it's all right... for the ubiquitous heavy-handed puberty metaphor every cartoon targeted towards tweens apparently MUST have. :roll:


Yeah, when I hit puberty, I also got laser swords and a rocket propulsion system.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Saber Prime » Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:41 am

Delta Supreme wrote:2. Blurr is fully aware of Longarm's status. He was even attempting to notify the Elite Guard (via arm-commo) as he ran from the 'Screamer clones (but was out of range).
Upon his return to Cybertron via space bridge, notice he was quite shocked by who greeted him, and, as he attempted to stammer out "OMG, you're the spy", he elected to "tactically retreat", but, before he could extract himself from the (potentially shielded) headquarters to advise the elite guard, Shockwave worked his magic.


From what I heard of his fast pased speech and given he does talk so fast it's possible I missunderstood but I didn't hear anything about him notifying anyone about the spy on his intercom. All I heard was him asking for backup as he was out numbered by the Decepticons at the time.

Later when he was talking to Longarm he started to talk to him as if he were just an Autobot untill Longarm started attcking him and then Blurr acted like he had no idea why he was being attacked by a fellow Autobot. I even heard him say "Is this typically how you greet your fellow Autobots agent Longarm?" or something to that effect.

Finnally, Blurr never arrived to Cybertron via space bridge as you said. Blurr RAN to Cybertron as impossible as that sounds. The space bridge network was shut down per Ultra Magnus' orders moments before Blurr arrived so he would not have been able to access them.

3.5 For Ratchet's flashbacks to tie into Sari, there would have had to been a mention of a serious relationship between Arcee and Ratchet (enough to lead to a protoform).


Protoforms are not nessisarly Transformer babies. They're just in a liquid metal state. In Beast Wars some of the Protoforms were Transformers before going into that state. Given season 3 has the same wrighters it's highly probable the same idea is being implyed meaning Sari could just be Arcee.

Basically, Ratchet was trying to figure out how to help Arcee and the best way to do that was to re-protoform her. Sence she had no memory and would have to learn all over again anyway doing so as a new Transformer would be somehow easier than as Arcee.

Basically neither the previous Arcee episode or this one has really exsplained what happen to her after her memory wipe and it just seems a little too random otherwise. In the previos episode Ratchet's flashbacks were tied into Lockdown's appearance on Earth. In this episode he started haveing them when he was examining Sari which leads me to belive that even Ratchet suspects that Sari is Arcee but I don't think he knows for sure because of the mysterious way Issac found her.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby oldskooltf » Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:40 am

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Saber Prime wrote:Protoforms are not nessisarly Transformer babies. They're just in a liquid metal state. In Beast Wars some of the Protoforms were Transformers before going into that state. Given season 3 has the same wrighters it's highly probable the same idea is being implyed meaning Sari could just be Arcee.

Basically, Ratchet was trying to figure out how to help Arcee and the best way to do that was to re-protoform her. Sence she had no memory and would have to learn all over again anyway doing so as a new Transformer would be somehow easier than as Arcee.

Basically neither the previous Arcee episode or this one has really exsplained what happen to her after her memory wipe and it just seems a little too random otherwise. In the previos episode Ratchet's flashbacks were tied into Lockdown's appearance on Earth. In this episode he started haveing them when he was examining Sari which leads me to belive that even Ratchet suspects that Sari is Arcee but I don't think he knows for sure because of the mysterious way Issac found her.



I felt the flashbacks were just to give us some background info into the relationship between Ratchet and Omega Supreme. When we first see Ratchet in Transwarped he mentions about not just losing a ship, but losing a friend (i.e. Omega Supreme).

So, we know Ratchet had been thinking of Omega. The flashbacks show us how Ratchet got involved with the beginnings of Omega Supreme's lifecycle.

So... I don't think the flashbacks had much to do with Arcee (yes, a little, but more about Omega Supreme) and nothing to do with Sari.

In my opinion,... no way Sari = Arcee.


On a different note... I thoroughly enjoyed Transwarped. I want more of the new characters! I also am very curious what happened to Blitzwing, Lugnut, and the other 3 Starscream clones.

And when will they call the blue clone Thundercracker and the black-white-purple one Skywarp? (if they ever will at all)

It's a crying shame that this will (apparently) be the last season of this very well written series.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Archanubis » Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:36 pm

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby i_amtrunks » Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:17 pm

Not a fan of Perceptor's voice, but surprised Wheeljack didnt have any lines.

Can't believe what happened to Blurr! 8-}
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Saber Prime » Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:26 pm

oldskooltf wrote:
Saber Prime wrote:Protoforms are not nessisarly Transformer babies. They're just in a liquid metal state. In Beast Wars some of the Protoforms were Transformers before going into that state. Given season 3 has the same wrighters it's highly probable the same idea is being implyed meaning Sari could just be Arcee.

Basically, Ratchet was trying to figure out how to help Arcee and the best way to do that was to re-protoform her. Sence she had no memory and would have to learn all over again anyway doing so as a new Transformer would be somehow easier than as Arcee.

Basically neither the previous Arcee episode or this one has really exsplained what happen to her after her memory wipe and it just seems a little too random otherwise. In the previos episode Ratchet's flashbacks were tied into Lockdown's appearance on Earth. In this episode he started haveing them when he was examining Sari which leads me to belive that even Ratchet suspects that Sari is Arcee but I don't think he knows for sure because of the mysterious way Issac found her.



I felt the flashbacks were just to give us some background info into the relationship between Ratchet and Omega Supreme. When we first see Ratchet in Transwarped he mentions about not just losing a ship, but losing a friend (i.e. Omega Supreme).

So, we know Ratchet had been thinking of Omega. The flashbacks show us how Ratchet got involved with the beginnings of Omega Supreme's lifecycle.

So... I don't think the flashbacks had much to do with Arcee (yes, a little, but more about Omega Supreme) and nothing to do with Sari.

In my opinion,... no way Sari = Arcee.


If it had nothing to do with Sari why is it she seemed to be triggering the Flashbacks throughout the whole episode?

Remember he didn't have any flash backs at all except when Lockdown first appeared and it was Lockdown who triggered Ratchet's Flashbacks before. This time it seemed to be Sari who triggering the Flashbacks.

The flashbacks themselfs didn't have much to do with Arcee other than to show that she was holding the access codes for Omega Supreme but it's not what the flashbacks were showing that matters here. It's what triggered them in the first place.

The flash back scenes had ALOT to do with Omega Supreme but he wasn't the cause of them, Sari was.

It's kinda like in real life when something happens in the present to trigger someone's memory weather it be a repressed one or just something they normally wouldn't think about. Maybe driveing down a certain road you haven't been on in years will trigger a memory of the last time you were there or some food you ate will trigger a memory of another meal you had year earlyer. That's basically what Ratchet appears to do because every time we see a flashback Ratchet is frozen while everyone else is still active around him.

In boot camp it was different because the no character seemed to react that way in the present it was just an audience thing so we knew about their past.

Ratchet, we're actully just seeing his memorys. The flash backs are allways from his perspective and he does that freeze I'm haveing a bad memory return thing.

i_amtrunks wrote:Not a fan of Perceptor's voice, but surprised Wheeljack didnt have any lines.

Can't believe what happened to Blurr! 8-}


They used that same voice for "The Brain" in Teen Titans and Red Tornato on "Batman the brave and the bold" it makes things a little cheaper to use that voice for a robotic character sence it's generated by a compter and thoughs characters have no actor to pay.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Archanubis » Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:36 pm

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It is possible that the flashbacks were caused by Ratchet remembering when his brand of healing was very much in need. A lot of his flashbacks occured during a time when some bot was being repaired.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Rodimus2006 » Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:24 pm

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It could be Possible that Sari is Arcee because we dont know what went on during the time after she gave Ratchet the access codes to Awaken Omega Supreme.

Hey I saw Mainframe but it was very very quick he was in the room with Arcee.

Mainframe reminds me of Cereberos

Percptors voice reminds me of Steven Hawkins from Futurama or a Speak-N-Spell.

I liked Red Alert and he seems ok as a female if they do him right as a Female at least he is still intellegent and also remains a medic so all they did was change him form a male to female autobot but basically left his personality intact.

Lets not worry for now about Sari's Origins as we dont have to anymore since animated is back on.

All will be revealed in due time they are new episodes on all the way up to Predacons Rising I am assuming that will be a 2 part episode.

Then after that episode I suspect that Animated will go back to re-run mode or they havent got the other episodes listed as of yet cause they dont want that much spoiled about season 3 yet.

Sari = Arcee is an excellent theory on who she really is and also would explain how a Protoform Cybertronian landed on Earth.

Ratchet had Flashbacks everytime he worked on Sari so this could also be included into the Arcee is Sari theory it is the best equation explaining her origins and fits into the story.

But knowing the writers it could be something totally diffrent and still could be interesting.

Whatever the case we have another reason to watch Animated this season and that is to find out Who sari is, Will Omega Supreme ever stop random jumping around the cosmos, Will they learn the true indentity of Shockwave/Long Arm Prime.

Did Blurr really meet his untimely dimese will they ever learn that they just threw away one of there comrades inside of Metroplex.

All these questions and more should be revealed in this season but I guess will it will also leave us with more questions than answers as long as some of the most important ones are answered I am cool which ever way Animated ends up this season.

So just sit back watch and we will eventually learn all in due time.
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