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The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Discuss anything about the Transformers cartoons and comics! You can discuss anything from G1 to Cybertron as well as the comics from Marvel, Dreamwave, IDW and more!

Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Saber Prime » Sun Apr 12, 2009 2:30 pm

Sabrblade wrote:You guys remember this, right?

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Of those objects, the ones we've seen so far are:

1. Blitzwing's helmet (Five Servos of Doom)
2. Red Alert's left arm tool (Transwarped)
3. A mailbox automaton (Transwarped)
4. Waspinator's exposed head (Where is Thy Sting?)
5. A rat (Predacons Rising)
6. Lugnut's arm with his explosive mod removed (Five Servos of Doom)

And the ones that are remaining are:

1. A baby that is obviously Spike and Carly's new kid
2. The Lazerbeak guitar
3. Cancer
5. An x-ray of Hot Shot's leg
6. An engine
7. Porter C. Powell sporting a new fur coat
8. Energon Popcicle (ON A STEECK!)

Unless I've missed some.


5. An x-ray of Hot Shot's leg was in Transwarped, why did you put it under the list of things we haven't seen? That was shown right before Red Alert said his leg would have to be amputated.

Come to think of it, Red Alert just said the same thing to Hot Shot that Ratchet said to Arcee except Arcee didn't have as big a reaction and Ratchet wasn't eaten by a giant frog right after.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:43 pm

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Saber Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:You guys remember this, right?

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Of those objects, the ones we've seen so far are:

1. Blitzwing's helmet (Five Servos of Doom)
2. Red Alert's left arm tool (Transwarped)
3. A mailbox automaton (Transwarped)
4. Waspinator's exposed head (Where is Thy Sting?)
5. A rat (Predacons Rising)
6. Lugnut's arm with his explosive mod removed (Five Servos of Doom)

And the ones that are remaining are:

1. A baby that is obviously Spike and Carly's new kid
2. The Lazerbeak guitar
3. Cancer
5. An x-ray of Hot Shot's leg
6. An engine
7. Porter C. Powell sporting a new fur coat
8. Energon Popcicle (ON A STEECK!)

Unless I've missed some.


5. An x-ray of Hot Shot's leg was in Transwarped, why did you put it under the list of things we haven't seen? That was shown right before Red Alert said his leg would have to be amputated.

Come to think of it, Red Alert just said the same thing to Hot Shot that Ratchet said to Arcee except Arcee didn't have as big a reaction and Ratchet wasn't eaten by a giant frog right after.
Actually, when Red Alert checked it out, we only saw a partial x-ray of the leg (mostly the back of the leg and none of the foot). We still have yet to see the whole leg-and-foot x-ray.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Archanubis » Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:45 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:6. An engine

I think that engine was part of the transwarp gate that played a large part in TransWarped and "Three's a Crowd."
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:58 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:6. An engine

I think that engine was part of the transwarp gate that played a large part in TransWarped and "Three's a Crowd."
Oh, yeah. But what did Bulkhead call it? There were two objects, one that picked up a warp, and one that retrieved those who were warping.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Ragnorok64 » Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:00 am

Anyone else totally feel sorry for Wasp? I mean, everything sucks for that guy.

Also I'm not sure what the think about Jetstorm and Jetfire soloing the dinobots...
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Rodimus2006 » Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:02 am

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Some of the scavenger items in the Photo above havent been seen as of yet but will later on in S3.

The Cancer Kid, the Pike Like Object, The Red Hate Plague Foot, Mr. Powell in the Coat. The Baby or The Guitar and the Motor Thingy.

I cant wait to see Sari back in Action in the "Human Error" Episode.

I hope everything is explained finally remeber they are not that many episode left in S3.

They have already been 7 episodes shown "Transwarped dosent count as 1 episode it is 3 episode shown together as a movie like "Tranform & Roll Out was.

So that mean only 6 episodes remain and if things remain constant with the way they show new episodes every saturday that mean Animated will be over with in May or June.

Remeber they said that they are only 13 episode in season 3 altogether last episode that is titles is named "Decipticon Air"

Decipticon Air will be episode 9 in season 3 with 4 unkown episodes remaining with the season finale being a multipart episode rather that is 2 episodes or 3 remains a mystery.

I have no idea why they are rushing season 3 instead of saving the best for last knowing that Animated is canceled after season 3 is finished.

My only thought is that they have another TF-Series in the works or they wanna give The TF Franchise a rest for a while.

Usually big news about TF or any of the animated series is released at Botcon or Comic-Con.

Look I dont know if the rumors are true or not true about Animated ending after season 3 ends it run.

It could be a misleading campaign sort of how Micheal Bay does regarding the Transformers movies.

I guess we will find out when Animated S3 ends this summer.


But yeah I cant wait for "Human Error" what is this episode about the Autobots becoming human through some wierd experiment gone wrong we seen Pics of them in Human Form.

Or is this episode revealing more on Sari's Origins and how she ended up on Earth and who send her there and for what purpose.

I guess we will find out this coming Saturday.

Rember this episode is a 2 parter like "Megatron Rising" was serving as a Mid-Point of season 3, which means they arent much left in season 3.

I just hope that if season 3 is the end of Animated I hope they give it a decent goodbye and a good season finale.

It has been a great series but they have been a few dull episodes in it here and there overall best series since Beast Wars.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Name_Violation » Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:15 am

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being the best show since Beast Wars isn't hard. the rest have been sub par. RID had its redeeming moments, the pokeformers trillogy being second worst, BM being as pleasant as a bm.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Rodimus2006 » Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:24 am

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I liked the Unicron Trilogy but it wasnt all that great because it focused a little to heavily on the Human Elements a little to much espically in Cybertron.

I liked some of the human casting such as Kicker in Energon and I liked Coby in Cybertron and Rad in Armada

I hated Bud and Lori didnt care to much for Mischa and I didnt care to much for Alexsis, Carlos, Billy or Fred.


That is what hurt the Unicron Trilogy was the human Element.



RID I really dont remeber all that well cause I havent seen it since it was last on FOX back in the 90's Which was almost 10 or 12 years ago.

It dosent look like the show will ever see the light of day on DVD in the USA but has been re-released 3 times already in the UK.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Name_Violation » Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:07 am

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what ruined the trilogy is that it was pokeformers. and not in anything resembeling a good way. minicon=pokemon, and optimus as ash. gotta catchem all bs
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Burn » Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:11 am

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Name_Violation wrote:being the best show since Beast Wars isn't hard. the rest have been sub par. RID had its redeeming moments, the pokeformers trillogy being second worst, BM being as pleasant as a bm.


At least all those series had a decent animation style.

And frankly, A/E/C had storylines and less annoying characters.

But that's just my opinion.
(In other words, each to their own, you have your opinion, I have mine.)
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Newtilator » Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:16 am

Sabrblade wrote:You guys remember this, right?

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Of those objects, the ones we've seen so far are:

1. Blitzwing's helmet (Five Servos of Doom)
2. Red Alert's left arm tool (Transwarped)
3. A mailbox automaton (Transwarped)
4. Waspinator's exposed head (Where is Thy Sting?)
5. A rat (Predacons Rising)
6. Lugnut's arm with his explosive mod removed (Five Servos of Doom)

And the ones that are remaining are:

1. A baby that is obviously Spike and Carly's new kid
2. The Lazerbeak guitar
3. Cancer
5. An x-ray of Hot Shot's leg
6. An engine
7. Porter C. Powell sporting a new fur coat
8. Energon Popcicle (ON A STEECK!)

Unless I've missed some.


The "engine" is the transwarp module from transwarped isn't it?
And weve seen Porter C powell too, haven't we?
Predacons rising rox. I thought it was a 2 parter though. Wasps voice change was saad. And I reeaaally want Waspinator to come here in the Uk.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby munkimus prime » Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:07 am

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Predicons Rising was pretty good not the best this season but good.

Ther's only 6 episodes of animated left but atleast Sari's back next episode and Soundwave. :sad:
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Shadowman » Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:15 am

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Burn wrote:And frankly, A/E/C had storylines and less annoying characters.


Are we thinking of the same A/E/C? The one with Billy, Fred, Kicker, those guys?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Rodimus2006 » Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:05 pm

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Armada - Alexsis, Rad, Carlos, Billy & Fred

Energon - Kicker & Misha Dr. Jones, Sally and Miranda

Cybertron - Coby, Bud, Lori, Col. Franklin, the Professor


Animated - Captain Fanzone, Sari, Matserson, The Human Villians, Sumdac and Powell


I hope that clears up the confusion

Yes sorry to say it but yes only 6 episodes remain of Animated.

But Sari and Sounwave will be returning in Human Error
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Saber Prime » Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:24 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Saber Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:You guys remember this, right?

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Of those objects, the ones we've seen so far are:

1. Blitzwing's helmet (Five Servos of Doom)
2. Red Alert's left arm tool (Transwarped)
3. A mailbox automaton (Transwarped)
4. Waspinator's exposed head (Where is Thy Sting?)
5. A rat (Predacons Rising)
6. Lugnut's arm with his explosive mod removed (Five Servos of Doom)

And the ones that are remaining are:

1. A baby that is obviously Spike and Carly's new kid
2. The Lazerbeak guitar
3. Cancer
5. An x-ray of Hot Shot's leg
6. An engine
7. Porter C. Powell sporting a new fur coat
8. Energon Popcicle (ON A STEECK!)

Unless I've missed some.


5. An x-ray of Hot Shot's leg was in Transwarped, why did you put it under the list of things we haven't seen? That was shown right before Red Alert said his leg would have to be amputated.

Come to think of it, Red Alert just said the same thing to Hot Shot that Ratchet said to Arcee except Arcee didn't have as big a reaction and Ratchet wasn't eaten by a giant frog right after.
Actually, when Red Alert checked it out, we only saw a partial x-ray of the leg (mostly the back of the leg and none of the foot). We still have yet to see the whole leg-and-foot x-ray.


If you want to get that technical the exsplosive mods removed from Lugnut in that picture do not look like the ones shown in the cartoon so we haven't seen that yet either.

The leg x-ray in the picture abouve looks like the same x-ray from the cartoon to me but the Lugnut mods shown in the cartoon were cilinders only. They didn't have the bits that form his hands on the one end.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:03 pm

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Saber Prime » Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:06 pm

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Burn wrote:And frankly, A/E/C had storylines and less annoying characters.


Are we thinking of the same A/E/C? The one with Billy, Fred, Kicker, those guys?


I agree with Shadowman. A/E/C had the MOST annoying human characters in any TF series by far. I mainly hated the female characters on the shows because even though they were the same ages as the boys they acted WAY older.

Pluse, what storylines? Energon and Cybertron had OK story lines on their own but Armada's story line was IMPOSSIBLE to follow along with even when I was watching every episode from start to finish I still couldn't follow the so called story. Each episode seemed to take place in a new continuity insted of following what actully happened in the previous episodes.

My best examples. Sideways. At first he seemed to be a spy working for a 3rd party, not really Autobot or Decepticon. At the end of the series he revieled that he was actully Unicron. If you follow that as a single story line that means Sideways and Unicron being the same character were actully working for someone else much more powerfull that was never revieled. Sideways was in fact seen without his mini-con heads comunicating with someone who I can only assume is Unicron but if he is Unicron why would he need to open a com signal to himself? No part of the whole Sideways is Unicron story makes any sence.

Example 2. Past parts 1 and 2. Past part 2 was actully the only good episode of Armada but it didn't have any new story line in it and it didn't continue the story line from where Past 1 ended. Part 2 only retold the SAME story that was allready told in part 1. Part 2 told a much better version of that same story.

Past Part 1 started out as a story that focused on Sideswipe and Blurr and then about half way through or less started telling a story about Hot Shot and Wheeljack. The next episode retold the Hot Shot and Wheeljack story and left out the parts about Blurr and Sideswipe. From what I gather Part 1, the Blurr and Sideswipe story wasn't enough to fill a whole episode so they stuck a good majority of the part 2 story in there to the point where part 2 just looked like a retelling rather than a continuation.

Now all 3 series togeather. Other than the Decepticons shareing the same molds as their Armada counterparts and the human characters being the same but older Energon does not continue the Armada story line. Or lack there of and I'm glad it didn't because Armada was so horrible. For one thing all the Autobots were in entirely new forms and it's never exsplained how or why they upgraded. At least one of the upgraded Autobots was a Mini-con in the previous series and not just any Mini-con, he was Thrust's partner. Inferno who was a Mini-con partner to a Decepticon turned into an Autobot who was more closely related to his namesake from a completly different continuity than to the Unicron Trilligy. Cybertron on it's own was allso a good series but does not in ANY way follow Armada or Energon.

As a continuity A/E/C has the absolute WORST story line.

Anyway back to animated. It's still an OK series, I'm just going to pretend 5 Servos of Doom never happened because that's the worst episode so far as far as keep continuity right goes. As far as being the best series sence Beast Wars goes, it had the potential to be when it first started but that kinda flew out the window some time last season. I still like it but it'll never replace Beast Wars at this point.

I still hope for a series that can be better than Beast Wars and really I think the only way that would be possible is to make a Prequill series and build it up to where Beast Wars started from. The characters would have to have different names and there needs to be a few episodes detailing the creation of Protoform X. Allso I'd like to finnally know what Tarantulas ment when he said that him and the Tripdicus Council weren't decended from the Autobots or Decepticons.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:30 pm

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Rodimus2006 wrote:Decipticon Air will be episode 9 in season 3 with 4 unkown episodes remaining with the season finale being a multipart episode rather that is 2 episodes or 3 remains a mystery.
"Human Error" is a 2-part episode, so "Decepticon Air" will be the tenth one.

The remaining three are "This is Why I Hate Machines" "Endgame, Part 1", and "Endgame, Part 2".

Rodimus2006 wrote:Look I dont know if the rumors are true or not true about Animated ending after season 3 ends it run.
Derrick Wyatt confirmed that season three would the last season in a recent "IMterview".

Rodimus2006 wrote:But yeah I cant wait for "Human Error" what is this episode about the Autobots becoming human through some wierd experiment gone wrong we seen Pics of them in Human Form.
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Rodimus2006 wrote:RID I really dont remeber all that well cause I havent seen it since it was last on FOX back in the 90's Which was almost 10 or 12 years ago.

It dosent look like the show will ever see the light of day on DVD in the USA but has been re-released 3 times already in the UK.
It aired on Fox in 2001.

The UK only got two series releases of it, not three. One pair of boxed sets, then another pair that lacked the features the first pair had. The third release (which would've been a single box set) was cancelled.

Name_Violation wrote:what ruined the trilogy is that it was pokeformers. and not in anything resembeling a good way. minicon=pokemon, and optimus as ash. gotta catchem all bs
Only Armada was like that, and just its first half. The second half gave all its attention to Starscream, the three weapons, and Unicron.

Newtilator wrote:And weve seen Porter C powell too, haven't we?
Yes, but not in that coat. Now that we know "Human Error" is set around Christmas, he could be wearing it there.

Saber Prime wrote:My best examples. Sideways. At first he seemed to be a spy working for a 3rd party, not really Autobot or Decepticon. At the end of the series he revieled that he was actully Unicron. If you follow that as a single story line that means Sideways and Unicron being the same character were actully working for someone else much more powerfull that was never revieled. Sideways was in fact seen without his mini-con heads comunicating with someone who I can only assume is Unicron but if he is Unicron why would he need to open a com signal to himself? No part of the whole Sideways is Unicron story makes any sence.
I think that may have been a dub error. The animation made it seem more like Unicron was supposed to be speaking through Sideways, as a vessel, to Prime and Megs. Yet the dialogue made it sound like the two were the same guy. This was likely a dubbing error.

Or, we could all just pretend that the person Sideways/Unicron is working for is Hytherion. :P
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Archanubis » Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:37 pm

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Are we thinking of the same A/E/C? The one with Billy, Fred, Kicker, those guys?

I was going to say the same thing.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Burn » Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:41 pm

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Burn wrote:And frankly, A/E/C had storylines and less annoying characters.


Are we thinking of the same A/E/C? The one with Billy, Fred, Kicker, those guys?


Yes, those ones.

Frankly I find Sari to be more annoying than all of the A/E/C humans combined.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Star_ling » Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:09 pm

Burn wrote:
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Burn wrote:And frankly, A/E/C had storylines and less annoying characters.


Are we thinking of the same A/E/C? The one with Billy, Fred, Kicker, those guys?


Yes, those ones.

Frankly I find Sari to be more annoying than all of the A/E/C humans combined.


While I liked a good portion of the A/E/C trilogy I can't say the humans in that show weren't more annoying than Sari. She kinda had an excuse for being irritating at times, she was a little kid. The kids in A/E/C didn't, especially Kicker. They were young but they weren' THAT young. I watched 3 episodes and couldn't stomach Kicker anymore, I was hoping someone would come along and punch him in the face. I hate that kid!

But that's just my opinion.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Saber Prime » Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:12 pm

Everyone hates Kicker but I actully liked him. I just hate Alexis and what's her face from Cybertron. They both had the same annoying character traits that I hate, being teenagers who act like their the other characters mothers. And the other 2 kids from Armada that started out as bullys. Makeing them good guys just completly ruined their characters.

Rad, Kicker, and the older boy on Cybertron were fine.

Carlos is OK but the way he talks is too much of a sterotype. And he actully tended to sound a little older than he should of because of his voice not his character.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Star_ling » Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:33 pm

Saber Prime wrote:Everyone hates Kicker but I actully liked him. I just hate Alexis and what's her face from Cybertron. They both had the same annoying character traits that I hate, being teenagers who act like their the other characters mothers. And the other 2 kids from Armada that started out as bullys. Makeing them good guys just completly ruined their characters.

Rad, Kicker, and the older boy on Cybertron were fine.

Carlos is OK but the way he talks is too much of a sterotype. And he actully tended to sound a little older than he should of because of his voice not his character.


I usually hate when female characters in anime care too much about the other characters. It's best explained when you see it in action, that and "taking care" of them adding to the mother thing. To me Alexis didn't seem like that, I don't remember too much about whats her face. That and the super short skirts that seem to be there just for the guys to make the dumb jokes about. Which reminds me of Kiss Players in the end. Oh Japan.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Random » Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:13 pm

Just a thought:

You reckon Sentinel Prime will stop being such a douche after what transpired in "Predacons Rising"?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:24 pm

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Random wrote:Just a thought:

You reckon Sentinel Prime will stop being such a douche after what transpired in "Predacons Rising"?



I dont see why he would.

Seems to me that he showed signs of being even more intolerant.
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