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Autobot032 wrote:PrymeStriker wrote:Autobot032 wrote:He definitely needs an episode all to himself, or a flash back with Breakdown,
A flashback episode with Breakdown. Yes, yes, yes!
'Bro said at NYCC that Knock Out would be experimenting with that Synth-En from season 1 next season. Anyone else been thinking that he'll use it on Breakdown's corpse?
I highly doubt it, for two reasons:
1.) The show runners said once a character dies, they're dead and stay dead. (They did not rule out flash backs, as evidenced by Cliffjumper's episode a few months back.)
2.) I keep hearing that Adam Baldwin quit. By choice. (I have yet to confirm that. I keep trying, but nada. People keep saying it, though.)
1 for sure is set in stone, if 2 is true, well then that ain't happenin'. Which saddens me.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
PrymeStriker wrote:Here's the twist: it's not Breakdown.
It's his body, but he has no memories of being who he was. He's just a mindless muscle drone powered by synth-en.
It's not technically reviving Breakdown.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:PrymeStriker wrote:Here's the twist: it's not Breakdown.
It's his body, but he has no memories of being who he was. He's just a mindless muscle drone powered by synth-en.
It's not technically reviving Breakdown.
So, a variation of Energon that can revive the dead, but only as a mindless brute. They did that already.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
PrymeStriker wrote:Yes. Out to make Dark Energon redundant.
PrymeStriker wrote:Or Knock Out could use it on himself.
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It'll be Dreadwing's death all over again. R.I.P, Knock Out.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:PrymeStriker wrote:Or Knock Out could use it on himself.
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It'll be Dreadwing's death all over again. R.I.P, Knock Out.
Technically it would be Skyquake's death all over again.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
I'd consider Soundwave a secondary character also. Same with Dreadwing (though, like Knock Out, he too walked the fine line between secondary and main character status... then he died).Handels-Messerschmitt wrote:I think Knock Out is as much of a main character as Soundwave is. He doesn't hang out around Megatron as much but he appears and does things throughout the entirety of the show with pretty good regularity. He isn't just their doctor, either, he actually interacts with the autobots as well. He could def do with more screentime, though.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
YRQRM0 wrote:Dreadwing however, needed MUCH more screentime. I loved him!!
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
TurboMMaster wrote:I just wonder did Airachnid die, I hope so, not because I don't like her, but because I really want to se any Fembot body reduced into scrap in any cartoon series... Also it would be hard to explain how she survived thisif she was in stasis.
So many options in next seazon... I simply can't wait.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
Handels-Messerschmitt wrote:Wanting the woman to die because she is a woman is kind of, uh...
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Not because she is a woman, but because I wanna see how creators break some of old rules. Considering that in this show humans death are at least suggested or shown indirect way, this is possible.Wanting the woman to die because she is a woman is kind of, uh...
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I think what TurboMMaster means is that, in most shows, the females almost always survive because they are females. If one didn't survive, however, that would be something new and outside the standard norm.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Transformers.Shadowman wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I think what TurboMMaster means is that, in most shows, the females almost always survive because they are females. If one didn't survive, however, that would be something new and outside the standard norm.
Now, when you say "shows" do you mean just Transformers, or shows in general? If it's the latter, I'd like to point out Gundam to you, simply as an example, because saying female survive "most shows" is a pretty big generalization.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
They already pulled the "main Autobot's friend dies to enhance his/her character development" card with Cliffjumper and Arcee.PrymeStriker wrote:Also, I've thought about this for a while. What if a friend from Smokescreen's boot camp (Maybe Mirage?) came to Earth and joined Team Prime. A few episodes later, that Autobot dies due to Smokescreen's careless actions. I think it would develop Smokescreen as both a character and a warrior.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:They already pulled the "main Autobot's friend dies to enhance his/her character development" card with Cliffjumper and Arcee.PrymeStriker wrote:Also, I've thought about this for a while. What if a friend from Smokescreen's boot camp (Maybe Mirage?) came to Earth and joined Team Prime. A few episodes later, that Autobot dies due to Smokescreen's careless actions. I think it would develop Smokescreen as both a character and a warrior.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
In other words, how about something new?Shadowman wrote:Sabrblade wrote:They already pulled the "main Autobot's friend dies to enhance his/her character development" card with Cliffjumper and Arcee.PrymeStriker wrote:Also, I've thought about this for a while. What if a friend from Smokescreen's boot camp (Maybe Mirage?) came to Earth and joined Team Prime. A few episodes later, that Autobot dies due to Smokescreen's careless actions. I think it would develop Smokescreen as both a character and a warrior.
And also Tailgate and Arcee. And also Smokescreen and Arcee for all of five minutes.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:They already pulled the "main Autobot's friend dies to enhance his/her character development" card with Cliffjumper and Arcee.PrymeStriker wrote:Also, I've thought about this for a while. What if a friend from Smokescreen's boot camp (Maybe Mirage?) came to Earth and joined Team Prime. A few episodes later, that Autobot dies due to Smokescreen's careless actions. I think it would develop Smokescreen as both a character and a warrior.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
Actually, it's a good idea. It would be sweet to se how Smokescreen is responsible for death of some team members. He could even kill a Autobot by accident, for example one of Bots died in explosions caused by Smoke. I wonder what Prime would say about it...Also, I've thought about this for a while. What if a friend from Smokescreen's boot camp (Maybe Mirage?) came to Earth and joined Team Prime. A few episodes later, that Autobot dies due to Smokescreen's careless actions. I think it would develop Smokescreen as both a character and a warrior.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:How about hey they just stop using character deaths as a means to enhance the development of other characters and just, you know, let us get to know these characters without killing them off?
Though the specifics differ, killing a character for the benefit of another character's growth is the same concept that has been done again and again in this show. It reeks of unoriginality and retread waters. There are other was to develop a character than by having the writers murder their own creations.![]()
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Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
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